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On 9/12/2022 at 2:50 PM, Dawgs_Dad said:

I don't have a dog in this FC discussion. Everyone knows there no love lost between NA and FC. However I don't root against FC unless they're playing NA.

I've watched the replay of the last second Seymour TD against FC several times. I can't say if this is a coaching failure or the kids didn't understand what the coaches meant them to do. Both can be true in this case. But when the opposition is 30 yards away and there is time for 1 more play, the deepest DB shouldn't be 10 yards off the ball as in this instance. Seymour had 2 receivers open because they ran past the FC DB's. I don't know if they were in cover 2 or 4, but if FC had 2 DB's standing on the 5-10 yard line to start, this play probably doesn't work. Again, don't know if it's coaching, player, or communication issue, but I feel certain they will address it.

That should never happen. The blame doesn’t fall on one coach or one player. They lost that as a team. I believe coach Hess when he says it was Cover 4. He knows their scheme and playbook 100 times better then I do. But I thought it was Cover 2 because of the alignment and type of back pedal. I do know the difference. But looking back, the players may not have executed properly. It’s a teaching moment.

On 9/12/2022 at 9:41 AM, Coachhess said:

Solid in basketball with D1 caliber players.  3 baseball sectionals in the last 20 years. Wrestling shares 0 athletes with football. Swimming….country club. Track has Lanesville in its sectional dude. 
 

Maybe that’s the bigger issue that FC needs to figure out. Why can’t they share athletes who can help multiple sports? Too much specialization. East has football stars on their basketball and baseball teams. Doesn’t happen at FC. 
 

Agree with @Impartial_Observer. If you’ve got beef, if you’ve got ties to the program, if you’ve got coaching experience, call the admins and let them know. Being a keyboard warrior and never revealing who are you, hiding behind the screen and blasting coaches who give countless hours to their school, rubs all of us the wrong way. 

I apologize for harsh criticism against coach Bragg, who I believe is a quality person. I was just extremely frustrated about last Fridays game. But there was a lack of execution by players in the Secondary and hopefully they’ll get it corrected.

16 hours ago, Olympian06 said:

A parent I know from Seymour, has a kid that plays on the 8th grade team that said the HH 8th grade team is phenomenal. He said they are very well coached and are a helluva 8th grade team. 

Columbus East

Floyd

Jennings

Seymour

We have talent. Maybe not top tier talent, but enough to be competitive. I’m not an advocate of changing Head Coaches. I just want the current HC to get this thing going. I’m always behind the team.

I don’t agree with Floyd Central being a “country club school.” They’re obviously not a Football school. But they’re solid in basketball. Solid in Baseball. They’ve been ranked #1 a few times recently in Baseball. Excellent Wrestling program. State Champion Wrestler recently. Obviously very good in Swimming, Track, and all the  Country Club sports.

Football is an issue. It’s not all on Coach Bragg. But that team has enough talent to be beating teams like Seymour.

1 hour ago, Coachhess said:

You’re right. Let’s add Providence back to the schedule so we can beat our chests about beating a 2A program. That’s FC in a nutshell. You play top tier competition to prepare to win it all.  Male wasn’t added by a football coach, neither was Elder. ST. X was added to replace Madison and Providence. Smaller schools won’t play FC in the area, most don’t have room in their schedules. 
 

Basketball school has won 3 sectionals since mid 90s and had how many big name applicants this spring? Coach Sturgeon is one of my best friends, love the guy. FC is a country club sport school. 
 

When I was there with Glesing, it was “he doesn’t throw it enough to win.” Now Bragg can’t coach. I can tell you the number of coaches from big name programs who applied when Glesing left, I helped vet the applicants. Same number as right arms my dad has. He’s an amputee. Not one from an Indy school or Louisville school. 
 

How’d the staff meeting go today? I know they we’re meeting around 6 and was hoping you could provide details. Wanted to make sure they didn’t line up in Cover 2 again at the end as you said they did. 

Let me ask you a question? What in the hell is their thought process about playing top 5 programs in the state of Kentucky? Male. Manual. St X, next season. Who in their right mind thinks that losing 42-7 every season is “making your team better.” Going 3 and out every possession isn’t allowing yourself to develop your offense. It might help your defense by exposing things, but this teams confidence gets shattered right out of the gate. I get that small schools won’t play them. But New Albany and Jeffersonville play tough teams without them being teams that will be impossible for Floyd Central to ever have a fighting chance against.

You don’t know me. And you obviously don’t like me very much. I do appreciate you holding the team together while Glesing had Lymphoma. I appreciate you coaching there for several seasons. But don’t tell me that I don’t have any right to be critical of the coaching there. I’m a long time fan. I was a player. I pay taxes in this county. I give money to Floyd Central. And quite frankly I expect them to play better football. If you think your buddy can get the job done, then that’s fine. I hope he starts doing it.

16 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Dude seriously I’ve listened to you bash coaches and administrators as long as you’ve been here. It’s not like people are standing in line to take all of these coaching positions. I suggest you get involved and make the changes you seek. It’s easy to sit on the sidelines and bitch, put up or shut up. I see youth, MS’s, even Frosh games every day that need help. Here’s your shot to fix everything at FC. I saw Highland Hills last week, I’m sure they have another coach’s shirt to fit you. 
My guess is you’re not the type to actually do any of the work, you’re they type who would grab the ear of any school board member who’d be willing to listen. 

FYI for the group, the 8th group from Highland Hills was pretty good, their 7th grade team ran a fairly sophisticated passing scheme. This could be a group to watch. They rivaled any on the Columbus Central teams during the Kiel years. 

Actually sir, I have coached youth football. But unfortunately I have to work a lot (50-60 hours a week) so I can’t be involved with it. I know I’m in the wrong criticizing coaches. But it’s not my fault that they do the same things over and over, expecting a different result. Example. Imagine telling people that you want to compete with the best(I.E. Louisville Male, St X, Cincinnati Elder.) And your program can only score 15 pts against Seymour? No offense to Seymour. Fine football team. I’m just making a point.

Jeffersonville, Floyd Central, and New Albany don’t care about football. They’re basketball schools. That’s why they aren’t very good. These guys hire coaches that wouldn’t even get an interview at East. I’m not being an A-hole, but that’s reality. Sorry if it offends anyone.

Just now, Coachhess said:

You want his number? Wanna help since you have all the answers? Of course not. Just sit in the stands and complain about coaching. Next coach will be the same.

 

he wasn’t in cover 2 to the end game. It’s cover 4. They’ll have a defense meeting Sunday if you’d like to attend. 

I don’t really want to crap on the guy, because he a really good guy. But I’m upset. I’m not a parent. I played 6 years in that program. So did my Father. 4 of my Uncles. 5 of my cousins. We’ve put a lot into that program. That did not look like cover 4 and if it was, their CB definitely didn’t drop into the zone fast enough. Either way, I’m disappointed in that loss. I know I don’t matter. But I attend every game and this one was hard.

2 minutes ago, Coachhess said:

8 wins a year. Love Glesing, hell of a coach. FC ran him out too, didn’t throw it enough. You’re a joke. Stop dude. Facts not your nonsense please.

Looks pretty good to me! He inherited a terrible program!

Does anyone think I don’t have a right to be mad? Floyd Central blew a Sectional 2 years ago. Started 0-5 last season. They’re at 1-3 right now. They get creamed by Louisville schools every season. Haven’t beaten East since George Bush’s first term. I can’t think of one good thing that program is doing right now? They sure don’t have much trouble in all the other sports.

5 minutes ago, Coachhess said:

Which one is it? Leave or good gameplan? Same reason I’ve told him to get out before is parents like you. You’re a joke dude. Voices from the stands. Get on the sidelines and help or just stop. You won’t though because you aren’t qualified and no one would hire you. You sit here weekly and boast your baseless claims about knowing what’s going on. You have zero clue. Sick of hearing you bash coaches non-stop but won’t do anything to help. Armchair QB at best. You’re a joke bro. 

Please! Keep telling him to leave! That would be the best thing to happen! He wants to play teams like Male and St X and he can’t even beat Seymour! He’s a nice guy but he’s out of his mind.

2 minutes ago, Olympian06 said:

I guess if it's just the way they practice, they'd change it up after a decade of the "best players" are hurt.

It’s not been a decade. That’s exaggerated. But under Bragg, yes you’re right.

4 minutes ago, Coachhess said:

Which one is it? Leave or good gameplan? Same reason I’ve told him to get out before is parents like you. You’re a joke dude. Voices from the stands. Get on the sidelines and help or just stop. You won’t though because you aren’t qualified and no one would hire you. You sit here weekly and boast your baseless claims about knowing what’s going on. You have zero clue. Sick of hearing you bash coaches non-stop but won’t do anything to help. Armchair QB at best. You’re a joke bro. 
 

1 minute ago, Olympian06 said:

This also isn't a shot at any coaches, but it just seems like "star players" are always hurt.

Idk man. It wasn’t like this under Glesing. Just saying. He didn’t beat East. But he won 7-8 games a year.

1 minute ago, Olympian06 said:

East is always just way more physical. East is going to score 28+ on everyone in the HHC, I don't think anyone is going to break 20 on the East D in the HHC. I also feel like these Floyd kids might have some Strength and Conditioning issues; they always seem to be hurt every year.

No they don’t. It’s the way they practice. They get hurt in practice. One kid fell in the shower and hit his head. It’s fluke stuff. You bring a good coach in to Floyd Central, and they’ll win an HHC title. 

What coach plays cover 2 on the 35 with 5 seconds left in the game? Bragg calls the Offense and the Defense. And I question about everything he does. Seymour couldn’t cover me. Everytime Floyd passed the ball, it was a 10 yard completion. But this guy wants to run dives up the middle all game. Just maddening. I just can’t with this guy anymore. And if he reads this, he has my permission to DM me and talk about it. Because the entire community is about done with this guy.

57 minutes ago, Olympian06 said:

The worst East is going to do is tie for 1st. I don't see East losing an HHC game this year tho. In all honesty, I picked Floyd to win tonight, just from what I saw from Seymour last week (Seymour being undersized and getting moved on the lines). Hats off to them for battling and winning a tight game.

Floyd Central has more talent then East, I would bet. But they don’t have the coaching to beat East. We are also missing our two best players but that’s not an excuse.

Hats off to Seymour. That loss is on Bragg. Just awful coaching.

I have never seen a team get away with holding on every other play. Ridiculous.

Floyd scores to make it 7-7 at half. It shouldn’t be this hard. Seymour isn’t that talented.

Just now, Fkfootball said:

Floyd scores to make it 7-7 at half. It shouldn’t be this hard. Seymour isn’t that talented.

Correction. 7-6. Jinxed the kicker.

Floyd Central needs to wake up.

Pre-game analysis 

Mt Vernon/Jeffersonville; Jeffersonville hasn’t been as bad as I thought they’d be. Nick Schindler has been solid at QB. They’re pretty big on their OL. I think with the long trip to Jeffersonville, I could see Jeffersonville pulling this game out over a solid Mt Vernon team.

East/JC; Jennings looks a lot better. But East is too much for most HHC teams even in a down year. I don’t see this one being close. I expect a big game from Ethan Duncan.
 

BNL/NA; Not an easy game to pick. NA definitely isn’t as good. I’m not sure about BNL yet but they had a decent win last Friday. The one edge I give to BNL is that I like their QB, Loudon, a lot. I’ll pick BNL in a game where every TD will be like found money.

Seymour/FC; Really hard to pick this game. It’s a head vs heart thing. These teams are so similar. Floyd Central didn’t get to play them at home last season. 2 years ago we beat them up there in a blowout win. It’s a good QB battle. Robertson vs Perry. Should be entertaining. FC typically doesn’t play well up there. The difference here is that I think Floyd Central has the better defense. They can be vulnerable on the back end of their defense. But their front 7 is pretty good and even showed up against the Louisville teams. I expect this to be an entertaining game and I’ll pick my Highlanders to win by a small margin.

On 9/6/2022 at 1:36 PM, Frozen Tundra said:

Did some research on student population growth and ranking among HHC schools. As you can see in the charts below, East and Jeff have pretty much stayed the same over the past decade. Floyd Central is growing and Seymour is booming. On the flip side, New Albany and BNL are shrinking while Jennings County is really shrinking.

On the table below, the ‘11/‘12-‘12/‘13 classification cycle doesn’t have a population number with it because I couldn’t go back that far on the IHSAA website. It only shows the rankings for that cycle. Each cycle after that contains the student population and rank, as well as the percent change from the previous cycle. The final column shows the percent change from ‘13/‘14-‘14/‘15 to now.

New Albany declining is a big suprise to me. A lot of people must be moving up the hill and I just didn’t realize it. I can’t believe Jennings County is shrinking like that. Jeffersonville will always be the biggest in the conference. They’re basically building up the undeveloped side of Jeffersonville. They’ll be at 2500-2600 within 10-15 years.

The Floyd Central-Seymour game is really intriguing. Seymour typically plays pretty well at home. Floyd Central won up there 2 years ago. FC usually doesn’t play very well up there. I think a big factor in this game is Floyd’s D-Line. They were tough as heck against Creek. 6”3 350 Lb NT Isaac Hunt and 6”1 270 Lb DT Emerson Jones should have good games.

40 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Talked to a guy that was there, he said JC just needs about 4-5 more guys to get people off the field. Too many guys playing both ways. JC also ran into the same situation many mediocre teams do against NA, NA just out athleted them. 
Perhaps there is light at the end of the tunnel for the Panthers, I worked there twice last week and they scored 3 W’s in the games I worked. Beat Seymour in 7th and 8th on Tuesday night, and beat Batesville in a C game on Thursday. Don’t have a clue on any of the scores, hell I’m doing good to just remember who was playing by the time I get home. 
Understand I’m an official and I really could give two shits who wins or loses any game, I’m not going to lie, it put a smile on my face to see the Panthers have a little success. The kids seemed genuinely excited in the MS games. Good for them, I don’t think we can label this as JC’s turn around, but when you have a tradition and culture of losing, and you’re trying to change that you have to focus on little battles and little wins that you build into bigger battles and wins. 

I actually saw on Twitter that they beat Batesville like 42-0 or something? I’m not positive on JCs point total but they blanked Batesville for sure. I do think that JC might have an uptick coming. And I agree with you, it does make you feel good to see a school like that have some success. Not too mention that a more competitive HHC is a better HHC.

Floyd Central 27 Silver Creek 13. This game was never in doubt. Floyd jumped out to a 14-0 lead. Creek scored at the end of the game but otherwise Floyd Centrals defense dominated them from the get go other then letting one guy get behind the secondary. Floyd Central is playing without their top 2 RBs, top WR, and RT. We expect to get those guys back in the near future. Robertson was 10-16 passing for 166 yds and 2 TDs. Andrew Gibson and Cody Bibelhauser shared carrys and had 60 yards a piece on the ground. As a team FC ran for 144 yards. They held Silver Creek to 97 yards on 37 carries. Bragg had a good gameplan. It’s clear they could’ve scored a lot more but they worked hard on their running game and some other wrinkle stuff we didn’t see in the first 2 games. Right now I’d put us 2nd in the HHC. At Seymour is the next step so I won’t even worry about East just yet. 3 weeks untill that game.

3 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Ehhh, the wheels kind of fell off last year after the East game,  but they were still a play away from being sectional champs. Get better this week. 

That is facts.

33 minutes ago, TheMadness1 said:

Seymour sounds like that have stilled played inconsistent football every other possession thus far.  East obviously needs to get their offensive drive going.  I'm sure East has a little added fuel for this game being that Seymour ended their HHC streak away last year.  But can they put that energy to good use as a team rather than some ending up trying to do too much and it backfiring.  That 2nd half should decide things.  This game will definitely determine who one of the top two HHC spots goes to this season.

Seymour has East and Floyd the next 2 weeks. This is their make or break point of the season. 2 losses here and they’re out of the race.

9 hours ago, Uncle Bubba said:

I left the area for some time and don’t know how transfers work. Had family at FC/NA/Jeff back in the early and late 90’s.  
Kid from NA seems legit and hope he succeeds  

was just wondering what the new transfer rules are? 
 

FC seems to be playing a early heavy schedule… which can help or hurt. Looks like hurt them this year from the injury report that I’m hearing from my buddies back home  They seem to be in a conundrum that lower level schools don’t want to play them so they have to fill with bigger schools. Just trying to get a understandable why playing the big Louisville teams help this early in the season.  Heard FC drops Male and Manual next year but picks up St. X next year for opening night. Does that help or hurt program?  

Thoughts? 
 

 

 

 

 

FC is pretty healthy other then their top RBs being out. And they got hurt in practice which can happen. They have other guys to carry the ball so I’m sure they’ll survive.