BTF

3 hours ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

Come on....could you imagine running onto Notre Dame Stadium's turf as a Senior at list any 1A or 2A school for your final game of football...

I know the post said 6A, but I think it would be interesting for any class.

I love Notre Dame as much as anyone, but high school championships are meant to be played inside :). Let's do semi-state in South Bend, I'm down for that. 

3 hours ago, Daniel_Bragg said:

No.  Absolutely not.  You solution to this is forget the small schools, or send a 6A Final to somewhere other than Lucas Oil?  Come on.  Let's be serious.

I second that. No point in allowing weather to be a determining factor in the state championship.

13 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Should 2100 body schools play schools of 1000 kids in tournament play? 

 

That was the #1 reason to split into 6 classes, the discrepancy of Carmel to Munster was 3k kids 

 

So, the question is what is the most realistic top end to bottom end enrollment wise that keeps the schools in competitive classes?   

 

I just did 5a into top 32 4a to show what that would look like 

thats an awful lot of kid difference from Top to Bottom 

Without running the numbers, I always felt that it should be 32 in 6A and 32 in 1A. Well, I guess that's why we run numbers. IHSAA got it right. 

3 minutes ago, foxbat said:

Need 3 to stay now.  

Interesting. 

6 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

Cathedral will be in 5A, not 4A. You can only drop one class if you don't get enough SF points to stay up. 

That makes more sense. Actually, won't they stay in 6A since they won a sectional?

4 hours ago, scarab527 said:

5A is bad, but it ain't that bad. 

The 4A vs 5A debate makes more sense this year than it did last. 5A gains East Central, but loses Snider and Mishawaka. 4A loses East Central but gains Cathedral, Mishawaka, and Chatard. You and I can agree for once.......4A might be better than 5A.  But let's not pretend that East Central + Whitland + Decatur Central + Bloomington South + Warsaw + Valpo + Merrillville = "weak". I'll look forward to Decatur Central and Merrillville knocking heads for the hardware. 

6A: North will be a war with Crown Point, Penn, Snider, Carroll, Noblesville, HSE, Fishers, and Westfield. 

5A: Warsaw knocking heads with Valpo and Merrillville. I like the Pirates and Tigers chances at making it to Lukas

4A: Northwood gets some competition with Mishawaka. Is Dwenger officially an afterthought? 

3A: Wonders if Luers has a shot at their first ever 3A championship with Chatard out of the way. 

2A: Adams Central vs Indy Lutheran for state?

1A: New blood. 

6 minutes ago, temptation said:

No clue why a guy like Phil Parker never gets discussed when HC jobs come open.  Maybe he has and I have overlooked it?

I think you asked me a similar question this time last year when it comes to 6A central Indiana football and I will reply this year with the same answer...

"Lemme see how the transfer portal shakes out this summer and get back to you..."

That being said, I'd predict the seats at Warren and Carmel are heating up...

Fair. I guess Fort Wayne is easier to predict than Indy. A player here or there may make a move, but not enough for a transfer of power shift. 

2 hours ago, temptation said:

Yeah, just a jab at Iowa.  Nothing more, nothing less.  

Hope the kid goes where he best fits.

I more less figured...........just didn't understand your wording. Slow on the uptake I guess. Iowa will always be good with the defense they put on the field, but they'll never be a playoff contender if they don't open up their offense. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Nothing to fix on defense, plenty to fix on offense. I don't know if Sullivan will take the Iowa offense to new heights, but I do know he'll make things dangerous for his high school opponents. 

Temp...........what Indy teams have a shot at going undefeated? Who were the young teams last year? I'm hearing Warren Central might be legit, but we heard that last year too. 

33 minutes ago, CoachMack219 said:

Almost fell outta my work chair reading this. 😂 and @BTF, I think (why I'm laughing), ole Temp is just poking some fun at the Hawkeyes and the fact that they operate in 13 personnel and hand the ball off like 40 times a game. So how do you even say to a kid, "hey come play QB for us! It'll be fun!" with a straight face? Idk Temp too well, but I think that's what he was implying (at least that's how I took it and enjoyed it). Lol

I get that Iowa's offense is and always has been stale. I think it was his wording that through me off. At the end of the day, Carroll should be a pretty good team with Sullivan at the helm. Sure, the committed to a program that is least known for their QB's out of all the Big Ten programs, but three others thought he was good enough to extend an offer. And for the record, I'll say it again, I know nothing about what Carroll return other than he and Dinan. They do seem to be in a reloading phase. The student enrollment  continues to grow and their facilities make Snider and PFW look like third world countries. 

18 hours ago, temptation said:

Not wanting to hijack the thread, nor dump on the kid but what is Iowa’s recruiting pitch when they have a QB on campus, lol?

Elaborate, not sure I understand. If it makes you feel any better, Sullivan has offers from four Big Ten programs. 

14 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Minus the leading tackler in Snider history… Look, I think the Panther defense will be really good if the defensive line plays well, but you don’t replace a Rohrbacher with just anyone. I think Carroll will be improved in 2024 and will put up points. My big question for Snider is offense. Don’t see how it will be better this year. If that is the case, the defense will have to be even better than last year

Agree. That kid had as much impact on the defense than any kid I've ever seen. That being said, the defense returns enough talented kids to make the overall team dangerous. I also agree that the season will come down to whether or not they can put an offense together. An average to slightly above average Snider offense, coupled with that defense, would make Snider a contender out of the north. If they can put together a Top Ten Snider offense (a long shot in my opinion), I would go as far as saying that Snider would be the favorite out of the north. Strong words for a 5A enrollment team when programs like HSE, Fishers, Noblesville, Crown Point, Westfield, Penn, and Carroll are involved. But that's how much I like the defense going into 2024. 

I'll roll with over, under, over. 

I'm surprised Greater isn't on this list. 

3 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

A pet peeve of mine, people complaining about the cost of admission for HS sports. Even at 10 bucks for a regional game, I could drive within an hour of my compound in northern Jackson County and for the grand sum of 10 bucks I can be entertained for a couple of hours by a quality athletic event. Think big picture, you’re a wrestling, swimming, tennis, golf, baseball, …….. fan, the same applies. What’s it going to cost you to go to an IU game? Colts, Pacers, Indians, …….? And your admission is going back to the student athletes. Yes I understand at the regional level and beyond the money goes to the IHSAA, c’mon man. 

I second that. Ten dollars to support your local athletic department is too much, but $120.00 is perfectly ok to support a bunch of guys you don't know from all over the United States who are highly over priced for the value they bring to the world. But that's just me. 

39 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Yeah, there are only 49 examples to choose from. And that’s just using high schools as templates. 

Does it have to be computer generated? I think you put into the hands of humans. A committee from different areas of the state. If a computer is the determining factor, you'll no longer see good teams taking a knee and the end of the first half. 

I agree with the prior two posts. Go external, but I know nothing about the talent that's already on staff. Penn is a blueblood and arguably the most successful program in the State of Indiana. There are good coaches out there with championship backgrounds who would take this position. 

Congrats to Yoeman on a tremendous run. Wins are great, and he had plenty of them. But it sounds like he was successful in defeat as well. Penn has been blessed for decades.

Good stuff. I hope it passes. Does the new proposal call for Sagarin to determine seeding? I saw that the old one did. 

14 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Don’t think the defense will be as strong next year, but they will be good. 

For the record, they return 3 of their top 4 tacklers, and 20 of their 27 interceptions. They have two DB's with D1 offers. Should be pretty solid on that side of the ball. That defense only allowed two touchdowns in the 2023 post season, both at the hands of Mishawaka. 

2 hours ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

Looking at your upcoming schedules what teams this year do you think have a good chance of going 9-0 this year.

Penn's schedule has been released, and after week 2 the schedule takes a tragic jump off the cliff. I expect Penn to be 9-0 at the end of the Regular season... With a battle tested Ft. Wayne Carroll in their sectional, Penn's season ends 9-1 or 10-1 this year. 

Carroll's off to a good start with Iowa QB commit Jimmy Sullivan. Don't know much about them other than that. Their program seems to be in a reloading phase. I wouldn't consider Carroll a lock against Penn. The Chargers were good last year with good outings against Hamilton Southeastern, Warren Central, and Snider. Then got wasted by Warsaw in the post season. Gotta hand it to Bart ball though, Snider almost suffered a similar fate in Mishawaka. Long story short.........Penn can beat Carroll. 

I don't see any SAC teams going undefeated, schedules are brutal.

Was hoping a poster or two would come forth stating that they are vegan. Need some action in the off season. 

14 hours ago, psaboy said:

Yea, I know it is incomplete, but if the games are set/inked they should be on schedule. I thought I saw game on schedule last month, just wondering if contract got cancelled?? That happens from time to time. 

Homestead, Dwenger, and Northrop are all annual games and none of those are mentioned. I'm not sure where where and how John Harrell gets his information. I know Snider and EN have a pretty good relationship. Barring a catastrophic event, I don't see that game being canceled. I'm 99.275% sure Snider will be hosting them in Week 2. 

6 hours ago, psaboy said:

Early start to 2024 thread, but noticed on John Harrell's site that East Noble is off Snider's schedule. Anyone know what happened and who may replace them?

The schedule looks incomplete. Snider inked East Noble for at least 4 years. 

10 hours ago, temptation said:

Wins?

Yes. Schedule looks pretty brutal. Not sure who they return next year in the way of talent, but coaching losses could make a significant impact. 

Over/under 7.5