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10 hours ago, Bobref said:

I notice you list your school affiliation as Lewis Cass. How can you live with yourself? Their nickname is the Kings. Escaping from monarchical rule is the principle on which this country was founded. It is the opposite of what this country stands for. It’s also blatantly sexist, implicitly approving a male-dominated government structure, and elitist. The use of “Kings” offends me ... and all right-thinking people. Shameful.

My post was TIC, incase your flip-off emoji wasn't. I was goofing around.

2 hours ago, Bobref said:

I notice you list your school affiliation as Lewis Cass. How can you live with yourself? Their nickname is the Kings. Escaping from monarchical rule is the principle on which this country was founded. It is the opposite of what this country stands for. It’s also blatantly sexist, implicitly approving a male-dominated government structure, and elitist. The use of “Kings” offends me ... and all right-thinking people. Shameful.

I notice that your name is Bob. Bob is a typical male name in English speaking countries. Females have been repressed in America to the point that there hasn't been a female president. As a male, you are part of the problem and offend me. Change your name at once! 😄

On 6/14/2020 at 1:18 AM, TheStatGuy said:

I think any school in Indiana with the name Rebel or Redskin should change their name.  Just my thoughts. 

I'm fine with "Rebels" as long as it has nothing to do with a soldier or the Confederacy. Redskin is too racist for my tastes.

16 hours ago, NE8Fan said:

1 Cass

2 Pioneer

3 Eastbrook

4 Western Boone

5 Andrean 

Cass loses a ton from last year, although their coaching staff is very solid.

I purposely planned my annual vacation, for 3 weeks in March, so I could stay home and watch the NCAA tournament. Instead I ended up stuck with a 5th grader who didn't want to do e-learning. 

I restarted my eBay business selling sports jerseys and T-Shirts and I scratched the sports itch a bit by catching up on two seasons of Battlebots. I also helped my wife in the garden quite a bit.

7 hours ago, CoachSnyder said:

Caston needs to go back to the Midwest Conference where they were competitive.  

Caston and Pioneer not being in the same conference would just feel weird, plus Caston is typically at least competitive with Pioneer in other sports. Caston also has a soccer program, which might make them an odd fit in the MWC.

9 hours ago, DT said:

And it stil looks bad

If there weren't vast personal ties attached to his decision, I would agree with you, but I can't fault a man for following his family, especially in the latter parts of his career. Some career opportunities come up only once and a person has to take advantage and not struggle with "what-ifs" for the rest of their life.

This gives Coach H the chance to reunite with his Warrior family and gives him a short drive from home. Radtke can now be closer to his family as well.

It also beefs up the HNAC into a potential small school powerhouse conference, with Pioneer, LaVille, Knox, Winamac, and North Judson all looking to have some strong teams in the upcoming years. The HNAC is looking to be a slugfest at the top.

15 hours ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

He started the champ club too.

Its sad .. Parents at Winamac want to beat Pioneer bad but Winamac parents won't let their kids get coached or attend weight lifting sessions in morning. 

The champ club is what I was referring to.

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Didn't long time successful coach Tim Roth be one to have built the foundation of the program?  

 

Congrats to Coach Hendryx and welcome him back to Region 4    

Yes he did, but Coach Barr raised the bar, no pun intended, by adding a weight lifting program using a phone app. It was in the local papers and I liked the idea.

Barr's actual overall record is something like 111-100. He won 5 sectionals and 2 state titles at Chatard.

18 minutes ago, DT said:

Is it fair to say that the Winamac people were frustrated and disappointed with 3 consecutive 5-6 seasons and general lack of overall program improvement following the ultra successful Roth regime?

Coach Barr has a career record of 57-80, including stops at football powerhouses Bishop Chatard and Winamac.  

Craig Barr record
Year	School	Won	Lost	Title
1994	Indianapolis Chatard	6	4
1995	Indianapolis Chatard	8	4	sectional
2002	Noblesville	4	6
2003	Noblesville	3	8
2004	Noblesville	1	9
2005	Noblesville	3	7
2006	Noblesville	5	5
2007	Noblesville	5	6
2013	Madison-Grant	3	7
2014	Madison-Grant	4	6
2017	Winamac	5	6
2018	Winamac	5	6
2019	Winamac	5	6

The problem was that some parents didn't want Barr leading the program from day 1. His hiring cleared by 1 school board vote. His firing was mostly political.

Everyone involved with the program knew that the last three years would be tough. This upcoming season was supposed to be bright. I've heard from sources that Barr had made major strides in building the foundation of the program as well and I heard nothing but positive things outside of disgruntled parents whose kids weren't playing enough and etc.

Barr was the head coach at Chatard when they won two state titles, 9 years overall. His record is not 57-80, it is much better, but for some reason Harrell's site doesn't list a coach for several of the years that he coached there.

On 4/28/2020 at 10:36 AM, Coach Nowlin said:

Eddie Jackson was picked by the Bears in the 4th round from Alabama coming off losing SR due to knee injury....  

He is working out alright  

I'm a fan of using later round picks on first or second round talents. Jaylon Smith (2nd round) and Marcus Cannon (5th round) are good examples of players who persevered.

11 hours ago, DT said:

Unbelievable.  You Snowflakes are too shy to talk about anything around here anymore.  Everything is off limits.  No one is allowed to be offended.  We live in perfect utopia here on The GID.  This place has become unworthy of my contributions.  I'll take my talents elsewhere.

Thank God. Your hatred for Purdue has been well documented in asinine topics such as this. At least you can count on Muda for an upvote.

22 hours ago, DT said:

Karlaftis looked exactly like what he was in 2019.  A young freshman playing with older men.  Lets see how he develops.  

Karlaftis tied for the team lead with 7.5 sacks, led the team in hurries and TFL, and was named a Freshman All American. Sounds like a stud to me.

On 4/1/2020 at 9:08 AM, DT said:

Offense, defense and special teams.  Football is not football without all 3.

Many coaches turn over the defense to inexperienced assistants and put all their best athletic talent on the offensive side of the ball.

Kliff Kingsbury

Mike Leach

Hal Mumme

Sonny Dykes

Lincoln Riley

Jeff Brohm

The list is endless

 

 

 

That's not tackle  football.  Thats flag football

 

Jeff Brohm has George Karlaftis who is a future NFL player and a five star recruit out of high school. 

7 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

So you want a utopia. 

 

If the resources being used by the dropped sport are redirected to other activities then it is a win.

 

We all should want utopia. It's not possible to be perfect, but why not try to get close?

I agree, but only if the resources are used for academics. Otherwise I prefer seeing more students get the opportunity to play a sport.

7 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Frankly you are a fool if you don't believe education is a business, and should be able to respond to market forces like virtually every other business.  

And the GID is primarily entertainment, would't you agree?

 

Schools dropping sports in the name of competitiveness doesn't entertain me very much.

7 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Frankly you are a fool if you don't believe education is a business, and should be able to respond to market forces like virtually every other business.  

And the GID is primarily entertainment, would't you agree?

 

It is a business. I simply believe that it shouldn't be. Every person deserves to be educated to their highest potential and money shouldn't be an obstacle.

9 hours ago, Bobref said:

These days, positive threads can be helpful. Describe the best play you ever saw at a high school game. It could have been an athletically superior play, a big play at a critical time, or just something that came unexpectedly out of the blue. Here’s mine:

It was the 2006 semistate, South Newton @ Sheridan, in the midst of Nick Zachery’s great run for the Blackhawks. Sheridan won the game comfortably, but South Newton’s terrific QB made it interesting for awhile. I believe he ended up the MVP of the North-South game the following summer. Zachery made a play during the game that I still have not seen equaled on a high school field. He was playing safety and a pass down the sideline was well overthrown. He went up over the receiver, with about a 40” vertical, caught the ball with one hand, and got a toe down inbounds before sprawling out on the track. One of the most remarkable plays I’ve ever seen at any level. I used to have a photo of it. I’ll see if I can find it.

2008 regional vs Pioneer, NZ fielded a punt at around midfield and took off toward a sideline. He then ran out of room and headed toward the opposite sideline and used his speed to evade several Panther defenders for a TD.

12 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

And you would be wrong.  But go ahead, keep believing that if it makes you feel better about yourself.

However I will celebrate when government gets out of the education business entirely.

 

Education and business don't belong in the same sentence.

You and DT have sure fooled me, with your hundreds of combined posts chronicling the potential demise of youth athletic programs, all in the name of your own entertainment.

I imagine that this is DT and Muda when a rural 1A school closes their football program. 

On 3/26/2020 at 2:53 PM, Muda69 said:

3.3 million seek US jobless aid, nearly 5 times earlier high: https://apnews.com/1bae3794481cc9d02fc670480cfcb800

A recession/depression 100% caused by local, state, and federal governments.  

 

The stock market was actually starting to drop before all of the COVID-19 pandemonium, due to the Russian/Saudi oil feud/war. Your claim is false. 

On 3/27/2020 at 11:49 AM, Muda69 said:

"Like me"?  Really Dante?  Please tell everyone about my daily movements over the last 2-3 weeks that would help spread this virus, assuming I have it in the first place.

And how telling you so nonchalantly approve of government tromping on our rights. 

Also "a plague".  Sounds like you have completely subscribed to the fear mongering perpetrated by the MSM. You can go ahead and keep on cowering in place in Las Vegas Dante, I choose to live my life differently.

 

When you quoted the constitutional right to public assembly, you are also enabling people to possibly do just that and that is dangerous in our current situation. 

1 hour ago, DT said:

All schools hilited in below chart should consider contraction option during this most difficult offseason. Revenues everywhere will be down and the cost of running a football program will grow to its highest percentage of athletic department funds available ever. ADs and admins should take into account recent records, competitiveness (point differential),  coaching turnover, roster size, status of feeder programs, levels of community support, and overall financial impact  Given the current events overtaking everyday life, public opposition to football contraction will be limited and greatly muted.   Now is the best time to make the move, giving go forward playing schools the opportunity to react and reschedule where possible.             CLASS 4A
CLASS RANK	STATE RANK	TEAM	OVERALL RATING	SCHEDULE STRENGTH RANK		RECENT RATING   RANK		PREDICTOR RATING   RANK
55	252	Gary West	19.50	35.21	213	18.87	251	20.22	252
56	264	South Bend Clay	15.44	50.66	115	15.39	262	15.23	262
57	275	Jay County	10.56	40.01	175	10.54	275	10.33	278
58	281	Shelbyville	9.43	62.08	67	9.46	279	9.07	281
59	283	Connersville	8.76	44.17	147	8.01	284	9.39	280
60	285	Madison	8.22	38.48	189	7.68	285	8.04	285
61	288	Frankfort	7.00	48.93	125	4.39	292	9.62	279
CLASS 3A
CLASS RANK	STATE RANK	TEAM	OVERALL RATING	SCHEDULE STRENGTH RANK		RECENT RATING   RANK		PREDICTOR RATING   RANK
58	280	Owen Valley	9.61	35.75	206	9.73	277	9.06	282
59	284	Benton Central	8.62	48.87	126	9.66	278	7.16	289
60	290	Indianapolis Manual	6.39	27.18	262	5.48	290	7.25	288
64	311	Pike Central	-8.69	31.24	243	-9.14	311	-8.42	310
CLASS 2A
CLASS RANK	STATE RANK	TEAM	OVERALL RATING	SCHEDULE STRENGTH RANK		RECENT RATING   RANK		PREDICTOR RATING   RANK
57	270	Prairie Heights	13.08	34.77	218	13.03	270	13.42	271
58	282	Whitko	8.79	34.23	222	6.20	289	11.30	274
59	287	Frankton	7.12	34.80	217	6.62	287	7.35	287
60	302	Union County	-1.05	18.87	293	-2.32	302	-0.17	299
61	308	Elwood	-6.69	36.13	204	-6.99	309	-6.73	307
62	309	Switzerland County	-7.01	4.02	318	-6.17	307	-8.65	311
63	317	Crawford County	-21.77	17.07	300	-20.82	317	-23.32	317
CLASS 1A
CLASS RANK	STATE RANK	TEAM	OVERALL RATING	SCHEDULE STRENGTH RANK		RECENT RATING   RANK		PREDICTOR RATING   RANK
40	277	Union City	9.99	19.26	289	9.03	282	10.70	276
41	278	Southern Wells	9.97	33.72	226	11.70	273	7.61	286
42	279	North White	9.87	5.56	317	11.81	271	8.55	284
43	286	Riverton Parke	7.26	29.92	251	8.63	283	5.21	294
44	289	Cloverdale	6.56	32.84	233	6.55	288	6.09	292
45	292	Clinton Central	5.81	21.71	282	4.33	294	6.76	290
46	295	Eastern Greene	3.49	30.53	248	4.34	293	2.34	296
47	296	Tecumseh	2.99	22.15	279	2.84	297	2.75	295
48	297	Cambridge City Lincoln	2.52	17.89	299	4.95	291	-1.06	302
49	298	Oldenburg Academy	2.19	8.19	315	3.42	296	0.17	298
50	299	Park Tudor	1.60	22.94	274	2.67	298	0.21	297
51	300	South Decatur	0.88	11.94	307	1.48	300	-0.28	300
56	306	Caston	-5.86	33.87	223	-7.34	310	-4.65	303
57	307	Taylor	-6.48	21.72	281	-4.79	304	-9.81	312
58	312	Edinburgh	-8.73	10.12	312	-10.69	312	-6.66	306
59	313	Tri-County	-13.19	12.29	305	-13.54	314	-12.87	314
60	314	Lake Station	-13.38	19.23	290	-11.30	313	-16.60	315
61	316	Gary Roosevelt	-17.45	18.79	294	-16.90	316	-18.34	316
62	318	South Newton	-23.72	11.80	309	-24.20	319	-23.44	318
63	320	Rock Creek Academy	-25.54	-7.71	320	-25.29	320	-25.81	320

So 20 1A teams should contract? Sounds like a bit much.

6 hours ago, DT said:

I'm watching CNBC again this evening and catching an interview with a small business owner who owns a vintage record and CD shop.

The owner has laid off most of his employees and is looking at the near term likelihood that he will need to shut down permanently without massive government infusion.

He claims the government proposal to disperse $2000 to all citizens will do nothing toward saving his business.  He says he needs help with rent and his general overall overhead.

I say let the business shut down and go away.

Suddenly, everybody is looking for a handout.  It appears that far too many businesses in this country do not have the capital to survive more than a few weeks without revenue.  Frankly, if that is all the financial backing you can afford, you should be working for someone else like Walmart or Amazon.

Democratic lawmakers are taking this opportunity to make a big push for student debt reduction.  So as a taxpayer, I am expected to bail out a deadbeat student who made horrific choices to major in underwater basket weaving at BillyBobs Online College for the Underprivileged.  And I am expected to step up and help cover Bubba's basic overhead so he can profitability run his hobby vintage record business.

No thanks.  We need massive contraction in the small business community.  Too many tattoo parlors.  Too many coffee shops.  Too many sub shops.  Too many vaping shops.  Too many gas station-convenience stores.  

The cannabis business found out very quickly about oversupply, and contracted just as fast as it started.

Most of these industries will soon follow the retail model where specialty undercapitalized retailers were wiped out and overtaken by the big guys.  Its a big guy world.  Time for the hobbyist  workers who don't want a corporate environment to get ready to leave their comfort zones.  Massive contraction is coming.

I'm preparing for the wave.

 

 

I've never seen someone want others to fail so much in my life.