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Corona and Fall Sports
Bobref replied to Hoosier Hawk's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
We also do not know what the re-infection profile is like. It is far from certain that having contracted the disease will confer immunity, or how much, or for how long. -
Corona and Fall Sports
Bobref replied to Hoosier Hawk's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Let’s assume we do have a Fall sports season, and it is scheduled to start at the usual time. 3 days before the first game, the coach is notified that one of his players has symptoms and has tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. What do you do? -
Interested to hear what some of my friends without Chicago connections thought of the first two episodes of “The Last Dance.” I was here during that time and, although I’m not a basketball fan, the Jordan phenomenon completely captivated me. I’m hoping this series will show the people who only know Jordan as a prolific scorer that his scoring was only a small part of the story. For me, the fascinating part was that a single player basically imposed his will on an entire league ... some would say, on an entire industry. I’m convinced we will never see his like again. I hope that comes through to the people who were only familiar with his stats, or who were too young to see it happening like I did.
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COVID Impact on football season
Bobref replied to CoachAbe's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Whether we will or won’t lift some restrictions and what the effect of that will be are interesting question. But the most interesting question, to me, is not what will happen, but what should happen. -
COVID Impact on football season
Bobref replied to CoachAbe's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I get to go to “senior hours.” -
COVID Impact on football season
Bobref replied to CoachAbe's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
The “flu” is actually several different strains of viruses. The annual flu shot is merely an amalgam of 3-4 different vaccines against the strains of the virus that epidemiologists predict will be most prevalent that season. But a flu shot doesn’t protect against any other strain of influenza. So, it’s relatively common for a person to get a “flu” shot, and still get the flu. It’s just a different strain than the ones covered by the vaccine. I think SARS-CoV-2 is a game changer. I think we are going to be pushed to the ethical brink by having to make a choice between the deaths we are willing to absorb in the name of keeping the economy going the way it was before vs. maximum infection control.If all we were interested in was keeping the most people healthy, there would be no large gatherings until there was a vaccine that worked, or until we had an effective, readily deliverable treatment that keeps people off ventilators and out of ICUs. As far as which way it’s going to play out, I predict the pressure to “restart” the economy — especially in an election year — will become too great. Restrictions will be relaxed. As a result, we’ll experience a secondary wave of infections and deaths, probably this Fall. There will be some restrictions re-imposed, but probably not to the extent before. So, until there is a vaccine, we’ll keep seeing infections and deaths. The numbers will depend on what restrictions we are willing to put up with to protect the vulnerable segment of the population. -
COVID Impact on football season
Bobref replied to CoachAbe's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
It is not appropriate to compare a Coronavirus vaccine to combat a virus that no one knew existed a year ago, with an influenza vaccine, which is a totally different type of virus, and which had been undergoing research on variant strains for literally decades. This article explains very nicely how, under the best of circumstances, mass production of a vaccine is 12-18 mos. away, and there are serious doubts as to how effective it might be, since there’s not adequate time to do the customary trials. https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html . -
“Ill formed?” If you mean “ill-informed,” I’d say the guy who said Ronald Reagan in 1984 was “worse than Biden” was the ill-informed one. The American people gave him 525 out of 538 electoral votes. Think Biden will do that well? Fact is Biden is basically a recycled Hubert Humphrey without the engaging personality.
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COVID Impact on football season
Bobref replied to CoachAbe's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
“If all goes OK” is a mighty big “if” where this sort of thing is concerned. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30796-0/fulltext -
Best “Front Man” of All Time
Bobref replied to Bobref's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
OK, you can’t mention David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar. Got to be one or the other. 😉 -
Best “Front Man” of All Time
Bobref replied to Bobref's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
You omitted my #2: The Lizard King! https://youtu.be/kE32pvvaDT8 -
I would have bet nothing could exceed the ineptness of the GOP, but I was wrong. To go through the year long publicity stunt that was the impeachment process, and the best the Dems could come up with is Sleepy Joe? Somehow, the American political process has mutated so that it now operates to de-select any person of substance as a viable candidate.
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Trying to find things to occupy my mind and relieve the boredom, all while sheltering in place. So, who is the greatest “front man” in rock & roll history? Share your thoughts and, if possible, maybe a YouTube clip or something. For me, call me “old school,” but it’s pretty hard to get beyond Jagger.
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Corona and Fall Sports
Bobref replied to Hoosier Hawk's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
So, the answer is to isolate the vulnerable population while everyone else leads “normal” lives? Have you tried to get into a nursing home recently? I have, and it’s next to impossible. Isolation is what they’re trying to do now. And even now while we’re sheltering in place,” you still see the tragic results when the virus gets into a nursing home. Assuming you could ethically justify it, there’s no practical way to make it work in the long term. And even if it did, what do we do about the diabetics, the people on chemotherapy, the people with auto-immune diseases like lupus or Crohn’s, the people taking anti-rejection drugs after transplants, all the people with less than robust immune systems? You must understand, when you’re talking about focusing on protecting the vulnerable population, you’re talking about upwards of 50 million people. If you can think of a practical way to protect 50 million people without restricting the other 250 million living side by side with them, let somebody know. -
Corona and Fall Sports
Bobref replied to Hoosier Hawk's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
When was the last time someone died of smallpox? Or polio? Vaccines essentially eradicated those two horrible viral diseases. The hope is a vaccine may do the same to SARS-CoV-2. And please stop comparing COVID-19 to influenza. The comparison is inapposite and dangerous. -
Corona and Fall Sports
Bobref replied to Hoosier Hawk's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I’m certainly open-minded on the subject, as we’re learning new things every day. But I cannot see any justification for allowing large gatherings of people before there’s a vaccine. And as for “Vaccines have been available for decades but people still get that illness,” I presume you’re talking about the “flu,” i.e., the many different strains of influenza viruses. The comparison is a misleading and dangerous one for many reasons, not the least of which is that SARS-CoV-2 is at least twice as contagious as the flu, and between 15 to 20 times more likely to be lethal. The acuity is even higher in the vulnerable population. “Flattening the Curve” is another way of saying we’re fighting a delaying action. Given time and the absence of restrictions and no vaccine, virtually every person in the US will be exposed to the virus. The object of the current strategy is to stretch that time frame out as long as possible, while working to develop a vaccine as quickly as possible. The sooner we can insert a vaccine into that timeline, the more people will have immunity when they are eventually exposed. -
Corona and Fall Sports
Bobref replied to Hoosier Hawk's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
What is it that makes the end of May an appropriate stopping place? Do you anticipate that we will have “flattened the curve” so that deaths will level off at a rate that is “acceptable?” What rate is that? Because this virus is not going away. Until there is a vaccine, a significant segment of the population will be at constant risk of mortal illness. The only way to keep our at-risk population safe is to keep significant restrictions in place until there is a vaccine, or at least an accepted, well-tested treatment regimen that works. Otherwise, there is the potential for our elderly population to be decimated ... as we are seeing in some nursing homes across the country, including Anderson, IN. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-04-12/nursing-homes-deaths-soar-past-2-600-in-alarming-surge -
The numbers keep lowering because (a) we’re learning more and more about the virus all the time, and (b) what we’re doing is working. As long as the virus is still here — which it unquestionably is — and there are hundreds of millions waiting to be infected — which there are — why would you consider stopping what we are doing?
