Lysander

Roncalli is an entirely different beast than they were early in the season.

Weird….

MaxPreps has that score reversed.

I grew up nearby and much prefer the chicken at the Brau Haus.

Unless HH spoils the show for Roncalli, I’m giving odds that the State Championship game will feature the two teams that opened the season against one another: Dwenger v Roncalli.

Agreed. Chatard and Roncalli are effectively .500 against each other over the entirety of their history. Makes it hard to get the needed points to stay up if they are always paired in the same 4A Sectional. To be clear, I don’t want Chatard to be in 3A and I’ve said as much for years…..nobody does including the IHSAA. It’s part of the reason we have a success factor at all…..but the IHSAA just can’t resist putting all the Catholics in the same Sectional whenever and wherever possible. Btw, it’s entirely possible Cathedral, Chatard and Roncalli ALL end up in the same 4A Sectional 3 years from now if Cathedral can’t get past New Pal next year.

Yes…..unfortunately. They only earned 1 point last year and none this year.

Well….you called it. Yep. Congrats…..total domination. Good luck the rest of the season.

Yes.

Hard to say but I doubt it. He completely tore the ACL back in the 1st game against Brebeuf (I believe) so he’s played a lot of ball since then. With that, even with inconsistent play, as a team, they’ve proven talented enough to later make up for it - with the exception of Cincy Elder who was just that good. I just don’t think they can afford to be inconsistent against this much improved late season Roncalli team who will make them pay for it.

I can’t speak to Mississinewa but, by all appearances, Sectional and Regional look like speed bumps for Gibson Southern….admittedly, Semi State could be interesting for them. As in most years, I’m definitely favoring the South to win it all.

On average, I think Roncalli has been playing playing better ball than Chatard for the last several weeks…..they definitely appear to be more consistent. Chatard seems to be playing to the level of the competition as often as not recently (admittedly, I think Chatard was VERY guilty of looking towards Roncalli during the Brebeuf game last Friday). Both MaxPreps and Sags (although I REALLY have some question about Sags this season) have this as #1 v #2 in 4A much like the Chatard/New Pal Regional last year (yes, I know many favor HH but it appeared they had a lot more difficulty v. an average Reitz team last week than I would have anticipated….I’m just not as high on them as I was). Whatever happens on Friday, it DEFINITELY won’t look like the 31-10 game Chatard won in Week 2.

Well…..he managed to lose to Brebeuf. That’s quite an accomplishment.

I was thinking exactly the same about Noblesville under Sharpe. I know many seemed to hate it from the day he came on board and I remember some opposing fans making fun of it but Noblesville was legitimately competing more closely in games…despite the final W/L. Couldn’t agree more.

Ok, I’ll beat this drum again. It’s absurd that one of the quite likely two best teams in 3A will be turning in their equipment on the second week of playoffs instead of potentially meeting in Lucas Oil after Thanksgiving. I get the issues surrounding state-wide seeding but at least seed the top 2-4 teams in the Sectionals.

Me too. We are simpatico......just take the damn field goal against Cathedral....AND play ALL your starters the whole game. That's my short run take. That said, I've known Coach Rob Doyle for almost 20 years (in and out of his life as a prominent attorney....and my kid's coach as well) and Chatard President Bill Sahm in his prior business life (who's word was PURE GOLD) over the 30 years I've had his acquaintance. I'll defer to either of these gentlemen any day of the week as regards their decision....even to lose a game. They are different dudes than most anybody else I've dealt with in my business life....and I've dealt with both. Maybe there are other people out there who act as honorably but Doyle and Sahm operate on a different level. They are teaching life lessons....sometimes.....even to parents. In any event, frickin' hated to see Cathedral pull out the win. Sorry for being a bit preachy....last thing anybody needs to pay any attention to me about.

Firstly (if that’s a word), I’m generally totally on board with you….but, hey….nobody can know everything about everything. In any event, Elder returned the favor Friday having lost to Chatard 2 years ago 34-7. Well…Elder being THE NO. 1 ranked HS team in the ENTIRETY of the State of Ohio just punched back. I seem to recall the Elder Coach almost apologizing to Chatard for their submission some 2 years ago. I’ll just simply ask just who in 1A through 6A in Indiana has played a higher nationally ranked out of state HS this year….outside of actual 3A sized Chatard? Lest anyone forget, there are roughly 350 MALES 9-12 grade at Chatard versus Elder at 850 MALES……throughout Cincinnati. Where I might disagree is that this is somehow a “down” year for Chatard. It’s the almost the exact team that took New Pal to OT last year….just a year older (admittedly with some injuries)

Definitely “wife release”. I’m fairly certain Luers has yet to win the 3A State Championship. That said, the 2012 Luers team beat Ritter in the State Championship. The same Ritter team that had handily beat Chatard who won 3A that year. In turn, Chatard had previously beaten Cathedral who later won 4A that year.

Yes, you are correct. Chatard, unfortunately, seems to have repeatedly ran into some very strong New Pal (2013 and 2024)) and Roncalli (2014 and 2021) teams that sent them back down to 3A. 3 of those teams later winning State, I believe. There is only one team from 3A so far that has managed to also win 4A and that team is Evansville Memorial. Although I can’t speak knowledgeably about 1A and 2A teams, the only other “bumped” teams I am aware of that have won the class above their “home” class are Cathedral and New Pal (4A teams that have won 5A). The ONLY team, so far, that has managed to successfully win its way up 2 classes is Cathedral.

New Palestine: 50% Indianapolis Cathedral: 35% Merrillville: 5% Lafayette Jeff: 5% The Field: 5% I admit that Bloomington South isn't quite the paper tiger they usually are but the South runs through either New Pal or Cathedral....full stop. Once again, I expect a 4A team to roll through 5A.

It's hard for me to imagine that the winner of Sectional 32 isn't the ultimate State Champion. Per @foxbat's moniker this is the new "Sectional of Death". One note....Evansville Memorial has, unfortunately, never seen Chatard as a particular impediment in 3A...they are also the only 3A team who has also won 4A so far. All that said, I respect and admire both the EM and GS programs.

The Warden has granted me computer privileges for the moment….so long as I’m on good behavior. As always, it's a day-to-day thing. I'm aspiring to work release at some point.

Thank you. Well, strikes me that there’s a fair distance between Mooresville and any prospective Chatard/HH game although it seems like these two teams are in an eternal cycle of playing each other in October/November…whether in 3A or 4A. That said, does ANY other team, regardless of class, have 2 SEC level players on their roster? That’s some amazing talent that HH has. I’m reluctant to speculate any further than Mooresville….let alone versus a Roncalli team that’s always formidable and appears to be much improved since Week 2. The Rebels (errrr….meh….”Royals”) are easily, in my opinion, one of the Top 4-5 teams in 4A. Chatard, as pointed out above, has some injury issues. I will be honest in that when Chatard and New Pal played their OT game last year I considered them to be somewhat reflective of one another (again…my opinion). Not so much reflective as to where each other’s strength and weaknesses lay but rather reflective in that both teams were, frankly, very young in terms of where much of their strengths came from…primarily Juniors and Sophs last year. I will admit, this is a very good Chatard team which should have won the Cathedral game (btw, I called BS when everyone was citing Cathedral as “down’ some weeks back) but it remains to be seen how things play out.

Should be a real test for Chatard this weekend by closing out with Elder who, last I looked, was the No. 1 ranked team in Ohio (per MaxPreps).

Paper tiger.