Titan32

I don’t believe hard working programs should be penalized. I do believe in choice and we just happen to be one of the better free choices in town. Doesn’t change the fact even at a place like GS we will never come close to the homogeneity of a private school. This is why enrollment alone tends to line the trophy cases of our private friends…hard work isn’t exclusive to publics or privates….dead weight however is pretty much exclusive to the former.

I would have to research to get those numbers. The attraction is a top notch education with very few "issues" as compared with the corporation/school to the North and South. We get a lot of previously bullied kids Kind of similar to what you guys pay for I would guess. For a public school, GS is a special place. I know at one point they put a shut down on the out of district kids as it was growing too large. I just wish more of them were 6'4" 265....LOL. In addition the new line at Toyota and companies like Diversity Viewtech continually looking for employees. I own rental properties and had one available recently, I was shocked at the number of applicants who had taken the Toyota relocation package and were looking to "get their family to Indiana" as they were still living out of state.

Happy Thanksgiving!

I know we have something like 100 plus kids (all corporation schools combined) that are commuting in from other districts. The one to our North and the one to our South seem to be popular.

We appear to be the desired school in our area.

Oh well...that explains it!

It's plenty significant enough to make enrollment only classification not work in 2A and 3A. The data speaks for itself......or folks can just keep telling themselves the disparity in championship appearances is because of some magical Catholic work ethic brought over the pond from hearty Irish ancestors. There are plenty of publics with all the great things like feeder systems, supportive admin, supportive communities, quality facilities etc.....but they will always have that boat anchor of a significantly less homogenous student population. There is a reason half the states or so have a multiplier, the data is similar all across the country.

It's really not even about roster size....rosters have dead weight as well. Who is paying for your service?...people who put a high value on it.

Then what you have must be called denial.

Well done with Google! Did your parents also pay for a private education? It's simple really....does MD have numbers we can observe regarding kids how participate in extracurriculars, go on to post secondary programs, GPA, etc.?

No it didn't. This is a common misdirection pulled by P&P apologists. A certain type of parent with certain types of kids enroll at the private (and they probably do have a good work ethic). Does NP have some of those same types of parents and kids....of course they do. The problem that will never go away is the much larger percentage of kids at the public who are not interested in a high level of academic or extracurricular success. Given, publics like NP and GS will have a smaller chunk of "dead weight" than most publics but even with that, GS will never ever approach the level of ERM and NP will never ever approach the level of MD with regard to quality success driven student athletes, NEVER. Not one year, not one time, NEVER. The institutions are catastrophically dissimilar in student population type. It's interesting how paying for a service drives expectations.

You honestly think that there are even close to the same number of quality success driven student athletes between MD and NP....you really wanna say that? You have to realize that when someone pays for a service it because they are looking for specific outcomes, and when someone only attends an institution because the law says they have they are typically a completely different kind of student.....this completely skews "enrollment" and why an "enrollment" only classification system can never work, particularly if you are allowing publics and privates in the same tournament. Enrollment only might work if you only had publics in the system or only had privates in the system because then the effective enrollments are like for like. The two ways of doing school are so distinctively different with regard to student population type, enrollment alone just won't work and doesn't and hasn't. Unless as a private parent you feel entitled that your enrollment fees should also purchase you an unfair advantage in the tournament.

And this kids is what is wrong with the world today. My truth, your truth (how about our chakra?)....good lord. Facts are facts. The fact is, based on provable, irrefutable, empirical evidence is that P&Ps have a totally different student base that is grossly more homogenous, and this in itself is HUGE.

If this is supposed to bother me it doesn't. I suppose the SF did clear out an old 3A opponent, they wouldn't have been an issue last year but would have been a tough out. We should never compete with them based on effective enrollment (aside from a once in a decade team), if we are competing with them, they are doing something wrong...and they don't. Most years in terms of quality DNA on our football team, MD and GS will run much closer in the numbers of those type of kids than GS than ERM. Which, based on the paradigm, is how it does, should and will always work. Those who pretend it doesn't are lying to themselves and others.

Grown men who know the truth will continue to lobby for P&Ps to stay in their enrollment class and claim it is "fair"....every year I just can't wrap my head around that.

Cox and balls...what a mess!

gerrymandered how...that could mean multiple things to me? We have a plan that works about half the years just to avoid a multiplier...yeah it's dumb.

I think there is a good chance GS will be in 4A in 2024 or 2025 (enrollment).

So close to having a non-conference game in the SIAC if the PAC admins didn't hate VL.

Please God…let Lawrencburg win against the evil cheating Catholics!

https://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2022/11/18/ihsaa-football-mount-vernon-coach-luke-messmer-resigns-after-3-years/69660245007/

I don’t even know what the temperature was….but it’s the coldest I have been in my life.

2015 Semi State Gibson Southern vs Chatard at Lawrence North. 2013 Semi State Gibson Southern at Brebeuf was even colder...just no snow to deal with.

Gibson Southern has done well as a school team...I think he is talking about these summer teams the kids pay to play on. Kinda the equivalent of AAU basketball....your money is supposed to get you on the "best" team with the "best" "exposure" ...ie we will put your name in our twitter blasts.