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1 hour ago, Staxawax said:

I’ve watched Carmel the last 4 games. Their defense is dominating. Big, strong, fast. Sparty will be put to sleep.

I agree that Carmel will be in the State Finals which I'm thrilled with since my son is a senior, but my pick from the south is Ben Davis.  Name a team playing better than them right now?  

1 hour ago, vicvinegar said:

But the HCC didn't? 🤔 So is your argument that since Carmel beat HSE and Westfield, while CG beat FC that proves that the MIC is dominant over the HCC? We just completely ignore regular season matchups? That's convenient! 

Champions aren’t crowned in the regular season...

1 hour ago, Temptation said:

Anybody who uses the great JAY GRAVES in their citation loses any credibility they had.

I can show you my 6A bracket if you’d like.    Anyone with a pulse had four MIC teams remaining at this point, they just had a different HCC team still alive.

Not predicting it to happen by any means but does the narrative change it all if Zionsville beats Ben Davis Friday night?

HCC had potential for 4 sectional champions - 2 of those sectionals had MIC teams residing in them.  Head-to-head in the tournament in regards to teams surviving the sectional, the MIC is 2-0 and the combined score was 84-21.  

Zionsville will have their hands full against a Ben Davis team playing as well as they have been in the last 2 years.  I believe I called for BD Vs Carmel in the 6A title game.  I'll stick with my prediction.

No matter what is said at this point, the fact is the HCC faded in this tournament and once again, the MIC shows they are still the conference to beat in the tournament.

This topic makes me laugh...

This isn’t meant to be funny or start a bad discussion, but will 2019 go down as the biggest tournament disappointment for the HCC?

1 minute ago, BDGiant93 said:

Heck, I'm on record as to thinking BD was practically done after week four's loss to Center Grove. I've never seen a Ben Davis team resurrect itself in quite this way. They were going nowhere fast, but Coach Simmons has done a tremendous job along with his staff. Those kids believe in him, and he believes in them.

I obviously follow them being a MIC supporter, but don’t follow them as much as I’d like being up in Greyhound territory.  That said, @BDGiant93, you have to like your odds for this to continue the run to LOS.

47 minutes ago, MikeTyson15 said:

I'll take Merrillville, Carmel, Ben Davis, and Warren Central 

I’ll second that minus Warren.  Boy though, who would’ve thought BD Vs WC is a semi-state possibility at the beginning of the season.

I hate to say I told you so...

The MIC continues their dominance.  Sorry folks, you want the MIC to step aside, you can’t fade in the playoffs.

7 minutes ago, Coach P said:

Carmel may not win their sectional......... Sagarine has this game almost even.  Fishers was a 3 point favorite last week against the rocks............

I think Carmel matches up better than Fishers, but I’ll give you this one.  Really wouldn’t be a surprise to see Westfield win, they’re very good.  The Hounds though have started to hit their stride and I’d say they will be a tough out.

Intriguing matchups here.  

I’ll take Merrillville, Penn, Carroll, Carmel, Brownsburg, BD, WC, CG

5 hours ago, Arrow95 said:

Is it safe to say 5A is better than 6A? 

5A #3 Cathedral over 6A #14 Center Grove 14-9

 5A #1 New Palestine over 6A #14 Center Grove 28-9

5A #2 Valpo over 6A #4 Merrilville 29-28

 

6A- The MIC still controls the south unless Brownsburg still has some magic left. 

The north is just as wide open. Will Carmel's SOS push them to another state finals or will the  Merrilville / Homestead winner beat them?

 

With so much parity I am hoping for two non-traditional tough football programs make it to state. North-Homestead/Merrilville, Warsaw and South-anyone but MIC.

I would agree that there is  VERY strong possibility that the 5A champion this year is best in the state.  
 

6A is stronger as a class and most likely always will be, but the top 3 are no joke in 5A.

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

Carmel is peaking at the right time. I was worried about a sectional final matchup with Fishers but they get Westfield instead. Brownsburg likely going to have to pick off Warren and CG in consecutive weeks.

@Temptation want to hedge?

That’s assuming they get past BD

13 minutes ago, MICFan34 said:

But I thought the MIC was on a doomsday spiral and the HCC was on the rise lol? All jokes aside, 6A is even more WIDE open than anticipated. 1-8 Noblesville took 9-0 Homestead to the wire and should have won honestly. 

Does Warsaw, Merrillville, Westfield, or Homestead have enough fire power to upset Carmel?

Is there even a big-time favorite to choose from out of the South? 

Speaking of Noblesville, I think this answers our question about Homestead getting into the finals.

4 minutes ago, Warren05 said:

Other than Pike the only other MIC teams to lose lost to another MIC team. BD will have its hands full next week but if they win it will prob be an all MIC final 4 in the south half of the bracket

BD will roll Southport next week.  Also, impossible to have an all MIC final four as it’s an HCC Championship game in sectional 5.

Ben Davis 50-0 over Perry at HT

Center Grove 24-0 over CE at Half

Carmel 21-0 over HSE at Half

WC 10-0 over NC at Half

LC 7-0 over LN at Half

Pike 0-19 losing to ZVille at Half

I’m really upset over the lack of end zone cameras

4 hours ago, DT said:

Why do we have a system where the biggest and wealthiest schools get a free week off to rest up and heal and prepare and go on vacation, and our smaller more urban schools are thrown directly into the post season fire without the same privileges?

MIC schools go 4 deep at every position and have the best equipment and medical support money can buy.  Do they need a week off more than a rural school with barely a 2 deep roster that probably has to take a long road trip for a first round sectional game?

 

 

One might say because the 6A athletes are bigger, faster and stronger that they might require a break in their schedule due to being significantly more banged up at their skill positions and among starters.  

7 hours ago, DT said:

It is the responsibility of the IHSAA to attempt to see that all schools are treated fairly and equitably.  While the schools themselves are not concerned about the bye situation, the governing body, the IHSAA, should be.  It just defies logic that a school with 100 kids on the roster that goes 4 deep at every position gets a week off while a school with 21 that cant even scrimmage in practice has to go out and play a do or die elimination game.  Where's the fairness and equity in that?

The IHSAA is a governing body still ran by the schools.  The schools voted for this and have not once brought up playing a 10th game.  
 

Furthermore, even if there was a week 10, the schools DO NOT have to play.  There have been numerous teams take week 9 off in the past.  By no means are you required to play a full 9-game schedule.

This is great for the fans but a large majority of the 6A programs that I’ve spoken with prefer the week off to get healthy for the tournament.

 The lengthy car rides up north or down to Indy for a meaningless regular season game also, while the hardcore fan loves these games, there is no interest from students who have never heard of the opposing school will bring tens of fans to this type of game.  Obviously it’s a bit different if a school has their senior night week 10, that brings up the crowd significantly.  Most schools though are eliminating costs and not adding them so I can’t see a transportation department wanting to drive the 2+ hours to a regular season game for a 5th time in a single season prior to the tournament.  
 

I want to get behind this because I want to see a 10th game for these groups who only get to play 14 if you make it to the title game, but I don’t see the value for the schools unless you’re playing locally.  Even then, you’ll be hard pressed to find a coach who hasn’t enjoyed resting their team the week before the playoffs begin.

I watched a majority of their game Friday night on ihsaatv.  Solid program, played well.

1 hour ago, Gipper said:

Have you been to Gary?

Yea, not scared

We should all start planning now to fill their stands at their first home game of 2020.  Bring your friends, bring your family, let’s fill the place up.  

17 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

You railed against Tom Allen, Mike Kirschner and now Jason Simmons...so carry on.

Lol, funny thing is they won the MIC and technically won the tiebreaker that doesn’t exist.   MIC is bad though, contraction must be near.

15 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said:

They have to get over the LC block first. 

Exactly!  15 straight wins by LC I believe

1 hour ago, MuleDriver said:

When did the mid state form? I remember the arties were a member of CI and before that the SCC. Did they leave and then come back?

Exactly.  They were in CI until the start of the 06-07 school year.