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Everything posted by ShakeDownTheThunder

  1. I think you have a drastic misunderstanding of the current NCAA football recruiting landscape. If a kid is having to DM D1 coaches with his highlight tape, chances are he will not be playing D1 football. ZERO D1 coaches are scrolling through the hundreds of Twitter DMs they get, looking for some “diamond in the rough”. If the coach doesn’t know your name before you send the DM, odds are he won’t after. In regards to recruiting sites, @oldtimeqb hit the nail on the head. These recruiting sites are to HSFB, what the travel and prospect teams have been to HS baseball for a while (MONEY TALKS). The overwhelming majority of the “recruiters” on these sites have zero to an absolute minimal level of experience within college football, no coach at any level is looking at any of these rankings. NCAA programs, especially D1 programs, have a plethora of recruiters assigned to every corner of the country that meet with HSFB players and coaches daily. Any NCAA FB coach will trust the guys on their staff a million times over before ever looking at some recruiting site. The days of simply playing for your HSFB during the fall, and expecting big time college offers are long gone, as much as it sucks. It is a year round commitment of going to camps, showcases, and (in regards to skill position players) the national 7-on-7 tournaments. The kids you listed are all really good ball players that will have great HSFB careers, but realistically, 2-3 will actually get D1 offers (FCS/FBS). Geography doesn’t help much as Southern Indiana football, despite the awesome atmosphere on Friday nights, isn’t a hot bed for D1 talent. Realistically, most of the kids you listed will get D2, D3, or NAIA offers and have the opportunity to receive a good education, while continuing to play football.
  2. Haven't been on here in a while, so here are my thoughts on a couple things: It's almost impossible to compare GS and Memorial. Historically, Memorial is a program with almost 100 years of football history, while GS wasn't really relevant until Hart came to Ft. Branch. The Hurley vs Hart series has been good, with really only 2 games being over before half. The 2012 game was great, with Scheller diving into the pylon in OT. The 2013 matchup over at Harrison was a good game. The 2016 game was competitive, there will always be the controversy with Sellers out at QB. The 2017 matchup might've been the most anticipated of the series, and it didn't disappoint. The 2018 and 2014 matchups were very similar, one team was just head and shoulders better, GS was loaded in 2014 and probably Memorial's best team ever in 2018. The argument about Memorial's "sub-par teams" is irrelevant, the 3 times GS won they had the better ball club, and the 3 times Memorial won we had the better ball club. Titan32 was right about GS giving us our closest games over that 2 year stretch in 2016 and 2017, aside from the regional loss in Spin City in 2016. Now, in regards to this year: 1. GS was really GOOD, probably the best team from SW Indiana since the 2018 Memorial team. 2. The transitive property argument holds no weight in most sports, let alone when you're talking about 16-18 year old kids. 3.CalPreps is not accurate. Examples: (2018 Memorial vs Chatard) CalPreps had Chatard favored, and we all know how that one turned out. (2017 Memorial vs Lawrenceburg) CalPreps had Lawrenceburg favored. Final score 56-35. 4. "Memorial would have been just another bug on the windshield this season." Strong statement to make about a program that was a half way from their 6th trip to LOS in 14 years. 5. Hypothetically, if this matchup did happen, I think GS wins by a 7-10 points. Now before every GS poster on here comes for my head, hear me out. Memorial would've matched up with GS pretty well. Memorial's O-Line was big and physical in the trenches, paired against GS's weakest defensive position group, could've allowed some space for Brodie and Tyler to get into the second level. GS had some undersized DBs, while Memorial had some bigger WRs. Memorial scored on some big plays both offensively and on special teams, GS was prone to give up some big plays. GS offensive did have some promising drives stall out against better teams, if Memorial defense forces a couple stops then we've got a ball game. 6. Alas, we didn't get to see this game. The Titans were a really good football team all year long, and in the tournament they beat whoever was put in front of them, including one of the better State Finals games I've seen, on their way to blue medals and shiny rings. While the Tigers fell 2TDs short to the best team in 4A and another trip to LOS. 7. Lastly, the murmurs around the Titans' State Title run with Chatard and Memorial being up in 4A are pointless. GS was great all year and could've beat any team in 1A-4A and the majority of teams in 5A and 6A. Though, the possibility of more of these matchups in the near future is dim, the seven year run was fun to watch and highly anticipated by both fan bases every year. The series isn't over, just taking a brief hiatus. Johnson is one of the better football minds in the state, might be unrivaled south of Indy. I will say, theoretically, with USI going D1 and the possibility of a football program within the next decade, John Mark Hall may have to make a trip over to Lincoln Ave for a possible DC or even HC position. Last thing, will Peyton Guerzini ever graduate, feels like the kid has been a stud at Castle forever. He's like the Brad Davison of the SIAC.
  3. I think Allen wins this award running away, as much as people want to say it is about a player’s senior year, it’s just as much about their career body of work. Look at Bell and Kiser in 2018, Bell was hands down the most talented player in the state, but Kiser’s career body of work was more impressive. As talented as Allen is (top 20 QB prospect in the country) and as good as he was this past weekend, I don’t think he is top 3 talent wise in the state (Goodwin, McCullough, Curry). But Allen has had the best statistical QB career in the history of the state, capped off by a big win on Friday, he wins this award and I don’t think it’s close.
  4. Isn’t in 32, but doesn’t BHSS have the McCullough kid? Shocked they aren’t favored.
  5. Personally, that’s not what I had gotten from the initial post, I don’t think anybody has a problem with the kids at all and I hope they walk out of LOS with blue medals around their necks. I’ve seen the accomplishments and off-season regiments of the youth program bolstered about on this forum since Hart arrived in Fort Branch, just from the posts on here I think it’s evident that all of these kids have put in a tremendous amount of work and deserve the success they are experiencing. The GS program has essentially been built in the last decade because of the kids buying in and putting in the necessary work at the youth levels and combining that with the support of the community has built one of the powerhouse programs in this corner of the state. I think the problem that some people have around the area are the murmurs about the involvement that a future Purdue superfan (don’t know the validity of these rumors, just the feeling that I’ve gotten from a number of people that I’ve talked to) has had in some of these cases and maybe a couple other instances that fell through. Again not taking anything away from these kids at all hope they continue this momentum all the way to LOS.
  6. I may be wrong here, but it seems like year in year out there always seems at least one game (2A-4A) that a team from around the Southwestern Area plays a team from over near the Ohio Border, whether it’s the EIAC vs PAC or EIAC vs SIAC. And it seems that the Southwestern areas teams usually win these games, so is there any real reason for this? Like just from a higher number of quality athletes from the area around the Pocket City, because the top athletes over in the EIAC area are absolute studs (Parris, Yoon, I remember EC having some dudes on that State Championship team) , or does it have to do with more with the style of play in the two areas (Schemes, Coaching and such)? Just curious.
  7. Am I the only one that understands what NO PARTICULAR ORDER means?
  8. Is the argument against private schools based on the caliber of students enrolled, or is it financially based?
  9. I don’t think it is as much class size, as it is where your school is located. There are definitely certain areas of the state that are more highly recruited than other areas. JMO
  10. Still can’t wrap my head around the fact that not a single player on EM has a college offer, a school of 650 students winning a state title a class up and not a single player is good enough to play at the next level? It is mind-boggling to me that college coaches do not think any of these kids are good enough to play for their programs.
  11. The only reason EM didn’t practice at LOS the past two years is because they had played there before. I know that at least two teams had played there as 8th graders. If EN hadn’t been fortunate enough to have that experience, then the practice would be extremely beneficial, especially to calm as many nerves before game time on Saturday, as possible.
  12. I’m shocked that everyone seems to think that this game will be a blow out. I’m not trying to take anything away from either team, but the games on Thanksgiving Weekend always seem to be close no matter how much “better” one team is than the other. I think HH matches up really well with the Trojans, run-heavy and a great defense should mean low scoring. I think the Pats have a chance at the end, but fall just short. Should be a great atmosphere and outstanding game. Trojans 21 Pats 17
  13. I think, personally, this will be the biggest factor in the game. Not saying that EN hasn’t played in big games, but playing in LOS under these circumstances is an entirely different animal. I believe experience will be Memorial’s biggest strength, as they have played on Thanksgiving weekend the last 2 years. The first quarter of the game will be huge. Can Memorial capitalize on experience early, or will EN come out ready to play and we have a great 4 quarter game?
  14. I honestly can’t say I expected anything different from a Danville fan. The exact same thing happened in 2017, they had just beat Chatard and hopped on the GID jumping to outlandish claims. The SOS argument is pointless in HS football, only thing that I care about is the game tomorrow, which the Pats roll 42-14.
  15. I don’t think Woods will either, because he won’t have a chance. The game will be over before half, the Pats roll 42-14.
  16. If Memorial gets back to LOS, I think that it gives them a big advantage having played there the last two years. These are 16-18 year old kids, big games at high school stadiums are one thing, but playing at LOS under those circumstances is an entirely different animal if you haven’t ever experienced it before. JMO
  17. Against 3 Memorial teams with a record of 11-22. Congrats.
  18. They are considered a “Dark Horse”, but have the best player in SW IN and a group of seniors that have played more HS games than almost anyone else in the state. Memorial’s senior class have played in multiple BIG TIME games over the last two years, and always seem to play their best in the tournament. I don’t understand the consistent “over-looking” that teams from SW IN continue to get, despite having 4 teams play in the state finals over that last 3 years.
  19. Never understood why GS doesn’t play more kids both ways, especially skilled position players.
  20. Castle by at least 4 TDs MD by 2 TD North by a TD GOTW- Central and Memorial- Central is a VERY good football team with a lot of weapons that will be a tough out in the tournament, but I just think Memorial is due for a big game after three straight sub-par weeks. Tigers 28-17
  21. Jack Jewell win percentage-65.65% John Hurley win percentage-62.5% Jewell’s win percentage was so high because of the level of competition they played every year. Jewell and Hart are the only 2 coaches in GS history with winning records. 2012-2015 are over and you can continue to argue about how good those teams were, but they failed to make it to LOS in the middle of Memorial going 4/11 years... thanks senior... new material would be awesome.
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