NLCTigerFan07

Just playing devil's advocate here @Irishman - why isn't this thread locked and placed in "The Next Level" - same as the Brady Allen thread? Jack Kiser is not a current Indiana high school football player.

25 minutes ago, temptation said:

Wait, so buying the 6A game is the only option?

37 minutes ago, IHSAAtv said:

For Comcast subscribers, be aware that the 6A game, played Friday night, will not air on the Bally or Bally Xtra channel due to a contractual relationships with the Pacers.

It appears to only be for Comcast subscribers. I do not live in Indiana anymore, so I'm not sure what other providers there are that have Bally Sports. But like @PDB26 said... absolutely brutal.

21 minutes ago, FastpacedO said:

FW Carroll did not hold Lafayette Jeff to their lowest point total all season. Jeff scored 20 points against Carroll, Cathedral held Jeff to 12 points.

*Second lowest

Better?

I do not necessarily think Carroll is going to win this game, but to all the "naysayers" in these comments that are continuing to point back to the Lafayette Jeff game in the Regionals, you all realize you're cherry picking one game right? Teams can have "off" games as we all should know by now. I look back to this weekend in college football for two prime examples.

Baylor lost 31-3 two weeks ago against Kansas State - and then almost beat an undefeated TCU team this week. If everyone was holding that Kansas State game against the Bears, instead of seeing it as a potential off game, no one would have given them a shot against the Horned Frogs.

South Carolina lost 38-6 two weeks ago against Florida... then puts up 63 points in their smack down of Tennesee this week. Who saw that coming after their terrible performance against the Gators?

Point being - if the reasoning you are using to doubt Carroll is because of their 21-20 victory on the road in the Regionals against a team that was 9-2, I would find another angle.

I see this game being a low-ish scoring affair. The Chargers have a STOUT defense (only giving up 9.8 ppg this year) which held Lafayette Jeff to their lowest point total all season, and HSE to their second lowest point total all season. But Center Grove is a well oiled machine, and has been there, done that exeperience on their side.

Center Grove wins 24-20

Side note outside of all this banter

I highly encourage anyone that is able to make the trip to MAKE THE TRIP! Carroll's stadium/facility is without a doubt in the Top 5 of all Indiana in my opinion. Truly an amazing complex they have. Worth the price of admission for that alone.

23 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

Saturday Afternoon/Evening - 2 Games

@Plymouth

Andrean/Luers

Valparaiso/Snider

 

@Warsaw 

North Judson/Adams Central

New Prairie/Kokomo

Great mock up overall! I would potentially flip flop these matchups and venues. Plymouth would be a better option for 3 of the teams listed at Warsaw (sorry Adams Central), and I think Warsaw's stadium on both sides has more seating than Plymouth. Obviously all 4 of these games will/would be highly attended, but having your matchups grouped as they are, feel like the Ft Wayne/Region schools at Warsaw would make for a great atmosphere.

10 minutes ago, Basementbias said:

Snider was able to stop Warsaw's so should be familiar. Mishawaka may have better athletes though than Warsaw. 

When exactly did Snider and Warsaw play any time in recent history....?????

News flash - they haven't 😉

Congrats to Northridge pulling out the upset yet again this season, but I have to be honest that I'm disappointed NorthWood couldn't get a done. Now a giant "What if?" for the Panthers this year. Would have loved to have seen them at full strength this offseason, and potentially battling New Prairie, Kokomo/Columbia City, and then New Pal/Roncalli. What a heck of a postseason run that could have been.

Best of luck to the Cavemen and Raiders this weekend! Would love to see Northridge pull out another repeat from last year on Friday night

55 minutes ago, Piratefan101 said:

Plus those Indy schools don’t wanna travel up here. It’s been said for years. They always want us there 

52 minutes ago, temptation said:

There’s no need for Indy schools to travel farther than 40 miles from their locker room.

And yet - 6A Indy schools will be making trips to Warsaw and Fort Wayne for regular season games in the near future!

Carroll by 28 - Tigers were impressive last week on the defensive side of the ball, but Carroll is an offensive juggernaut. The Chargers blanked Warsaw 36-0 last year in the sectional championship in a game that was over quickly. I will be pleasantly surprised if the Tigers have this game close at halftime. If they do, they'll have a chance.

Mishawaka by 21 - I realize the first matchup was close a few weeks ago, and the Minutemen offense has looked more competent 4 of the last 5 weeks, but I simply think the Cavemen are the much better team and will find a way to get it done in an impressive fashion. Pulling for Mishawaka as well because I think it would be fascinating to see them match up with either Snider or North Side in the Regional game.

NorthWood by 35 - this game wasn't close in the regular season, and I know that didn't mean much last year. Even with the off-field distrations for the Panthers, I see them rolling before a very unique/interesting matchup with New Prairie next week.

Yeah I assumed that as well - was just curious the impact it would have for NorthWood. We know of 4 players who I assume are definitely out since it's public record. Didn't know if there were any more than that who would be out. Guess we'll find out tomorrow night at the very least

In addition to the 4 players who were 18 years old and were actually booked, were there any other underage players impacted? I guess I don't know what happens to 17 year olds and under who get "busted" at an underage drinking situation

On 10/23/2022 at 9:32 PM, ASJCPUMA said:

Homestead 2 closest games were Snider and North where they won by 7 and 8

The rest they had little trouble

Penn playing Cathedral and St X. besides Elkhart they have faced some good competition as well

Would love to see this game

That 6a SECTIONAL IS one of the best this year

Assuming you meant Carroll here. Most impressive part for the Chargers is their improvement on the defensive side of the ball since 2020. They've had a high scoring offense these past 3 seasons, but this year they have been vastly improved on D. Should be a great game!

@Plymouthfan91 - Can I ask what makes you so confident in this? I will give you that Plymouth likely has had the stronger schedule between the two teams, but the only teams Plymouth have hung with this year are a terrible Wawasee squad and a banged up Goshen team.

St Joe's has a Sagarin Rating of 46.53 with wins over teams that have Sagarin Ratings of 43.92 (SB Adams), 40.40 (Marian), and 38.51 (Lakeland).

Plymouth has a Sagarin Rating of 24.48.

The Indians are about an 18.5 point favorite according to @hhpatriot04 predictor tool.

Help me drink the Big Red kool-aid! What makes you think the Pilgrams are going to keep this one close?

12 hours ago, Plymouthfan91 said:

I agree except for a couple of games...

1.  Plymouth will upset St. Joe.  (I believe that we are due)

Not a chance in the world

11 hours ago, Bobref said:

I’ll actually be at the Rockpile for this one. What are the chances it will be a competitive game?

I would be SHOCKED if this is competitive. St Joe ain't world burners, but they are definitely better than Wawasee and Goshen, and Concord isn't MUCH better than the Indians and the Rockies got smoked 52-0.

5 hours ago, 00NWP said:

I think Mishawaka will give Merriville a game in regionals, however, I think they will fall to the pirates.

Mishawaka would play the winner of the Fort Wayne sectional in Regionals. They would not meet up with Merrillville until Semi-State

On 8/17/2022 at 2:52 PM, NLCTigerFan07 said:

Here are my predictions for the NLC race this season. We'll check back in 9 short weeks to see how I've done.

1. NorthWood - I think they surprise and win the title this year in a wide open conference race. They have two QBs with quite a bit of experience and athletes all over the field. With the new schedule, they have a tough lineup week's 3-7, so we'll know by October how this prediction plays out.

2. Warsaw - The Tigers have only won 1 NLC Title under Coach Curtis, and always seem to get tripped up in a game that ultimately prevents them from claiming the crown. They should be solid this season bringing back their QB and getting back a stud FB from injury, and defensively anchored by the Katris twins.

3. Mishawaka - The Cavemen will be a good team this year and will easily compete for the NLC crown again. However, they are 0-2 against the Tigers since their move to the new conference, and with the game at Warsaw this season, I see them losing another close battle and perhaps another game this season.

4. Goshen - Here's an even bigger surprise than picking NorthWood as champs. I think Coach Wogomon gets the Redhawks on the right track, and they have a QB with plenty of experience. His play is what I'm betting on for Goshen to end up in the top half of the NLC this season as opposed to the other contenders below them here.

5. Northridge - I firmly believe the Raiders will once again have the or one of the stoutest defenses in the conference. However, can they score on offense? Losing Gott was a bigger blow than what I think some Northridge fans are leading on. If they somehow figure something out on that side of the ball, they can move up this list, but they'll need to prove that first.

6. Concord - They definitely have athletes and a few "dudes" on the roster this year, but I think they see a big drop off following their championship season from last year. Starting their NLC schedule with NorthWood then Warsaw, might be the deciding factor for them. If they played those teams later in the season, maybe they'd have a chance with more experience under their belt. Coach Koehler is great though and can definitely get the Minutemen to eat my words.

7 & 8  Wawasee/Plymouth - Both of these teams will be just as bad as they have been for the last few seasons. The Warriors have the benefit of having the same coach, whereas the Rockies are breaking in a new coach who did not exactly set the world on fire during his time at Wabash. Wawasee also has a fairly manageable schedule their first 4 weeks of the season, whereas Plymouth opens with 3 consecutive road games that will all but certainly be losses.

This definitely feels like a season in which we will have some sort of shared title between two or more teams. Would not surprise me at all.

Looking back on this post-  I was spot on with some predictions, and missed elsewhere. I called the Panthers winning the NLC title, and they looked dominant in doing so. An instant classic game against Mishawaka almost derailed the perfect season for NorthWood, but they win the conference title with their eyes set on a run to Indianapolis on Thanksgiving weekend.

Flip flopped between Mishawaka and Warsaw, and I swung and missed on my bold prediction of Goshen coming out the gates swinging in Wogomon's first year. Of course, injuries did not help the Redhawks in that area. I correctly picked Northridge to finish ahead of Concord. The Minutemen swing back and forth between .500 regular season records one year, then compete for a confernce championship the next. Look for Concord to be in the thick of things next season!

Best of luck to all the NLC teams in the state tournament. Obviously pulling hard to see my Tigers get a few upset victories, but think NorthWood and Mishawaka both have a chance in their respective classes.

I'd love to see Mishawaka battle with Snider or North in that Regional title game, and a NorthWood vs. New Prairie matchup in that Regional would be a darn good one as well. I truly think things set up nicely for the Panthers. They will be on the road their first two games, but would host the Sectional Championship game, and then would likely host the Regional as well (specifically if it's New Prairie that they play against).

On 8/29/2022 at 2:06 PM, NLCTigerFan07 said:

Didn't see a thread for 6A and the season currently, but thought it was interesting to see Sectional 2 with the top 3 scoring defenses in 6A (and all 4 teams in Top 10) so far through Week 2. I do not necessarily expect it to end up that way when it's all said and done, but wanted to give a shoutout to those team's defensive units. 

6A

1. Elkhart   3.50 
2. Penn   6.00
3. Warsaw   7.00
4. Lake Central   8.00
5. Fishers   8.50
6. Crown Point   9.00
7. Hamilton Southeastern   10.50
7. Homestead   10.50
9. Carroll (FW)   12.00
9. Franklin Central   12.00

Well I called this out after Week 2 - and it looks to have held up pretty well! Just super interesting to see all 4 of the teams in Sectional 2 included in the Top 5 Scoring Ds for 6A through the regular season. You can argue about each of these teams strength of schedules, I don't care, just an neat observation here. Should be some great matchups between those 4 teams!

6A - Scoring Defense

1. Carroll (FW) 7.56
2. Elkhart 8.78
3. Penn 12.44
4. Crown Point 13.56
5. Warsaw 14.11
6. Cathedral 16.38
7. Hamilton Southeastern 16.78
8. Carmel 17.44
9. Lake Central 18.00
10. Lafayette Jeff 18.22

Not necessarily a topic for the sectional games, but just thought it was interesting to see the conference standings be perfectly balanced. I always love it when things like that happen.

Thank you both! @Southside @BTF - I knew it was that way for the 8 team sectionals, but wasn't sure how the 4 team sectionals worked

I know when it comes to 4A-1A, the bottom team in the bracket hosts the next round, but if we get to the sectional championship game and there is a team who has hosted the first 2 rounds while the other team has been on the road the first 2 rounds, the team who's been on the road the first 2 weeks will host.

With 5A and 6A - how does it work? As a fan, I am allowed to look ahead, so maybe these scenarios will help understand my question:

Scenario 1 - Warsaw beats Elkhart at home, Penn beats Carroll at home - Warsaw would host the sectional championship, correct?

Scenario 2 - Warsaw beats Elkhart at home, Carroll beats Penn on the roard - Warsaw is the "bottom" part of the bracket, would they host? Or would Carroll get to host since their first sectional game was away?

13 minutes ago, BTF said:

2014? No offense, but that's funny. Both New Haven and Columbia City took Carroll to overtime and Carmel beat them by 49 points.  That team would get trounced by the 2022 version. 

Fair enough! They trounced my Tigers that year (and they year before). I guess I was thinking the 2014 team had the Tranquill brothers, but maybe they were there the year before?

1 hour ago, BTF said:

I think Carroll's offenses in '20 & '21 were slightly better than this years version. This team has a better defense though. Regardless, it all equates to Carroll's best team ever. Unfortunately, I think there is still a gap between them and the top 5 or 6 teams out of Indy. 

I can definitely agree with you on 2020, but last year's Charger defense was pretty stout! 5 shutouts in 12 games, and held two other opponents to 10 points or less. It's semantics either way though, Carroll's team all-around this year is pretty darn good.

The 2014 squad might take offense to your best team ever though 😉 However, this year's squad will have as good a chance as ever of winning a Regional Championship since they lucked into being in Sectional 2 and not Sectional 3. Won't be easy, but a potential path through a 7-2 Penn, 9-1 Elkhart, and 11-0 Crown Point squad to do it? SHEESH! Murderers Row there!

11 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Penn is not the old Penn, this coming straight from Penn fans. I have heard more than a few fans grumbling about coaching, you had a good one in Geesman for sure. Still a fan in how hard Penn plays though

I am not sure what the "old Penn" has anything to do with this year's team and their upcoming game against this year's Carroll squad. My statement about Penn having a good defense this year is only about this year. I think it will be a good matchup against Carroll's juggarnaut offense.

1 hour ago, Yuccaguy said:

The discussion was Snider/Penn...not Penn vs. Cathedral/St. X.  

I understand - but the topic is Penn vs. Carroll so I'm a little confused. I only brought up Cathedral and St. X when pointing out that I feel like the Kingsmen are not getting the credit they deserve with their 6-2 record and transitioning my post to the Penn/Carroll matchup.