Bobref

I just shared the Hudl video with you. A little different view.

This was the last play of the game. Ruled a TD on the field, giving the Shamrocks the win. Some observations. But first the video. https://www.facebook.com/519402118/videos/241631878410858/ I know there are better videos out there than this. Anyone got links to more video? There are 2 questions here that have to be answered in order to rule properly on this very difficult play. 1. Where is the forward progress spot? But in order to rule on that, we have to know: 2. When did the receiver possess the ball? This is an airborne receiver. When an airborne player makes a catch, his forward progress is the furthest point of advancement after he possesses the ball if contacted by a defender. So, we need to determine when the receiver “possessed” the ball. He possesses the ball when he has caught it. A “catch” occurs when an airborne ball is possessed and the player first contacts the ground inbounds while maintaining control of the ball. What all this means is that in this play the receiver does complete the catch, as he is moving from the end zone toward the field of play. Therefore, the forward progress spot is the point where the ball was at the time the receiver, while holding the ball, was contacted by the defender. You decide for yourself where that was - if you think you can from the video.

No, it was not enforced correctly. They assessed the full 5 yds. for the encroachment rather than half the distance (4 yds.). There is a specific, step-by-step procedure for enforcing penalties in a way that minimizes the risk of such mistakes. They didn’t follow it. I wish more crews would.

In both instances (assuming these fouls are on the defense), the enforcement is half the distance to the goal. The enforcement takes the ball beyond the line to gain. 1st and goal for A from the B 3-1/2 yd. line.

Has the transfer portal, and their experience (so far) with Hartman, changed the thinking on this? Is it easier to get a plug & play mature QB from the transfer portal, as opposed to rolling the dice on a highly touted high school kid?

It’s the one week of the year when @temptation is with us! 😆

That’s about the right vintage.

Our quarterback is better looking than yours!

Anybody have decent video of the last play? I’m hearing a lot of people saying the catch was short of the goal line. The Hudl video is inconclusive. The wing official was in perfect position for the call, and he didn’t hesitate to go up with the TD signal.

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I was there. I guess this is a rivalry game of sorts. Winamac played like it. NJ, not so much.

J.D. Bertrand is out this Saturday. It looks like true freshman Drayk Bowen from Andrean might get the start at Mike. Even if he doesn’t, he’ll likely see quality PT.

J.D. Bertrand is out this Saturday. It looks like true freshman Bowen might get the start at Mike. Even if he doesn’t, he’ll likely see quality PT.

And why did you conclude this?

FWIW, about 2/3 of the responders on the NFHS Football Officials’ FB page said it was a touchback. SMH

The concept of a knee pad is that it spreads the impact forces out over a larger area, thus reducing the force that would otherwise be concentrated on any one particular area. That’s why knee pads do play a role in preventing, or lessening the severity of, ligament and meniscus injuries, albeit not as great a role as bracing.

If you’re talking about the block by #58 on the intercepting team, that’s a good call. The block was right at the point of attack, and the player being blocked missed the tackle.

It’s a TD. Even though the ball was not in player possession, it’s still in possession of Team A. A live ball is always in team possession. Since the ball was declared dead in B’s end zone while Team A was in possession, it’s a TD.

Also no.

No.

To clarify, there was definitely contact from behind. My problem is it had no effect on the play. Illegal block in the back is not considered a safety foul, so it is only called when it has a material effect on the outcome of the play.

Incomplete pass. That way you don’t have to concern yourself with that very iffy block in the back call that takes away the TD.

Stole this one from the NFHS Football Officials FB page: A1 has a long unchallenged run to the B end zone. Anticipating an easy TD, A1 drops the ball prior to crossing goal line. Both teams A and B leave the field thinking the play is over. Meanwhile the ball has rolled into and come to rest in the end zone. After an appropriate amount of time, BJ blows the ball dead. What’s the call?

Eagles have their work cut out for them again this week. I told you that The Pit has been a nightmare for us. They barely escaped via a last second field goal. Now they have to go to PBTS to take on a very formidable Massillon team. The Tigers didn’t even break a sweat against Elkhart last week, while the Eagles had an emotional roller coaster, come from behind, knock down drag out at Elder. Another obvious trap game for the mighty, mighty Eagles.