HoopsCoach

On 4/26/2024 at 1:42 PM, HoopsCoach said:

Brewer has proposed this rule before, and continues to propose it because Yorktown volleyball can’t win state in 4A.  The entire reason for this is so their volleyball team can get moved back to 3A and win state again.  Fortunately, it doesn’t look like the proposal is getting much support.  Similar results to the polling occurred at other spring principals meetings.

In my opinion, the point total to stay up was appropriate at 2 points per cycle.  If your team is good enough to win 2 sectionals or 1 regional in a class above your enrollment, you are good enough to stay up.  The change that was made for this year was not necessary in my opinion.  It was proposed by Jeff Doyle from Barr-Reeve, who is an executive committee member, and was again motivated by a successful volleyball program.  The position on the executive committee should be a good indication of how it got approved.

 

10 hours ago, Lysander said:

It should have been left at 2 points to start with rather than the current 3 points. If you can move up a class and either win a Sectional two years in a row or a Regional one of two years then you are in the appropriate class…..insofar as the purpose of the SF was intended to be.

 

Agree, as evidenced by my post last Friday.

10 hours ago, Lysander said:

That’s inconsistent to everything I have heard in the past from the lacrosse community going back almost 20 years.  Could you elaborate?

It isn’t any direct knowledge I have, but it is what was shared by the IHSAA commissioner.

10 hours ago, Basementbias said:

Well that's all squared away along with announcing girls wrestling and boys volleyball. Have to think boys & girls lacrosse will be next in line.

The lacrosse coaches do not have an interest in becoming an official IHSAA sport.

1 hour ago, US31 said:

 

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/04/26/girls-wrestling-boys-volleyball-proposed-as-recognized-sports-by-ihsaa/73438427007/

FTA 

Stacey Brewer, the principal at Yorktown, submitted a proposal to address the change that has been made to the one-game regional and two-game semistate and how it relates to the tournament success factor.

As it stands, if a school is moved up a class via the tournament success factor, it must earn three points (a regional championship is worth two points, a sectional one) during a two-year period to stay up (that was changed from two points last year). Under Brewer’s proposal, another point would be added, meaning a school would have to accumulate four points during a two-year period to remain up a class.

The straw poll at Plainfield showed just 15 in favor and 52 opposed to that change. (my emphasis)

Thoughts?  The 1 Game Regional, 2 Game Semistate, comment applies to basketball only?  Doesn't look like it got much traction, but seems to be a desire by some to make it "harder" for teams to "stay up"?

 

Brewer has proposed this rule before, and continues to propose it because Yorktown volleyball can’t win state in 4A.  The entire reason for this is so their volleyball team can get moved back to 3A and win state again.  Fortunately, it doesn’t look like the proposal is getting much support.  Similar results to the polling occurred at other spring principals meetings.

In my opinion, the point total to stay up was appropriate at 2 points per cycle.  If your team is good enough to win 2 sectionals or 1 regional in a class above your enrollment, you are good enough to stay up.  The change that was made for this year was not necessary in my opinion.  It was proposed by Jeff Doyle from Barr-Reeve, who is an executive committee member, and was again motivated by a successful volleyball program.  The position on the executive committee should be a good indication of how it got approved.

On 3/11/2024 at 7:24 PM, tango said:

Has that actually happened where 3-4 schools dropped football or closed in a given year or two?

Yes. In the 2 year cycle of 22-23 and 23-24, there were actually 6 schools included in the 1A alignment which did not compete in the 1A tournament during the 2nd year of the cycle.  Traders Point Christian, Anderson Prep Academy, Rock Creek Academy, Oldenburg Academy, Indiana Deaf, and Dugger Union did not compete in the tournament.  So if 1A had started with 32 in this cycle, the tournament this year would have included 26 teams.  Sectionals would start with 4 teams in each, so if one or two teams drop from the tournament, you end up with a 1 game sectional.  Indianapolis Tindley could have won a sectional without playing a single game.  Looking at who the 32 smallest schools were, it is very possible that a sectional would have included Traders Point, Indiana Deaf, Tindley, and Anderson Prep.  That would be the definition of a participation trophy.

 

On 3/12/2024 at 10:35 AM, JQWL said:

I believe what he is saying is that less than 32 teams would devalue a championship. 5A and 6A have 32 currently and have a much less of a chance at shutting down a program before the season begins or not being able to finish because of injury. 1A could begin with 32 and be at 28 by the end of a two year cycle. I know a few years ago (2021?) we had at least two 1A schools shut the program down right before the season began. It's not a ridiculous thing to consider.

Correct, that was my point, as further illustrated with my example above.

 

On 3/12/2024 at 9:08 AM, CoachMack219 said:

If this is a legitimate concern, we could just utilize our brain power (decision makers) and write a clause or bylaw into the classification rules that would allow 1A to be corrected/ adjusted to always have 32 teams, given extreme circumstances such as "teams in 1A drop football or close all together in a 2 year cycle, (list other reasons), or otherwise." I was even kind enough to begin drafting the clause for 'em! Lol 

I'll be honest, one of my primary reasons for supporting 1A having 32 teams as opposed to 5A is the health and safety of the 1A players. Do we truthfully believe that it's "more grueling" for 5A schools with rosters of anywhere from 50-100 guys to go through their season than it is for 15-35 guys on 1A rosters, most of whom are playing all 3 ways? Let's give those 1A guys the extra week to get healthy before the postseason. Valpo, Merrillville, Whiteland, Decatur Central, and the like will manage just fine without a Bye, in my opinion. 

Doing this would result in a mid-cycle change of classification for schools.  There is already the potential for mid-cycle moves due to success factor (see Dwenger last season and the 3 team sectional that resulted), so the IHSAA might as well just realign the sectionals every year.  The leadership group already hates doing it every 2 years, so I don’t think they want to do something that increases the need to realign more often.  I do agree with the extra time for smaller schools to recover, but I think that can be accomplished by giving smaller schools the option to play an 8-game regular season.

4 hours ago, RegionFBFan said:

I still like the earlier reco with:

6A:32

5A: 64

4A:64

3A:64

2A:64

1A:32

 

How much value is there in a 1A state championship after 3-4 teams in the class drop football or close all together in a 2 year cycle?  That is my primary reason for opposing 1A having only 32 schools.

5 hours ago, WCGrad92 said:

i believe its usually around end of March, 1st couple of weeks in April when they are usually released

 

In the past, the classifications and sectional alignments have been released after the conclusion of the winter sports season.  That way success factor moves for all but the spring sports can be included.

On 3/5/2024 at 8:27 AM, Muda69 said:

There is only one Illinois high school football field worth visiting/playing a game on and that is Fleur De Lis Field in Greenfield, Illinois.  Home of the Greenfield-NW Tigers.  High school football perfection:

 As this article states:

 

Looks like a cross between Field of Dreams and Deliverance.

On 2/18/2024 at 4:06 PM, Frozen Tundra said:

@foxbat @HoopsCoach @superjay

Hypothetical scenario for you. If Conference Indiana ever falls apart as it has been rumored for the past few years, could you see a scenario where the Sagamore grabs the two Terre Haute schools? I know that’s a two hour drive from Lafayette but the overall travel for them would still be shorter per season in a Sagamore with the Terre Haute schools than in the NCC.

Possibly. It would be a tough sell for the Terre Haute schools.  They would be a competitive fit in most sports but the distance to Terre Haute is a significant obstacle to membership in almost any conference.

When it was first announced that Harrison and McCutcheon were out of the NCC, I thought they could fit well in Conference Indiana. Adding those two schools would either save the conference or be the final step to kill it.  Ignoring geography, it would have made some sense.

Southport	2368
Columbus North	2267
Harrison	2169
McCutcheon	1786
Bloomington South	1656
Terre Haute South	1609
Bloomington North	1558
Terre Haute North	1467

I think Southport wants to be in the MIC, and maybe Columbus North goes with them to get in together.  Columbus could join the Hoosier Hills instead if they can be in the same conference as Columbus East.  Not sure what the Bloomington schools do. Maybe try to get into the Mid-State or Hoosier Hills.  The Terre Haute schools would fill in the enrollment gap between the members of the Sagamore if they joined (along with West Lafayette).

Harrison	2169
McCutcheon	1786
Terre Haute South	1609
Terre Haute North	1467
Lebanon	1033
Danville	820
West Lafayette	750
Tri-West	606

5 hours ago, superjay said:

Expanded Indiana Crossroads will be the final spot for TW.  10 team league split into big/small school. Danville and Lebanon will double the size of TW in the next 10 years.  Danville will eventually end up in the Mid-State.  Lebanon, who knows.

ICC Big School- Tri-West, Beech Grove, Monrovia, Speedway, Indian Creek

ICC Small School-  Triton Central, Lutheran, Scecina, Ritter, Covenant Christian

I don’t see it happening, but if it did, go a step further and make it 14 schools. Split them into private and public divisions with a crossover/playoff in week 9.  That gives all teams a 7-game conference schedule and still leaves 2 weeks open for non-conference games.

ICC Private: Heritage Christian, Cardinal Ritter, Scecina, Park Tudor, Covenant Christian, Lutheran, Greenwood Christian

ICC Public: Beech Grove, Danville, Indian Creek, Tri-West, Speedway, Monrovia, Triton Central

2 hours ago, foxbat said:

Not a bad move given the circumstances and (lack of) options.  Harrison has already played Tri-West in the undercard games, so there's some activity already there.  Given about three additional slots to fill, it may provide some addition interest from others to round that out.  Still provides Harrison the ability to pick up an additional five games out of conference right now which they will need to help them compete in their move to 6A.  They will be facing West Lafayette this year for a third consecutive season and that has to be a benefit for both in terms of having an extra "home" game even if if they are away.  They may still put Jeff on their schedule too, which both teams need, but frankly given that Jeff voted Harrison out of the NCC, I'd almost like to see Harrison find another 6A opponent to scratch that itch; especially if West Lafayette will be a continued opponent locally.  Harrison also has Brebeuf this next season which is also a nice pick-up.  Don't know if that's just going to be a home-and-home, but would be interesting to see if that evolves.  Harrison has actually played several of the Catholic schools on undercards including Chatard and Cathedral as well as now getting Brebeuf and playing Roncalli in the past as a varsity fill-in game during COVID.  Those schools aren't going to leave the Circle City, but as non-con games for Harrison, they would be nice matches.

I mentioned on another site that I could see West Lafayette entertaining the possibility of moving to the Sagamore to be a 6th member. Doing so would then put the Hoosier Conference at 8 members.  West Side would still have room in their schedule to keep Central Catholic and at least 1 more rival from the Hoosier, plus potentially get Lafayette Jeff back on the schedule.  They fit competitively in the Sagamore and the natural rivalries with Harrison and McCutcheon would make it worth considering a move.  Here’s an example of what the opponents could look like for Harrison, McCutcheon, West Side, and Jeff.  I listed non-conference opponents first, but these aren’t necessarily in order since this is definitely hypothetical.

Harrison

Plainfield

Brebeuf

Lafayette Jeff

Kokomo

West Lafayette

McCutcheon

Lebanon

Tri-West

Danville

 

McCutcheon

Guerin Catholic

Kokomo

Terre Haute South

Lafayette Jeff

West Lafayette

Lebanon

Tri-West

Danville

Harrison

 

West Lafayette (Sagamore)

Central Catholic

Rensselaer Central

Twin Lakes

Lafayette Jeff

Lebanon

Tri-West

Danville

Harrison

McCutcheon

 

Lafayette Jeff

Cathedral

West Lafayette

Harrison

McCutcheon

Kokomo

Marion

Muncie Central

Anderson

Richmond

9 hours ago, Coach DeSpain said:

I get that.. The way I read that was you were saying they are eligible this year.  I wasn't sure if there was a special rule since a couple of those teams participated in 8 man before going to 11 man.

Honestly, I am not sure about the tournament eligibility for the teams that played a season of 8 man football.  Since these schools have already been IHSAA members and competed in state tournaments in other sports, I am not sure what the bylaws state about their eligibility to play in the 11 man football tournament.

4 hours ago, Coach DeSpain said:

 

I may have missed something, but I thought  Indianapolis Irvington, Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian, Lafayette Faith Christian had one more full season until they become tournament eligible? Unless the 8 man season counted for them... I know GCA is eligible for the tournament this year. 

Even if those schools have another season before they are eligible, they need to be included in the alignments since they will be eligible for the second year of the cycle.

3 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

I was unaware that had changed. 

In that case, Cathedral will drop to 5A, not 4A and Memorial will go to 3A. 

Cathedral won a regional in 2022 and a sectional in 2023.  They will stay in 6A.  Lafayette Central Catholic will also stay up a class. They earned 3 points from a sectional in 2022 and regional in 2023.

1 hour ago, crimsonace1 said:

Per IHSAA, they gained two points last cycle while playing in a higher class, so they should stay up. 

https://www.ihsaa.org/sites/default/files/documents/Football TSF 2022-23 2023-24.pdf

The success factor bylaw has changed.  3 points are now required for a team to stay up.  Memorial earned 2 points, so they will return to 3A.

18 minutes ago, qbcoach13 said:

6A
1	Carmel	5200
2	Ben Davis	4567
3	Warren Central	3748
4	Fishers	3664
5	North Central (Indpls.)	3616
6	Penn	3480
7	Avon	3476
8	Hamilton Southeastern	3442
9	Franklin Central	3362
10	Brownsburg	3297
11	Noblesville	3208
12	Pike	3192
13	Elkhart	3166
14	Crown Point	2978
15	Lake Central	2961
16	Center Grove	2893
17	Lawrence North	2817
18	Westfield	2789
19	Carroll (Fort Wayne)	2569
20	Indianapolis Arsenal Tech	2500
21	Homestead	2408
22	Lawrence Central	2404
23	Southport	2368
24	Perry Meridian	2359
25	Zionsville	2309
26	Columbus North	2267
27	Portage	2170
28	Harrison (West Lafayette)	2169
29	Fort Wayne Northrop	2158
30	Jeffersonville	2141
31	Fort Wayne Snider	1915
32	Indianapolis Cathedral	1172
5A
1	Valparaiso	2140
2	Warsaw	2108
3	Whiteland	2074
4	South Bend Adams	2062
5	Decatur Central	2050
6	Merrillville	2050
7	Lafayette Jefferson	2034
8	Goshen	2006
9	Chesterton	1980
10	Castle	1965
11	Hammond Central	1923
12	Floyd Central	1823
13	New Albany	1814
14	LaPorte	1812
15	McCutcheon	1786
16	Plainfield	1773
17	Evansville North	1751
18	Concord	1730
19	Anderson	1722
20	Seymour	1719
21	Bloomington South	1681
22	Terre Haute South	1609
23	Franklin Community	1590
24	Bloomington North	1589
25	Hammond Morton	1534
26	Michigan City	1520
27	Columbus East	1518
28	Munster	1514
29	Terre Haute North	1467
30	Kokomo	1465
31	Fort Wayne North Side	1460
32	East Central	1241
4A
1	Fort Wayne South Side	1459
2	Mt Vernon (Fortville)	1455
3	Greenfield-Central	1430
4	Mishawaka	1422
5	Fort Wayne Wayne	1416
6	Mooresville	1398
7	Northridge	1393
8	Huntington North	1382
9	Evansville Reitz	1378
10	Pendleton Heights	1353
11	Muncie Central	1332
12	Richmond	1320
13	Martinsville	1315
14	Hobart	1298
15	South Bend Riley	1298
16	Evansville Harrison	1293
17	Bedford-North Lawrence	1242
18	Logansport	1226
19	Greenwood	1211
20	New Palestine	1209
21	Indianapolis Crispus Attucks	1170
22	Jennings County	1169
23	Columbia City	1162
24	Indianapolis Shortridge	1159
25	Evansville Central	1131
26	Shelbyville	1093
27	Jasper	1092
28	Indianapolis Roncalli	1082
29	New Haven	1068
30	Plymouth	1054
31	Marion	1045
32	DeKalb	1044
33	Lebanon	1033
34	East Chicago Central	1009
35	Gary West Side	995
36	East Noble	989
37	Kankakee Valley	989
38	Lowell	985
39	Highland	977
40	New Prairie	970
41	Silver Creek	943
42	Connersville	930
43	Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger	917
44	Frankfort	901
45	Leo	900
46	Wawasee	895
47	Northview	894
48	Beech Grove	892
49	South Bend Washington	886
50	Boonville	884
51	NorthWood	869
52	Evansville Bosse	863
53	Charlestown	854
54	South Bend Saint Joseph	849
55	Culver Academies	832
56	Brebeuf Jesuit	829
57	New Castle	824
58	Danville	820
59	Hanover Central	817
60	Yorktown	812
61	Washington	810
62	Guerin Catholic	800
63	Jay County	800
64	Indianapolis Bishop Chatard	730
3A
1	Delta	798
2	Western	791
3	Mississinewa	783
4	Gibson Southern	771
5	Edgewood	761
6	Madison	760
7	Corydon Central	754
8	West Lafayette	750
9	Norwell	745
10	Angola	741
11	Mishawaka Marian	735
12	Lawrenceburg	726
13	Scottsburg	726
14	West Noble	718
15	Vincennes Lincoln	711
16	Crawfordsville	710
17	Hamilton Heights	687
18	Batesville	670
19	Twin Lakes	663
20	Greensburg	662
21	Franklin County	650
22	Owen Valley	650
23	Rushville	645
24	South Dearborn	645
25	Griffith	637
26	Indian Creek	636
27	Heritage Hills	635
28	John Glenn	633
29	North Harrison	629
30	Fort Wayne Concordia	623
31	Evansville Memorial	617
32	Hammond Bishop Noll	617
33	Indianapolis Washington	617
34	Heritage	616
35	Calumet	611
36	Bellmont	610
37	Tri-West	606
38	Maconaquah	604
39	Princeton	600
40	Peru	588
41	Purdue Polytechnic Downtown	578
42	Southridge	576
43	Mount Vernon (Posey)	574
44	Speedway	571
45	Fairfield	570
46	River Forest	567
47	Garrett	556
48	Northwestern	554
49	Cascade	546
50	Tippecanoe Valley	543
51	Lakeland	540
52	Jimtown	538
53	Oak Hill	538
54	Fort Wayne Bishop Luers	532
55	Frankton	531
56	Evansville Mater Dei	520
57	Knox	520
58	West Vigo	518
59	Woodlan	518
60	Benton Central	513
61	North Montgomery	513
62	Western Boone	513
63	Centerville	512
2A
1	Bluffton	507
2	Heritage Christian	507
3	Monrovia	503
4	Sullivan	503
5	Eastbrook	501
6	Eastern (Greentown)	499
7	Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter	498
8	Greencastle	495
9	Salem	494
10	Wabash	492
11	Blackford	490
12	Brown County	488
13	Manchester	475
14	Pike Central	474
15	Rochester	473
16	Bremen	471
17	Brownstown Central	469
18	Alexandria	468
19	South Vermillion	468
20	Triton Central	468
21	Boone Grove	466
22	Lapel	466
23	Switzerland County	464
24	Andrean	455
25	Tipton	454
26	Southmont	453
27	Indianapolis Scecina	448
28	Rensselaer Central	447
29	North Posey	442
30	North Putnam	432
31	Mitchell	430
32	Northeastern	423
33	Whiting	422
34	Prairie Heights	421
35	Park Tudor	421
36	Christel House Manual	420
37	Delphi	417
38	Wheeler	417
39	Elwood	410
40	Winchester	408
41	Adams Central	408
42	Tell City	403
43	Shenandoah	400
44	Paoli	396
45	Lake Station Edison	391
46	Union County	391
47	Eastern (Pekin)	389
48	Lewis Cass	389
49	Whitko	389
50	Linton-Stockton	387
51	Seeger	386
52	Central Noble	385
53	Clarksville	385
54	Eastside	384
55	Covenant Christian (Indpls.)	383
56	Crawford County	379
57	Churubusco	378
58	Eastern Hancock	377
59	Perry Central	377
60	LaVille	373
61	Providence	371
62	Taylor	366
63	Lafayette Central Catholic	302
64	Indianapolis Lutheran	267
1A
1	South Putnam	363
2	Winamac	360
3	South Adams	357
4	Parke Heritage	354
5	Forest Park	353
6	Hagerstown	352
7	South Spencer	352
8	Eastern Greene	351
9	North Knox	349
10	Madison-Grant	336
11	Sheridan	336
12	Clinton Prairie	327
13	Carroll (Flora)	321
14	Riverton Parke	320
15	North Newton	319
16	South Central (Union Mills)	318
17	Knightstown	316
18	Milan	315
19	North Decatur	314
20	North Judson	308
21	Monroe Central	301
22	Northfield	296
23	Fountain Central	289
24	Anderson Prep Academy	288
25	Pioneer	286
26	Tecumseh	286
27	Cloverdale	283
28	Fremont	283
29	Covington	281
30	Bowman Academy	277
31	West Washington	277
32	Triton	274
33	North Daviess	273
34	Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian	270
35	Clinton Central	268
36	Springs Valley	266
37	South Decatur	265
38	North White	264
39	North Miami	263
40	Southwood	263
41	North Central (Farmersburg)	257
42	Tri	256
43	Southern Wells	252
44	Wes-Del	248
45	Culver	246
46	Union City	244
47	Caston	241
48	South Newton	241
49	Cambridge City Lincoln	234
50	Tri Central	232
51	Edinburgh	227
52	Greenwood Christian	222
53	Tri-County	220
54	North Vermillion	218
55	West Central	209
56	Indianapolis Tindley	202
57	Frontier	180
58	Attica	160

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/1/viewer?mid=1tvJ-o3tt6pEhP9Vf6JfHXRZGG-vN7t0&ll=39.3383701119461%2C-86.16276402831404&z=8

 

I had some similar class splits, but I hope 1A is the largest class.  1A schools are the most likely to not finish a season due to numbers or to drop their football program.  I think 1A should always start with 64 teams.  The classes with the largest enrollments have the smallest number of schools, so it would make sense in my opinion for 1A and 2A to have the largest number of schools.

19 minutes ago, WWFan said:

Looked back at some Mitchell numbers here is what I found

19-20/20-21

9th-119

10th-109

11th-121

12th-113.      Total-462

22-23/23-24

9th-126

10th-117

11th- 110

12th-100.   Total-453

24-25/25-26

9th-29

10th-39

11th-84

12th-60.   Total-212

 

Now I know I sold my house in mitchell back in August but I dont have that many damn kids. It's hard to see that big of a fall off. Thats 57 kids leaving from 10th grade to now 12th in 2 years. I'm sure a couple of bottom 2A teams (Perry Central) would like a recount at couple of schools. Haha

There was an error in the reporting data. The IHSAA still didn’t catch it on the original document they shared, but it has now been corrected.  They have an enrollment of 430.  Rochester has also been corrected.

https://www.ihsaa.org/sites/default/files/documents/2024-25 2025-26 Enrollments.pdf

4 hours ago, JQWL said:

I do not know the answer to this question. I know a friend of mine who is currently a high school principal and was formerly an athletic director has tried multiple times to get on this committee and has never even heard back from anyone after he has sent an email. 

Same - I’ve asked an AD and principal at 2 different schools about it.  Both requested information about selection of committee members and neither got a reply.

 

1 hour ago, Robert said:

Cronyism

Certainly seems that way.

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Already well over 3000, no?

 

3 hours ago, Staxawax said:

So as part of the latest expansion of the soon to be 3,000 student HS Avon has added a state of the art training and weight lifting facility.  Folks around here think it will be a game changer for the football program.

 

Thoughts?

3476 students at Avon High School on the fall count day this year.  6th largest school in Indiana.

44 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Salem just approved turf for this coming school year. Has anyone else? Is there a Castle/Boonville update? 

In 2023- Greensburg, Franklin Co, Purdue Poly, Attucks and maybe others added it last year. 

Here is the breakdown of where the state currently is.. (or VERY close)

155/313= 49.5% currently have turf

149/313= 47.6% currently do not have tuf

couple of others don't have their own field/not sure where Tindley plays.

Angola, Washington, Boone Grove, and South Adams all added turf in 2023.

1 hour ago, jets said:

 

That's why I asked Coach Nowlin ....figured he had boots on the ground with an explanation

Yes, @Coach Nowlin would definitely be a go to source.  Just thought some data and the possible correlation to the closure of St. Joe would be relevant to share.

10 hours ago, Punttheball said:

I think they found out they were at the wrong central and moved to Adams Central.

 

In all seriousness, I think it was a large migrant worker population that was added to the schools ADM in the fall of the count year.  

 

On 1/18/2024 at 11:49 AM, Coach Nowlin said:

speaking of 2 year difference:  Rensselaer in last count 527, Rensselaer this count 447 

 

22 hours ago, jets said:

What on earth happened to lose that many students??

The closure of St. Joseph’s College is probably a factor as well.  Here is the enrollment trend over the last 15 years for Rensselaer Central.  St. Joe closed in 2017.

2009 - 556

2010 - 570

2011 - 538

2012 - 536

2013 - 523

2014 - 553

2015 - 534

2016 - 531

2017 - 498

2018 - 498

2019 - 515

2020 - 494

2021 - 521

2022 - 468

2023 - 447

A few corrections I need to make - autocorrect seemed to get a couple of the nicknames I posted. I also messed up and listed University as the Blazers instead of Trailblazers.

Lake Central Indians

Shoals Jug Rox

University Trailblazers

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15 hours ago, ASJCPUMA said:

Is there a list of all of the high schools nicknames in the State of Indiana anyone know about?
Thanks for the help

Adams Central Flying Jets

Alexandria Tigers

Anderson Indians

Anderson Prep Academy Jets

Andrean 59ers

Angola Hornets

Argos Dragons

Attica Red Ramblers

Austin Eagles

Avon Orioles

Barr Reeve Vikings

Batesville Bulldogs

Bedford-North Lawrence Stars

Beech Grove Hornets

Bellmont Braves

Ben Davis Giants

Benton Central Bison

Bethany Christian Bruins

Bethesda Christian Patriots

Blackford Bruins

Bloomfield Cardinals

Bloomington Lighthouse Christian Lions

Bloomington North Cougars

Bloomington South Panthers

Blue River Valley Vikings

Bluffton Tigers

Boone Grove Wolves

Boonville Pioneers

Borden Braves

Bowman Academy Eagles

Brebeuf Jesuit Braves

Bremen Lions

Brown County Eagles

Brownsburg Bulldogs

Brownstown Central Braves

Calumet Warriors

Cambridge City Lincoln Golden Eagles

Cannelton Bulldogs

Carmel Greyhounds

Carroll (Flora) Cougars

Carroll (Fort Wayne) Chargers

Cascade Cadets

Castle Knights

Caston Comets

Center Grove Trojans

Centerville Bulldogs

Central Christian Academy Chargers

Central Noble Cougars

Charlestown Pirates

Chesterton Trojans

Christel House Manual Eagles

Christian Academy Warriors

Churubusco Eagles

Clarksville Generals

Clay City Eels

Clinton Central Bulldogs

Clinton Prairie Gophers

Cloverdale Clovers

Columbia City Eagles

Columbus East Olympians

Columbus North Bulldogs

Concord Minutemen

Connersville Spartans

Corydon Central Panthers

Covenant Christian (Indpls.) Warriors

Covington Trojans

Cowan Blackhawks

Crawford County Wolfpack

Crawfordsville Athenians

Crothersville Tigers

Crown Point Bulldogs

Culver Cavaliers

Culver Academies Eagles

Daleville Broncos

Danville Warriors

Decatur Central Hawks

DeKalb Barons

Delphi Oracles

Delta Eagles

DeMotte Christian Knights

Dugger Union Bulldogs

East Central Trojans

East Chicago Central Cardinals

East Noble Knights

Eastbrook Panthers

Eastern (Greentown) Comets

Eastern (Pekin) Musketeers

Eastern Greene Thunderbirds

Eastern Hancock Royals

Eastside Blazers

Edgewood Mustangs

Edinburgh Lancers

Elkhart Lions

Elkhart Christian Eagles

Elwood Panthers

Eminence Eels

Evansville Bosse Bulldogs

Evansville Central Bears

Evansville Christian Eagles

Evansville Day Eagles

Evansville Harrison Warriors

Evansville Mater Dei Wildcats

Evansville Memorial Tigers

Evansville North Huskies

Evansville Reitz Panthers

Fairfield Falcons

Faith Christian Eagles

Fishers Tigers

Floyd Central Highlanders

Forest Park Rangers

Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger Saints

Fort Wayne Bishop Luers Knights

Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian Braves

Fort Wayne Canterbury Cavaliers

Fort Wayne Concordia Cadets

Fort Wayne North Side Legends

Fort Wayne Northrop Bruins

Fort Wayne Snider Panthers

Fort Wayne South Side Archers

Fort Wayne Wayne Generals

Fountain Central Mustangs

Frankfort Hot Dogs

Franklin Central Flashes

Franklin Community Grizzly Cubs

Franklin County Wildcats

Frankton Eagles

Fremont Eagles

Frontier Falcons

Garrett Railroaders

Gary 21st Century Cougars

Gary Lighthouse CPA Lions

Gary West Side Cougars

GEO Next Generation Eagles

Gibson Southern Titans

Goshen Redhawks

Greencastle Tiger Cubs

Greenfield-Central Cougars

Greensburg Pirates

Greenwood Woodmen

Greenwood Christian Cougars

Griffith Panthers

Guerin Catholic Golden Eagles

Hagerstown Tigers

Hamilton Marines

Hamilton Heights Huskies

Hamilton Southeastern Royals

Hammond Academy of Science & Tech Hawks

Hammond Bishop Noll Warriors

Hammond Central Wolves

Hammond Morton Governors

Hanover Central Wildcats

Harrison (West Lafayette) Raiders

Hauser Jets

Hebron Hawks

Henryville Hornets

Heritage Patriots

Heritage Christian Eagles

Heritage Hills Patriots

Highland Trojans

Hobart Brickies

Homestead Spartans

Huntington North Vikings

Illiana Christian Vikings

Indian Creek Braves

Indiana Deaf Orioles

Indiana Math & Science Knights

Indianapolis Arsenal Tech Titans

Indianapolis Bishop Chatard Trojans

Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter Raiders

Indianapolis Cathedral Fighting Irish

Indianapolis Crispus Attucks Tigers

Indianapolis Herron Achaeans

Indianapolis International Gryphons

Indianapolis Irvington Ravens

Indianapolis Lutheran Saints

Indianapolis Metropolitan Pumas

Indianapolis Riverside Argonauts

Indianapolis Roncalli Royals

Indianapolis Scecina Crusaders

Indianapolis Shortridge Blue Devils

Indianapolis Tindley Tigers

Indianapolis Washington Continentals

Jac-Cen-Del Eagles

Jasper Wildcats

Jay County Patriots

Jeffersonville Red Devils

Jennings County Panthers

Jimtown Jimmies

John Glenn Falcons

Kankakee Valley Kougars

KIPP Indy Legacy Pride

Knightstown Panthers

Knox Redskins

Kokomo Wildkats

Kouts Mustangs

Lafayette Central Catholic Knights

Lafayette Jefferson Bronchos

Lake Central Indiana

Lake Station Edison Fighting Eagles

Lakeland Lakers

Lakeland Christian Cougars

Lakewood Park Christian Panthers

Lanesville Eagles

Lapel Bulldogs

LaPorte Slicers

LaVille Lancers

Lawrence Central Bears

Lawrence North Wildcats

Lawrenceburg Tigers

Lebanon Tigers

Leo Lions

Lewis Cass Kings

Liberty Christian Lions

Linton-Stockton Miners

Logansport Berries

Loogootee Lions

Lowell Red Devils

Maconaquah Braves

Madison Cubs

Madison-Grant Argylls

Manchester Squires

Marion Giants

Marquette Catholic Blazers

Martinsville Artesians

McCutcheon Mavericks

Medora Hornets

Merrillville Pirates

Michigan City Wolves

Milan Indians

Mishawaka Cavemen

Mishawaka Marian Knights

Mississinewa Indians

Mitchell Blue Jackets

Monroe Central Golden Bears

Monrovia Bulldogs

Mooresville Pioneers

Mooresville Christian Eagles

Morgan Township Cherokees

Morristown Yellow Jackets

Mount Vernon (Posey) Wildcats

Mt Vernon (Fortville) Marauders

MTI School of Knowledge Phoenix

Muncie Burris Owls

Muncie Central Bearcats

Munster Mustangs

New Albany Bulldogs

New Castle Trojans

New Haven Bulldogs

New Palestine Dragons

New Prairie Cougars

New Washington Mustangs

Noblesville Millers

North Central (Farmersburg) Thunderbirds

North Central (Indpls.) Panthers

North Daviess Cougars

North Decatur Chargers

North Harrison Cougars

North Judson Blue Jays

North Knox Warriors

North Miami Warriors

North Montgomery Chargers

North Newton Spartans

North Posey Vikings

North Putnam Cougars

North Vermillion Falcons

North White Vikings

Northeast Dubois Jeeps

Northeastern Knights

Northfield Norsemen

Northridge Raiders

Northview Knights

Northwestern Tigers

NorthWood Panthers

Norwell Knights

Oak Hill Golden Eagles

Oldenburg Academy Twisters

Oregon-Davis Bobcats

Orleans Bulldogs

Owen Valley Patriots

Paoli Rams

Park Tudor Panthers

Parke Heritage Wolves

Pendleton Heights Arabians

Penn Kingsmen

Perry Central Commodores

Perry Meridian Falcons

Peru Tigers

Pike Red Devils

Pike Central Chargers

Pioneer Panthers

Plainfield Quakers

Plymouth Pilgrims

Portage Indians

Prairie Heights Panthers

Princeton Tigers

Providence Pioneers

Providence Cristo Rey Wolves

Purdue Polytechnic Broad Ripple Lynx

Purdue Polytechnic Englewood Techies

Randolph Southern Rebels

Rensselaer Central Bombers

Richmond Red Devils

Rising Sun Shiners

River Forest Ingots

Riverton Parke Panthers

Rochester Zebras

Rock Creek Academy Lions

Rossville Hornets

Rushville Lions

Salem Lions

Scottsburg Warriors

Seeger Patriots

Seton Catholic Cardinals

Seven Oaks Classical Firehawks

Seymour Owls

Shakamak Lakers

Shawe Memorial Hilltoppers

Shelbyville Golden Bears

Shenandoah Raiders

Sheridan Blackhawks

Shoals Jug Rod

Silver Creek Dragons

Smith Academy Fighting 54th

South Adams Starfires

South Bend Adams Eagles

South Bend Career Academy Trailblazers

South Bend Clay Colonials

South Bend Riley Wildcats

South Bend Saint Joseph (no nickname)

South Bend Washington Panthers

South Central (Elizabeth) Rebels

South Central (Union Mills) Satellites

South Dearborn Knights

South Decatur Cougars

South Knox Spartans

South Newton Rebels

South Putnam Eagles

South Ripley Raiders

South Spencer Rebels

South Vermillion Wildcats

Southern Wells Raiders

Southmont Mounties

Southport Cardinals

Southridge Raiders

Southwestern (Hanover) Rebels

Southwestern (Shelby) Spartans

Southwood Knights

Speedway Sparkplugs

Springs Valley Blackhawks

Steel City Academy Flames

Sullivan Golden Arrows

Switzerland County Pacers

Taylor Titans

Tecumseh Braves

Tell City Marksmen

Terre Haute North Patriots

Terre Haute South Braves

Tippecanoe Valley Vikings

Tipton Blue Devils

Traders Point Christian Knights

Tri Titans

Tri Central Trojans

Tri-County Cavaliers

Tri-Township Tigers

Tri-West Bruins

Trinity Lutheran Cougars

Trinity School at Greenlawn Titans

Triton Trojans

Triton Central Tigers

Twin Lakes Indians

Union (Modoc) Rockets

Union City Indians

Union County Patriots

University Blazers

Valparaiso Vikings

Victory College Prep Academy Firehawks

Vincennes Lincoln Alice's

Vincennes Rivet Patriots

Wabash Apaches

Waldron Mohawks

Wapahani Raiders

Warren Central Warriors

Warsaw Tigers

Washington Hatchets

Washington Catholic Cardinals

Washington Township Senators

Wawasee Warriors

Wes-Del Warriors

West Central Trojans

West Lafayette Red Devils

West Noble Chargers

West Vigo Vikings

West Washington Senators

Western Panthers

Western Boone Stars

Westfield Shamrocks

Westview Warriors

Westville Blackhawks

Wheeler Bearcats

White River Valley Wolverines

Whiteland Warriors

Whiting Oilers

Whitko Wildcats

Winamac Warriors

Winchester Golden Falcons

Wood Memorial Trojans

Woodlan Warriors

Yorktown Tigers

Zionsville Eagles

3 hours ago, foxbat said:

Will that be enough to put RCHS back down in 2A?

Yes. They should be right in the middle of 2A enrollments.