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On 8/6/2022 at 11:01 PM, PHJIrish said:

The private and parochial schools are "content" with any student that can pay their tuition.  Plus you don't know near as much about private and parochial schools as you think you do.

So you are telling me ever kids that goes to a private school can pay the full tuition to go their.

11 hours ago, Yuccaguy said:

Start moving HS playoff games to Saturday and you'll REALLY see a dearth of officials who won't be around in Indiana. 

Many do (various levels) of College FB on that day.  Not a great idea, IMO!  

Could the same crew work both games that is played 

55 minutes ago, Basementbias said:

We are completely opposite as I find the 5&6 A games as boring. Indiana has decent D1 talent, but not usually enough on each team. Give me 1 & 2A games all day. Even some 3A & maybe 4A before 5&6A.

I think a lot depends on the area you are at and schools you follow.

On 8/2/2022 at 9:59 AM, whiteshoes said:

Leave Center Grove and try going to an A semi-state game.    The we will continue this conversation.

Why would I go to a class A game I find no interest in that level of play.  But I do see what you are talking about with size of stuff.  I had a crazy idea while at CG red&white practice.

1. Seed the teams and the higher seed host all games up to rengionals

2.  5A and 6A semi-state games are played on Friday at higher seed home field.

3.  1-4 play on Saturday and the games are held at schools that hosted semi-state for 5 and 6A those school have the size and other things that you would need.

20 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Every year as we get past the sectional, people moan and groan about driving distances for the regionals and semistates. Neutral sites can cut those driving distances in half, in addition to providing better venues. It’s disappointing when two really good teams play a high stakes game at a subpar facility.

When I had to drive down to Hatched house to watch CG vs BD for basketball a few years ago turned me against people groaning about travel. 

25 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

Seating, parking, concessions, rest rooms are just a few of the reasons for the push for neutral sites.   Standing five deep in the end zone of a semi-state game is not a lot of fun.   The players would love playing in the larger facilities as well.  While we are at it, let's play double-header semi-states on Saturday.    Gives families more time to get to the game, in mid-November it is usually warmer during the day and having two great games to watch on a fall afternoon is hard to beat.

Never have had that issue at the games I have gone to for those games as far as double header most families are just at the game for the team they cheer for.

 Not sure I get why their are some out there pushing for neutral sites for semi-state and even regional games.  My thoughts are this where seeding should be used, not who plays who but who has home field.  Take CG or Westfield the last two year both teams should not have played a way game in the tournament.

Glad to hear that I know CG has been for a while now 

On 7/30/2022 at 11:49 AM, CoachGalyan said:

I have never been charged by an opposing school.  

Ijust seen guest on a few topics that I thought DT stared did he leave again?

How many school charge the visiting team to do the webcast or radio of the game?

 Now this is not a knock on any school and do know if any else has see this before.  I got a flier in the mail for Franklin comm.  I have got them before from private schools but never a public one. I just found it odd.

19 minutes ago, foxbat said:

I think you'd be more likely to see Westfield and Zionsville push to boot some of the other schools out of the HCC and look at re-votes to admit Carmel and/or Center Grove rather than jump ship to form a new conference.

Not sure about Zionsville but Westfield want no part of CG. My understand is that they where a hard no from the start

2 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

Fantasy booking some Central Indiana conferences a few years down the road.  None of these will work out this way.  Just some ideas.  For football, Center Grove could still play Warren Central week 1, Carmel week 2, and Cathedral week 9 if they are in a 7 team conference as listed below.

Metropolitan Interscholastic Conference

Ben Davis

Indianapolis Arsenal Tech

Lawrence Central

Lawrence North

North Central

Pike

Warren Central

 

Hoosier Crossroads Conference

Avon

Brownsburg

Fishers

Hamilton Southeastern

Noblesville

Westfield

Zionsville

 

Conference Indiana

Center Grove

Franklin Central

Columbus North

Southport

Decatur Central

Plainfield

Whiteland

 

Mid-Indiana Conference

Mooresville

Martinsville

Terre Haute North

Terre Haute South

Bloomington South

Bloomington North

Franklin Community

Perry Meridian

 

Hoosier Heritage Conference

Shelbyville

Greenwood

Mount Vernon

Pendleton Heights

Greenfield-Central

New Palestine

New Castle

Beech Grove

 

Indiana Crossroads Conference

Speedway

Monrovia

Ritter

Lutheran

Triton Central

Indian Creek

Covenant Christian

Scecina

 

North Central Conference - West

Lafayette Jeff

McCutcheon

Harrison (WL)

West Lafayette

Logansport

Kokomo

Western

Lebanon

 

North Central Conference - East

Marion

Mississinewa

Delta

Yorktown

Jay County

Muncie Central

Anderson

Richmond

 

Independent

Carmel

Indianapolis Cathedral

I  think it is funny how people are trying to put Center Grove with schools like Whiteland and Dc and Fc just to name a few.  This schools want nothing to do with CG in football and in fact most sports in general..   Whiteland all ready drop CG a few years back and DC could have extended the series but did not want to.

52 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

October 17, 2008. 96-0. Never forget.

 

Yes that was a good game

1 minute ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Our experience thus far has been favorable. I would not be opposed to some sort of first half trigger. 

Like 42 points at any time you do not have to what till half

With us having a few years with the mercy rule now,  what are people thoughts on it and how it helping or hurting the game?

my two cents for what it is worth is in playoffs love it the way it is.  Regular season not so much as the way it is now.  This is how I would like to see it change.

1. Change the points from 35 to 42 at half, but still keep it at 35 for the 4th

2 have a different mercy rule for each class or group like 1-4 and 5-6 and I would be ok with making 1-4 the way we have it now and 5-6 the way I have above.  I know it will asked what about a team in class 4 plays a team in 5 what do you do with different mercy rules?  My though would be you go with the lower class school rule since I am basing this on my idea on team size and kids that would get to play

3 no mercy rule for freshman and Jv games  those games are already shorter 
 

3 hours ago, HHF said:

Yes it was,  And for the most part, the vast majority of rosters are accurate.

Thgis is a special case.  We have a near 5 star recruit whose height is reported on one recruiting service at 6-5 and on another at 6 - 2 .5  Thats a huge difference.  And is misleading.  Intentional or not

You crack me up Jon.

When My son had his  physical was done they did his h/w with his shoes and cloths on,  and I know that is what was on the official school roster. The school did not  do their own h/w they just copy what was on his physical. Also as some one who that done a lot of h/w over the years I can tell you it easy for a persons h/w to be different based on scale or you is doing the height measurement and how they are doing it

also I know mine was not I was 2in taller and 10 pounds more

Ok not sure if info I had this heard is right,  but my source is right more time then not. Cg and Carmel went to the Mic first and asked them if they would want enter into talks with HHC about merging into one supper conference.  My understanding is the rest of the MIC said no so after that is when CG and Carmel went to the rest of the mic about change conference.  

14 hours ago, HHF said:

Im happy for the kid.  But I can also be against the deceptive misinformation that is allowed to circulate This is one of the more egregious variance to reality that I can recall seeing for an ultra high level recruit.  

Was your roster h/w right when you played 

23 hours ago, oldtimeqb said:

Out of curiosity, what was the size of CG back then?  I find it fascinating to look back at some of the record books and see places like Zionsville and Westfield as 2A and 3A schools.  

And 1975 wasn't that long ago... at least IMO. LOL

My best guess would be around 900 to 1100  

my mom graduated with around 230in her class in 69. 
 

also fun fact about that team and year they did not play a home game.  because the new stadium hat not been finished yet

11 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

A school conference is a voluntary association of schools and athletic directors. Because they are not spending taxpayer money for conference business (each team pays dues or shares costs for trophies, et al, out of athletic department funds that come from ticket sales), their meetings are not required to be open to the public. 

Most conferences are public school-only. Some are private-school only (the Circle City Conference being one). A few are a mix of private and charter schools (The Pioneer conference, which is a non-football conference, fits that bill). Some have a mix of both (LCC, for example, is a member of the Hoosier Conference. The Indiana Crossroads has two private schools among its eight teams). 

Thank you for the information 

Got to wondering  the other day are conferences public or private and what I mean by that.  Most school boards are public and have open meeting and any can go and get the minutes from there  meetings.  My thinking is if the conference like Mic or HCC or mid-state to name a few are tied  to public school then would they not be the same and held to the same rules.

29 minutes ago, NLCTigerFan07 said:

With the enrollment numbers posted, and the statement from the meeting notes of "Point totals from 2020-21 and the current school year will be used to determine Tournament Success Factor movement." (meaning Cathedral will get bumped up to 6A) - here is my stab at 6A Sectional assignments. The biggest issue? There are 9 schools north of U.S. Route 24, so at least 3 schools will have to be brought "north" to make up at least 3 of the sectional groupings. My guess? Obviously Lafayette Jeff, but also Westfield and Noblesville.

Sectional 1: Crown Point, Lafayette Jeff, Lake Central, Portage
Sectional 2: Elkhart, Penn, Warsaw, Westfield
Sectional 3: Carroll, Homestead, Noblesville, Northrop
Sectional 4: Carmel, Fishers, Hamilton Southeastern, Zionsville

Sectional 5: Avon, Ben Davis, Brownsburg, Pike
Sectional 6: Arsenal Tech, Perry Meridian, Southport, Warren Central
Sectional 7: Cathedral, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, North Central
Sectional 8: Center Grove, Columbus North, Franklin Central, Jeffersonville

I see no fault in this but, are we sure that Cathedral is moving up.  

I am not sure if I asking this right but here goes.  Why not want until the new school starts to do the reclass.  At the start at the school year all school must report their  numbers.  Then then ihsaa can reclass ever one. I fell this  way you would get more true numbers on kids at the school who could play then using  the years befores numbers where the seniors are already gone, and you get the freshmen class that is coming in to the school.  

15 minutes ago, Grover said:

Not defending the travel rule but cheerleading isn't an IHSAA sanctioned sport.

I know this and so are other sports like boys volleyball and lacrosse.  But how it fair for some to be able to travel to such things and not others