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14 hours ago, itiswhatitis said:

It isn't just the Buckner and Rivers signings, they also signed AC to another 2 year contract.  That means Rivers will be playing behind one of the best O lines in the NFL.  I wouldn't make too much about the year Rivers had last year.  He played behind a crappy O line.  Look at the last 5 years and you'll see he's been one of the best.  Yes, Father Time catches up to all of us and he isn't the same player he was 8 - 10 years ago.  But I believe with this line and the scheme he will play in this year, will tell us IF he is really washed up or not.  If he has a second "bad" year, then we'll  know.  But as someone pointed out, he's on a one year deal so the Colts can walk away.  I have a feeling the Colts are going to make the playoffs and Rivers will get a one year extension.  One thing is for sure, Rivers will chuck it deep.  We didn't get that with Brissett.  I see the Colts drafting a QB this year to sit behind Rivers.  Personally, I am hoping it is Jalen Hurts.  I've been seeing a lot people wanting the Colts to draft Love (Utah State), but Hurts is faster (40 time in the combine) and can run the RPO just as well.  Plus Hurts has played for 2 big time programs in Alabama and Oklahoma.  He's played in plenty of big games and won a National Championship at 'Bama.  So in that regard, I feel he will be better prepared to transition to the NFL than a lot of the other QB's in the draft.  I didn't quite get cutting Desir.  But with Ballard, who knows?  No one saw the Buckner signing coming.

Desir was cut because he was a bit of a one hit wonder. He was a replacement level journeyman for several years who was cut a handful of times. He then got a chance in Indy and played well as a solid starter, so he was signed to a big contract. He then regressed last year, possibly due to injuries. I'm thinking that the staff must really believe in a younger guy like Ya-Sin to cut Desir.

13 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Because the vast, vast majority of them are government employees.  Public sector vs. private sector.

The government education edifice is not a free market system.

 

Ok, so give me some number for this huge boost?  25%? 50% 100%?

And where will these extra billions come from?

 

Well we can start with the 2.27 billion reserve that was in state coffers at the end of June last year, which was the end/start of the fiscal year.

There's also a SEVERE staff shortage in the Indiana Department of Corrections, but the state also refuses to do anything about that either. Seems to be a trend in this state.

Maybe they'll actually use some of that money to help with the Corona virus situation.

10 hours ago, Muda69 said:

So in other words you believe government schools should receive a huge boost in funding, and that government school teachers should receive a huge boost in salaries.   

 

Should have already happened.

46 minutes ago, globemstr3 said:

Ae ya all drinking the Coolaid? Sorta sounds like it sorry.

 

What does that mean?

6 hours ago, southend said:

Your words, 

 

So.,,... a professional football coach can’t be loyal. 

Not very many coaches are going to be loyal to a bottom-half Big Ten program when Alabama shows interest. 

11 minutes ago, AG said:

And that's what they're mostly getting, local in-state kids to bolster their roster. The Thieneman brothers, Alfred Armour, Zander Horvath, Aiden O'Connell, and Sam Garvin were all walk-ons who have contributed in the past two years, with five of them, save for AOC, being in-state players. The older Thieneman is an NFL practice squad player. 

These players are the building blocks for the program to potentially and hopefully rise to elite status. 

BTW, Purdue's roster was in such a disgustingly sorry state that they had no choice but to dip in for some local walk-ons.

And yes, it will take time for Purdue and IU to even occasionally win their divisions.

2 minutes ago, southend said:

Come on here? Indiana and Purdue ain’t ever in a hundred million years Going to get in the big three circle with these Indiana elite “marginal D1” athletes.  I know what your getting at ,but it takes years and years of landing 4and 5 star athletes. Starting with indiana high school kids. 

And that's what they're mostly getting, local in-state kids to bolster their roster. The Thieneman brothers, Alfred Armour, Zander Horvath, Aiden O'Connell, and Sam Garvin were all walk-ons who have contributed in the past two years, with five of them, save for AOC, being in-state players. The older Thieneman is an NFL practice squad player. 

These players are the building blocks for the program to potentially and hopefully rise to elite status. 

BTW, Purdue's roster was in such a disgustingly sorry state that they had no choice but to dip in for some local walk-ons.

11 hours ago, southend said:

Pretty selfish, for the health of indiana smaller colleges. 
me ,me ,me-era is here. 

It's not selfish, it's smart. These are fringe D1 college players with potential. Spegal, for example, was a 2* recruit and already had a D1 offer from Army, where he probably could've been a star. It's not like his only other offers were from Marian and Wabash.

Schools like IU and Purdue are trying to compete with the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. To do so, they have to be clever and use all of their resources.

2 hours ago, DT said:

I believe we read earlier in this thread that Coach Allen's intent is to follow the Nebraska model of the 70-95 period and "build" a sub roster of PWO players.   We could be looking at an expansion from 2 or 3 to possibly 20 or 30

How can that not have an impact on smaller in  state schools down the trough?

Aren't you a huge fan of contraction? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

23 hours ago, southend said:

Preferred walk on roster for Indiana University is bulging at the seams with Indiana kids. Depleting the available instate athletes for smaller state colleges and universities. including ,but not Limited to.other In state D1schools. Most of these kids will never see the light of day in their career at IU. whether Allen thinks he’s being generous or what. This is not a good thing. 

Purdue also has a decent number of PWOs who show potential during this recruiting cycle. It seems to be a bit of a trend and it's very smart. It's a great way to shore up depth and gives some athletes an opportunity to earn a scholarship.

Watching Mannering's Cass teams was always a treat. They were always well coached and they ran the Wing-T like a well oiled machine. Mannering liked to use a committee of backs, opposed to a workhorse or two. It was not uncommon in the box score to see that 10 or more players carried the ball. 

30 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Welp:   seems like Grad transfer followed a couple of his Colorado State coaches to TCU, and so it goes........  blood bath of recruiting 

Is that why he chose TCU? He probably should have said that on Twitter. Instead he blabbed on about how it is his "dream school," said God led him, and called it a business decision. Now he's being crucified on Twitter by Purdue fans. 

5 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Uncross Them 

 

 

 

I really like Storment. He shows a real nasty streak. Especially love the 4th highlight when he wallops the D-lineman from Arkansas. I get that this is a highlight tape and that only his best work is shown, but I like that most of his highlights are in pass protection. That bodes well for this offense. He also shows some good quickness on screens.

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

 

 

Fingers crossed we get TJ Storment tomorrow as well.

16 minutes ago, WolvesOnTheProwl said:

I quick glanced the article, is this any relation to Mike?

He's related to Mike Alstott and Anthony Spencer. Not sure on the specific relations.

I'm also hoping that his teammate, OL Zach Richards, picks Purdue soon as well. 

11 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Moorseville has 2 D1 OL this upcoming year:   One is related to both Alstott and Anthony Spencer:    He was offered late December:   

https://www.indianasportscoverage.com/2021-recruiting-purdue-legacy-jaelin-alstott-vandevanter-offensive-tackle/

 

 

Glad to have him as a boiler!

6 hours ago, Temptation said:

At least being in the conversation on a consistent basis… A lot of luck goes into becoming that final team standing but if you have not won one in the last two decades, you’re washed up.

Notre Dame has been in the conversation for the past decade.

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

@DT   updated composite rating 

https://247sports.com/Article/Walled-Lake-Western-receiver-Abdur-Rahmaan-Yaseen-flips-commitment-to-Jeff-Brohm-and-Purdue-Boilermakers-140731253/

 

This Yaseen kid looks like he's going to be a STUD. He had over 1600 receiving yards and 20 TDs as a senior as a deep ball threat.

Lots of people are complaining that Brohm is still signing WRs over linemen, but he's faced with losing Bell and Moore in the next two years, which makes this and the Carr signing tremendous.

On 12/13/2019 at 5:48 PM, DT said:

The assessment and performance periods are getting shorter.

Willie Taggart got less than 2 years at FSU.  Same with Chad Morris at Arkansas.  Barry Odom is an alum and got fired after 4 years at Mizzou.  Same with Matt Luke at Ole Miss, after 3 years.  

Performance periods are longer at Purdue because the program recently suffered through the worst 4 year period in it's own history. Hazell was given 3.5 seasons and Brohm has fared much better.

19 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Coach Holt has been relieved of his duties of Defensive Cordinators

Around the Purdue water cooler, lots of issues with landing recruits and Coach Brohm and him disconnect on how he wants his defense ran, Coach Brohm wants more aggressive style all over the field, but that was the case a many key moments this year, ESPECIALLY on 3rd down.   

 

I would love to see Purdue field a FAST aggressive defense based on getting turnovers and giving the offense as many chances as possible to score, similar to what the Colts had in the 2000s with Manning and Co on offense. Freeney and Mathis were absolute turnover causing machines back then. I think that with more aggressive play calling Big George will put up BIG sack numbers in the future.

When Brohm took over, Purdue's fanbase had low expectations and was expecting 6-6 and a bowl bid in year 3 or 4. Brohm and Co took a bunch of transfers and achieved "play 13" in years 1 and 2. Due to that early success, coupled with Brohm's reputation as an offensive genius, he became a hot target for other programs as a candidate. This left AD Bobinski in a tough spot. Should he risk letting Brohm go or show that he backs the football program, unlike previous AD and well known cheapskate Morgan Burke, and pony up a big contract? Brohm got paid. Unfortunately, this led a lot of casual fans, the ones who dont closely follow recruiting and etc, to think that Purdue was going to have a big 8-10 win season and follow a trajectory from 6-6. Even with all of the injuries last season, a total that actually led the entire nation, Brohm was probably looking at another 6-6 type of season. Most of the depth on this team was composed of true and redshirt freshman, due to years of poor recruiting left behind by the Hazell regime. That depth was then forced to start, exposing a bunch of freshman. This also gave a lot of the freshmen valuable playing time.

Honestly, next year looks like it's going to be another 6-6 type of season barring this team resembling a MASH unit once again. I'm okay with that, though, after dealing with the Danny Hope years of 6-6 mediocrity, followed by Hazell winning less than a dozen games in 4 years. There is upside, as Rondale Moore and DT Lorenzo Neal Jr. will return from injury and the offensive line should show improvement. This gives Purdue's starting QB, whomever that is, two 1000 yard receivers to target, plus the defense returns their best player.

I look forward to 2021 as the year that Purdue takes a giant step, as Purdue currently has only 19 upperclassmen on the entire roster. This includes 11 seniors and 8 juniors.

I think that Purdue wins 5-7 next year and then takes the leap to 8 wins or more in 2021. 

On 11/14/2019 at 12:38 PM, coachH said:

Adam Berry Pioneer. 

Only in his early 30s, has a record of 52-3 in four seasons, and has two blue rings and a red ring.

12 minutes ago, Temptation said:

Maybe I am too lazy to look it up as I am certain it is available, but could someone in the know post Charlie's actual career stats?  I know he went over 10k yards but what are the exact figures in terms of carries, yards, TD's, etc?

(And no I am not advocating it to be a career award as it is exclusive to seniors, so only senior year performances should be used; either way he wins in a landslide.)

Not to beat a dead horse or bring up past arguments but I think that is what rubbed people the wrong way in the past as mentioned two times on this thread.  

I agree that Yeast and Bell had strong cases for the award and possibly "should" have won but many folks looked at the career stats for Johnson (Brownsburg) and Kiser (Pioneer) and voted that way.  I could be completely reaching here but that's how I viewed it anyway.

For Kiser it was about making history. If I remember right, Kiser nearly swept the 1A and 2A vote to become the first 1A player to win Mr. Football.

18 hours ago, DT said:

Shelby may be beyond the point of no return.

Im sure they are talking about a comeback, but this is 2020, not 1995.

Kids passion for football is on the downturn.  I know all about NP, but that is THE exception to the rule.  There is a new group of admins running the show now.  They dont have the passion for football that their predecessors did.

The Shelby braintrust hopefully will take a deep dive into this issue and determine if its really worth it.  

Is it worth it just to show up and throw 11 live bodies on the field every Friday night?

Could those funds be better utilized elsewhere in the school?

Do the kids want an support a football program?

Is there a realistic chance of rebuilding the feeder system?

What kind of coaching can you possibly attract to this job?

Hopefully they will do their due diligence and come to a conclusion that is suitable for the entire student body, not just the 3% of students who want to keep playing.  

I can imagine you now, dancing and kicking up your heels now because a few dozen students lost the opportunity to play a sport.

I think I found DTs picture