Grover

Not redirecting anything. It's word for word my first question and it is a direct quote of you. You can't back it up.

You said, "Center Grove and Carmel made monumental miscalculations by boldly assuming that they would both be voted in to the Hoosier Crossroads Conference." I quoted it above and asked you where and when they made the assumption. I'll add a "who" to the question because it appears to me you are pulling it out of your backside and slinging it at everybody.

You're the one that made the claim. Back it up.

Where/when did they make that assumption?

You'd have the money if you'd just sell your boat.

Guess I didn't realize I had been on this forum that long. I swapped messages with Tim many times but only met him in person once -- just a few days before he passed. He was the real deal and was in it for the right reasons. And he definitely had a weak spot for linemen. I remember him being anxious for the birth of his fourth(?) grandchild who I believe was to be named Gracie. I got Gracie a onesie that said "Trojan Football" or something similar. Never got to give it to Tim so I mailed it to his wife instead. Tim is definitely missed but what a legacy he left. Thanks for the post Bob.

No, I just laugh at your SES takes. I don’t think anybody is denying the simple math. I’m just saying nothing is gained by the constant bitching about it.

You & I have disagreed on the topic but not because I don't acknowledge the advantage. My point is that a coach and a team can't do anything about it so quitcherbitchin about it. Enrollment disadvantages can be overcome.

Just observations I made while watching them last year. Yeah, I guess I left out Cathedral. My bad.

CYO 😁

Figure of speech but CG, WC, HSE, Westfield & Carmel would be on it.

I agree. They are on my short list of contenders this Fall.

Okay. I'm not going to argue with you over what "really wanted" means. They did offer McCullough. They also offered Caden Curry.

Dasan McCullough

I didn't say the school was circling the drain. I was referring to their youth program. And it is a relative term. Their talent is getting decimated by rogue travel teams with daddy coaches. As a result the kids aren't being as well coached, they aren't learning Warren's system, and they aren't learning loyalty to the program. Edit: I'm pretty sure Warren won't be fielding an IEFA team this year. They were a founding member and a dominant force for decades. The last few years they have gotten sand kicked in their faces. Now they're out. I hope they get it sorted out and return.

Their class that impressed me the most is either sophomores or juniors now.

I know what you're saying but Kirschner's state championship BD team was a well coached well oiled machine.

Warren's youth program was once among the best. The last few years it has been circling the drain. I know some people who help run it and it has to be driving them crazy but that sort of problem always spreads throughout the program.

I like that kid a lot.

I saw where the Plainfield QB is transferring to Westfield. Anybody know how good he will be?

Never thought I'd see the day that Warren would run & hide. Could make regionals interesting. What is Kirschner's record against CG? Regular season wouldn't surprise me. Playoffs would.

Honestly I would rather see CG stay independent.

Whiteland's school district is huge and largely undeveloped. Decades ago Clark Township High School was separate. As the farm land gets developed I wonder if it will again be separated.

LOL at the negative feedback I got on this post. I typed that Warren Central should be getting some love. Then I reread the original and saw they were listed so I edited my comment to ask for it to be deleted. I've said some stuff here worthy of negative feedback but this wasn't one of them. 😄

I'm curious to see how quickly Gillin gets Indian Creek into the conversation. I don't think it will take long.