GOLDRUSH1985

Snider won't be challenged until the Regional .

I think if Penn were to lose next Friday it will be the Offense or lack there of . I don't see Warsaw scoring more than 21 points on Penn's defense . Penn's Offense still lacks consistency, they must stay ahead of the chains and limit penalties . And going forward , the lack of a good field goal kicker will surely hurt them as well .

Still can't believe Warsaw took out Carroll. Penn's defense seems to be playing better as of late, I think seeing Mishawaka and New Prairie this year should help them against Warsaw . If we get by Warsaw , I think every Penn fan would love a shot at CP for a Semistate berth especially at home .

Penn - 35 Elkhart - 0 3rd

Penn - 28 Elkhart - 0 3rd

Mishawaka - 35 Goshen - 0

Penn- 21 Elkhart - 0 2nd

Mishawaka will be a tough out , especially if the game is at Mishawaka .

Going with BD at home .

What is driving baseball is longtime coach Greg Dikos(6 State Titles) . He has created a program at Penn that resembles what Chris Geesman had for football . And it starts with Youth programs . Harris youth Baseball has been one of the best in the state/midwest for years. Same for the girls softball program . If Penn's administration is not willing to make a change , then I wish the coaches would , because they have been blown out too many times in big games.

No skull dragging because your finally on to something LOL . Like BlackGold stated , it's been happening here for a few years . We've also lost good Talent to a very small school to the north in Michigan . Seems there are a lot of parents who want there children in a small school environment.

This is why I say it's the program and not as much enrollment , although enrollment does help . Look at Perry Meridian in Wrestling, or how about Mater Dei , Mishawaka and Bellmont . They had the premier wrestling programs in the state , size did not matter .

I always said that it's the program not enrollment . One of the most important(In any sport) are the schools feeder/youth programs.

Not going down that rabbit hole because it's irrelevant since Penn is not in the HCC . Besides my thoughts wouldn't matter anyway as you would be right as always . Kind of like arguing with your 16 year old child , they know it all and the parent is always wrong .

Carmel , BD and Warren have well over 1000 more kids than Center Grove, Carmel and BD 2000 more . How does Center Grove do it with the lack of depth you speak of ?

A coaching change is long overdue .

Your Being kind calling them interesting , I have another word for some decisions made in the past . I don't see Penn dropping Valpo , but I would drop Mishawaka like a bad habit over Carmel . Most years , Carmel is going to be a better team than Mishawaka . And Penn needs to play better teams .

I understand the rankings, I was referring to head to head games .

I would take Lawrence North , Franklin Central and Noblesville over Penn and CP .

Not defending Penn , Saying CP is ranked way to High .

Not sure why that's a hard one . You already said move Noblesville in front of Penn . Penn has a better win against Valpo than Crown Point does. Penn also has a win over Mishawaka who I would pick to beat anyone that Crown Point has played.

Would you take Crown Point over Noblesville in a bet?

Don't think we have to worry about any Indy schools , I don't see Penn getting past Carroll . There's also Crown Point.

That may be true , but judging by what Noblesville did to homestead and the Carroll vs Homestead and Snider vs Homestead games . I would move Noblesville in front of both of them as well .

Wasn't the same as what ? Not saying he wasn't 100% but what are you comparing his performance to? Has NP seen a defense as good as Penn's this year? NP has played 3 teams this year that have 1-7 records , 1 team that is 3-5 and 2 teams that are 4-4 . I know that Penn players don't look the same when they play Indianapolis Cathedral as they did when playing South Bend Adams is my point .