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North Posey - South Spencer: https://44news.wevv.com/countdown-kick-off-north-posey-south-spencer/

Heritage Hills: https://amp.courierpress.com/amp/1922280001?__twitter_impression=true

Then we you click place Order and pay you are taken to a page with snail mail instructions.

It should be...but it's not. At least not for me.

I can not locate the paypal option this year. It is not here: https://gridirondigest.net/clients/donations/1-2019-20-budget/

Tell City: https://44news.wevv.com/countdown-kick-off-tell-city-perry-central/

Gibson Southern and Southridge: https://www.tristatehomepage.com/sports/htf-two-a-days-gibson-southern/ South Spencer: https://www.tristatehomepage.com/sports/htf-two-a-days-south-spencer/

Calpreps is basically just for a beginning of year team profile to get their rating system kick started. I would say most everyone loads stats to Max Preps.

bump

Apparently so is competition.

Hard to bump a Mega School up to 7A.

Sorry for the type-o there. Had the numbers pulled up on my screen. Anyway the same point is made. If this is the biggest mistake I make this week I’ll be doing great LOL. No embarrassment here!!

I can tell you when I pay 10-15k for something...it better work as expected LOL! Some horses are built and some are bred. Like I said, some years it's more about the other guy and mother nature than it is about you. No one with any class will take credit from Hurley for his successes.

Case Study: SIAC Memorial 3A (about 600 kids) vs Castle 5A (almost 6A) (about 1200 kids). These two schools many years battle it out for the conference all sports champion in both boys and girls sports. Are the Memorial student athletes working twice as hard? Are the Coaches twice as good? Could it be that both schools have roughly the same number of quality success driven student athletes in the hallways? What are the percentages of students from each school that participate in extracurricular activities (athletic and non-athletic). How many of the 1200 at Castle participate in absolutely nothing? I see here all the time how much "money" the Newburgh area has for sports....yet these two institutions are relatively equal in term of athletic performance. Is enrollment alone the best way to classify these schools?

I can name 1 school that is worried about any other school in the South having success/spotlight. I mean if I had had the kind of successes they have had the last 3 years the very very very last thing on my mind would be a little public out in a cornfield. The fact that they watch us so closely really speaks volumes. Paths to State very every cycle and anyone who says they pray for their path to get tougher is full it. For top notch programs in any sport some years your better teams don't advance and some years your weaker teams do, so many variables out of your control. Good news is the only asterisks exits in weak minds of haters.

I agree with your perspective on the success factor. And like I said, I don't think separating private/public would work in Indiana, although I think it might in some states. I am very familiar with getting better and can do the Macho chest bumping in that regard as well as anyone. That said...enrollment based classification is apples to oranges.

Beating Memorial hasn't been a problem 50% of the time (through hard work and top notch coaching JMO) and couldn't beat vs didn't beat Chatard are two completely different things. Your ability to turn any thread to a chest bumping opportunity for your fantastic run is pretty remarkable. Great team, great athletes....you deserve it. But everyone on this thread knows that enrollment only won't work due to the inherent ability of privates to have more quality kids per capita. It is undeniable.

I will admit that my perspective, opinion, and research are football related and focused on my class (3A). That said, even across all sports and classes, simply looking at the state champion only probably isn’t the best way to prove a point either way. And thank you success factor...from 2012 on right? Honestly I forget. Still apples to oranges to use enrollment only as a way to categorize vastly different educational institutions for sports. Why would you do that?

More of them my friend. If you think enrollment only is the answer, I won't convince you otherwise here. But it's a no brainer. We will have to agree to disagree.

Trust me, if I were them I would advocate for the status quo as well....no one likes to give up an advantage they KNOW they have. I wouldn't really advocate for two separate tournaments in Indiana just because their probably aren't enough Privates to make it work. Enrollment only isn't the answer though and virtually every state in the union acknowledges that much. The question is, what is the best method by which two completely different institution types can complete on an even playing field? It is debated here often and we will never have agreement....I will say though as I look at it multipliers look more appealing to me than they used to only because there are so many models/states out there now as case studies.

I think you missed my point....enrollment "only" falls far short on just about every level as being an adequate method by which to classify like for like schools....it's just stupid. In your example school B is probably a power house because of the nature of private schools to not only attract a higher quality student athlete on average (Mommy and Daddy expect a certain result for 15k per year), vs School A who has a certain percentage of kids there only because they have a pulse and the law says they have to be there. This isn't a "try harder" or " get better" issue. It is a level playing field issue. There are distinct measurable differences between the two institution types that provide school B with a higher percentage of student athletes per capita. I would have no problem with them not being able to compete against each other in the STATE tournament....because they shouldn't be to begin with. "STATE" tournament almost has an implicit "STATE FUNDED" feel to the word doesn't it....almost.

You really think that? You honestly feel that enrollment alone is the best way to classify two types of learning institutions for athletics that basically have almost nothing in common? Instead of play better....how bout...play institutions with the same number of student athletes....not just students. It just slays me how some public guys will get on there and thump their chest with this, " we won't back down to anyone" rhetoric. We classify for a reason.