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" Effective in 2026, tooth and mouth protectors a) shall not include any attachment(s) that do not serve a purpose and function in protecting the teeth or mouth, and b) shall not include anything that is a health or risk issue and could pose danger to themselves or other players." Does this mean those second dangling mouthpieces are illegal, or is this referring to something different?
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Here is a stat for the haters…
gopher2 replied to temptation's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
As a resident of HSE district there's nowhere to put a new HS where the student population currently lives. While the city of Fishers is growing, Fishers HS area is totally landlocked by Noblesville, Carmel, Marion County, and HSE HS to the east. HSE has room to grow north and east from the Exit 210 area but it's all agricultural past 146th St. There is no infrastructure for anything large scale at this time, but I'm sure that in 20 years it will probably grow north to SR38. The number of students who attend HSE HS that live north of I-69 is a very small percentage. Many families who live in the northern part of the district send their kids to other school corporations because of proximity My house is the farthest in the school corporation (NE part of the district in Wayne Twp). There are 6 other high schools our kids can get to sooner in the morning than HSE: Noblesville, Hamilton Heights, Elwood, Frankton, Lapel, Pendleton, possibly Mt. Vernon. There's a lot of land available for a school further north (this was looked at briefly in the early 2000s when Fishers HS was built) but not the infrastructure nor number of students necessary to make it work. -
Game I was at during week 9 saw the white hat flag K 15 yards before the second half kickoff for not being on the field prior to the 3 min. warmup period for the second half. They showed up around 2:45. Rule 9-8-1.g.3 says "Be on the field following the conclusion of the halftime intermission or be ready to start the second half at the conclusion of the mandatory warm-up period." How was this correctly enforced if the team was ready to go at the start of the second half?
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Offense already has 5 linemen (50-79) in the game on the LOS in their traditional positions. A 6th player, A6, (50-79) lines up as a split end and is the last man on the LOS. On the snap A6 goes backwards 3 steps. If the QB throws backwards to A6, and A6's position is behind the QB, then this is an allowable pass right? My thinking is that none of the forward pass requirements have to be met. Same concept as handing the ball off to your 300 pound DL playing fullback on the goal line, right?
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10 yds, thanks
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3rd and 40. The offensive line is getting whooped. A is playing B with an odd front, nose over C. A's QB lines up at 4 yards then shifts back to 7 yards prior to the snap. On the snap B immediately hits the center/snapper while A's QB punts the ball. Is this roughing the snapper and automatic first down?
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thanks everyone
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Thanks Irishman. So therein is my question regarding the case when R is hit early. Is it a rekick after a 5 yard penalty or would R get the ball at the spot of the foul? I assume rekick, just looking for certainty.
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Bobref, I understand everything you wrote and have read the rule book. My question is the source of the material I quoted. I don't see that in the book, maybe I'm not interpreting something correctly. If you can expound, that'd be great. Here's my situation I want to be clear on. K1 onside kicks (slowly)from the 40. R1 runs forward and makes an attempt to recover the kick at K's 47 yard line. Assuming that no R initiates a block on any K player, K2 hits R1 before R1 contacts the ball and pushes R backwards to R's 48 yard line and K recovers the ball at A) K's 49 yard line B)R's 49 yard line. What's the call regarding any penalty or possession? My understanding of your remark is that there is either a penalty involved or R is awarded the ball somewhere. Thanks When in doubt Gopher2
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Anyone else getting emails from ADs that the required NFHS coursework (Heat illness, tackling, cardiac arrest, etc.) they did in May no longer qualifies or is it just me? The email in May said my current certifications would expire June 10, 2022, so I did them in May. Now I just got notified that I have to redo all of them because the IHSAA changed the requirements while many of us had already taken care of this? Leaving a bad taste in my mouth right now.
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Assistant Coach Jason McCalley, wife Kendra, and daughter Remi suffered the loss of their infant son and brother, Rowan, Sunday after a 3 month battle with heart issues. A Gofundme has been started to support the family through their medical bills and funeral services. https://www.gofundme.com/f/rowan-mccalley?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=p_cf share-flow-1&fbclid=IwAR2MrDNN_Q9cNiLQtg22YnXel_B9KihgR2v-5wfUealw7BI42MwPFA7N9CU Please pray for the McCalleys during their time of morning. #rowanstrong
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New Sectional Assignments
gopher2 replied to Coach Harvey's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I mostly agree with Coach May regarding the geography. But where I think the IHSAA could have fixed the mess actually starts in the northwest. Sectional 33 in the northwest, shouldn't have 7 teams If the sectional is going east to include Bremen and LaVille from Marshall County, why shouldn't it include Winamac from Pulaski Co., approximately the same distance, possibly closer. It should be 8 teams. It would seem that the 7 team sectional is most justified by the widest sectional area, which would be #39 as it has been traditionally. Pioneer now being placed back in 1A puts #34 at 7 teams-Winamac, so move Wabash to #34 and bump Bluffton from #36 to #35. You can now move Winchester to #36 in the north and now there are 31 teams in the north (with the bye in #34), 31 in the south. My south looks like Coach May's but with proposing Winchester going north, put a bye in either #37 or #38. Not sure how to do any better with the other teams. Brown County doesn't improve geographically by going to #37 or #38 and making #40 a 7 team sectional. With diesel at $5+ a gallon, let's not place a bigger burden on school transportation and athletic budgets. Elbridge Gerry wouldn't have been prouder with #39 as it now looks. -
Yep, first down for whoever ends up with it. We blocked a punt years ago and slow DL tried to scoop and score except he got hawked and punting team recovered for a 30 yard loss and they got the first down. And it doesn't matter what down it was if there was a change of possession.
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Thanks everyone.
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I looked through the threads and couldn't find this question being asked previously. I apologize if I missed it. Fourth and goal. A-12 fumbles ball on the B two yard line into end zone. A-55 recovers in end zone. TD awarded. Correct or not. For some reason I thought I remembered the fourth down recovery rule being instituted in the 90s to prevent the offense from intentionally benefitting from this play, but that was a while back. Thanks.
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Picking up on Irishman's comment, I grew up in the NLC. Warsaw (3A) could have gone 10-0 but playing all 2A schools kept them from ever getting to the playoffs in that old system. When they did try to play a 3A school it seemed like it was FW Snider or Penn and that never went well for them
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That was a good game. Lapel's offense just seemed to struggle with penalties and D/D. THree times inside the 20 and no pts. Tipton had their running game going and there wasn't any answer for the short pass game. Lapel kicked squibbed their kickoffs a llot too, must not have wanted to kick deep. That gave Tipton the ball near midfield a lot. On to somewhere else next week.
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Yeah, but I'm not sure my car can make it to those without overheating.
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Pork on a stick it is. I've heard there's a good pizza place too. Got my camp chair packed. Hope my bladder can make it.
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39 other games I can go to. Will this one be good or should I stay around Indy and see a 5A/6A game
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They really slowed down the offense of powerhouse Eastbrook. If I come watch this game, can Lapel compete with them or will this be a blowout and I should go elsewhere?
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So it seems as there is a grey area concerning the cutoff from when a legal onside kick would turn illegal. I From your shared video, what constitutes the difference between kick #2 (legal) when I'm estimating the ball rebounds to 4 feet after the first hop and kick #3 (illegal) when the ball rebounds to 8 feet. Is there a height off of the first bounce that officials would consider and say "that's illegal" vs "that's legal"? I totally understand the safety issue that a big hop would create just looking for clearer picture.
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Cancelling playoff Games due to Covid..
gopher2 replied to Formersaint's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
yep. Opponent moves on to next week's game. As the tournament progresses, if a winning team must forfeit from a prior week, the loser of the previous matchup does not replace it. Once you're done, you're done. -
IHSAA return to play amendment
gopher2 replied to Purdue Pete's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
This issue happened at our school, but here's how the rule is enforced inequitably (is that the right word)? So kids get caught in contact tracing are sent home for 14 days. Our school said if you get sent home at 10 o'clock on Friday, then you come back at 10 o'clock on Friday in 2 weeks. Ok, no problem. But here's where this rule fails miserably if it's for athlete protection. Quarantine started Friday at 10 am, so quarantined football players are out that night's game, next week's and the next week's before they can get enough practices in to play. However, the tennis team has 6 matches over the same period: County tournament that Friday afternoon, following Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and following Tuesday and Friday. Football would miss 8 practices and 3 competitions, so they have to go to 4 practices before they can compete. Tennis has more meets scheduled and fewer practices (5 and they cancelled one...see where this going), so tennis player actually get's the benefit of missing fewer actual practices and tennis coach knows the rules so that by cancelling 1 practice, he keeps the number of practices missed by that player to 4 so he is immediately eligible to play on the Friday afternoon he returns, while a football player that missed the exact same number of quarantined days is not eligible for another week because his team had 8 practices and he needs 4 to become "eligible". In no way am I faulting the tennis coach, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. -
How are conferences deciding who plays in week 9 conference championships and other pairings if multiple teams miss games with Covid? Do you just go on W/L %age? Just curious. How would you make pairings for teams A 7-1 record, B 6-1 record and C 6-0. Team A lost to D but beat B. B lost to A and missed 1 game. C beat both A and B and missed 2 games. Or if 2 teams in same division finish 5-1 and didn't play each other. Who goes to the championship?
