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1 minute ago, Bobref said:
That 1% may be pretty significant. The Celtics are going nowhere and are again underachieving. I wonder how much patience Ainge is going to have. Clearly, without a solid indication, IU can’t wait until the NBA season is over to fill that vacancy. But I wouldn’t be surprised if, come June, Stevens is looking for a job.
U R right, on both counts. That’s the reason for the 99. And Stevens really has not produced in New England.
Again, time is critical in theses situations. But it it’s a step by step processes and situations are continually changing as time is passing.
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10 minutes ago, DE said:
Still going w the guy from Alabama. Call it a hunch.
Well I’m not privy to any decision making , that hunch is as good as any right now. Irish said it, the delay here now, is wait for the candidate to bow out of the tournament. Since we know Stevens is 99% out.
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7 hours ago, Irishman said:
Man, I wish I could name him.....still hopeful it is Stevens.
Meh. Won’t be Stevens. I’m sure the named candidate will not be any that we have all been talking about.
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Lol, misery loves company, PU goes out in first round.Indiana’s not up to Purdue’s level, lol. That’s how bad it is.
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12 hours ago, Irishman said:
Well, as far as the visual goes, it does not appear that Chris Beard or any other coach who has had the season end are on the priority list for Dolson. I think he had a person in mind when he dumped Miller. I am thinking that person is coaching a team who has not had their season end yet.
Well , this makes sense. Why wait, when time is precious, unless you have to wait.
So you have it narrowed down?
Give you three guessesNAME that coach.
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Who did they name as football coach at north?
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On 1/15/2021 at 8:04 AM, southend said:
You may be right . I have a little bit of a different take on the situation. This program ,basketball,was in similar shape as the football program was before Wilson took over. Crean literally could not coach players, 5 years in, it was obvious when we ended up with two, 2! now, top five picks in the NBA draft. And didn’t get past the sweet sixteen. That’s when he had his walking papers but was given a 2nd chance. And AD Glass lost respect.So recruiting was his savior first 5 years, then his Achilles. He alienated all indiana HS coaches and lost all the all stars to various other schools. The situation ,little Ryan Miller took over ,was in shambles to say the least.
And A situation no reasonably established coach wanted any part of after, Sampson and Crean eras.
So the time frame is at least 5 years for Arch, in my mind. To accumulate and form a team here. The defense is getting respect from other coaches around the league . Also the one and done thing makes it a little harder on a unproven coach. He continues to sign top Indiana kids, keeping them away from OSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Louisville, Etc. which is crucial to the success of the program. All schools know Indiana boys can ball. Indiana is not to far off on talent but I think next year will be a big bump in production for the program. The confidence is just not there yet ,as you can see the way they finish games this year. Let’s give it another few years here.So much for my take on Archie(little Ryan) Miller. Scott D. Has some agenda, and a sharp axe,and it does not include Ryan Miller.
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I say it’s good enough for the fans. Stay great in the conference, die in the big dance.
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So , final word? Is he out?
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10 hours ago, DE said:
If I’m IU my response would be, “And?” If he is their guy, Cuban will find a way.
On the surface, all the above mentioned coaches have had success in the public eye.where it gets difficult for the Athletes director ,is all the peripheral stuff he has to dig around for. Time consuming job for the decision makers.
While I don’t know the psyche of Scott Dolsen , I have a good feeling he will get the “Guy”. He has the pulse of the University and the people who support it.
He has been around the program for all of his adult life, education included. And the gonads ,to pull the trigger ,for a $10 million buy out. Something Fred Glass didn’t have, when dealing with the Crean situation. -
Not so fast my friend! I know Carmel has gotten better since their first meeting, as has Lawrence North. The Game was a “Game”. But my intuition says North will have a plan for Carmel this time, maybe it will work. But Carmel is a machine!
11 hours ago, psaboy said:And of course, Carmel in 4A
Your picks?
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Ok same location then. Nice
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On 3/19/2021 at 5:52 AM, Bobref said:
Here’s one take on the candidates for the IU job:
Dr. Bo's Indiana basketball coaching candidates Hot Sheet, Vol. 1
Rick Bozich
Mar 17, 2021 Updated Mar 17, 2021
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Some people say Indiana needs an Indiana guy to lift its basketball program from the malaise that has surrounded Hoosier basketball for nearly two decades.
I say they are wrong.
I say Indiana needs a coach the Big Ten and college basketball will respect and often fear.
A guy who has proven that he can win and that Indiana will compensate with a package that the market demands.
A coach who will signal that Indiana means business about returning to the top of the Big Ten. Not a coach who'll have to learn on the job.
I said it before, but people refuse to listen, so I’ll say it again: Bob Knight was an Ohio State guy before he arrived in Bloomington in 1971.
Mike Krzyzewski was a West Point guy. John Calipari was a Clarion State guy. John Wooden was a Purdue guy.
Knight became an Indiana guy by going to two Final Fours and winning parts of four Big Ten titles in his first five seasons.
Ditto for Coach K, Coach Cal, the Wizard of Westwood and many others.
That guiding principle, along with information I collected from sources I trust, resulted in this project: Doctor Bo’s Indiana Coaching Hot Sheet, Volume 1:
Chris Beard, Texas Tech
Why It Works: Winner. Came within an overtime of winning the 2019 national title. In Lubbock, Texas. His teams have ranked in the top 25 nationally in defensive efficiency four straight seasons. The offense has been top 50 in the same period. At Texas Tech. In the Big 12. Credits Knight for some of his success. Has the personality to command the room. Already has 2 wins over Purdue. Has the fear factor.
Why It Doesn’t: The man makes $4.8 million in a state with no income tax, along with a buyout of more than $2 million. He’s the Lord of Lubbock, master of a program that he constructed. No pressure to leave. Strong family ties in Texas. There are no connections to Indiana or the Midwest other than the 10 years Beard invested as an assistant coach to both Bob and Pat Knight at Texas Tech.
Dr. Bo Percentage: 31%
John Beilein, former Michigan coach
Why It Works: Another winner. Two national championship games at Michigan, which was a mess when he took over from Tommy Amaker. Major success at West Virginia, which was irrelevant when Beilein arrived. Track record of developing and winning with players who were not top-75 recruits — and getting them to the NBA. His fear factor comes from his ability to out-coach you not because of the force of his personality.
Why It Doesn’t: Turned 68 in early February. Needed six seasons to get the Wolverines beyond the Round of 32 in the NCAA Tournament. Failed to survive a single NBA season in Cleveland, losing the locker room with strange practice demands and by referring to his players as a “bunch of thugs.” Although Beilein insisted that he meant to use the word “slugs” instead of “thugs,” his NBA career was essentially over.
Dr. Bo Percentage: 25%
Calbert Cheaney, Pacers assistant, former IU all-American
Why It Works: One of the most popular players in IU history as well as the Big Ten’s leading scorer. Has experience working with players in college and the NBA. Thoughtful and excellent communicator. Relates well to players. Would follow the model established by Juwan Howard at Michigan and Patrick Ewing at Georgetown. Has support of several former IU players.
Why It Doesn’t: Not only does he lack head coaching experience, Cheaney has never been a No. 1 assistant. Turned down an opportunity to upgrade from an operations guy to assistant coach at IU under Tom Crean. Lacks the name recognition of Howard and Ewing. Would require a staff with strong, veteran college experience. No fear factor.
Dr. Bo Percentage: 13%
Scott Drew, Baylor
Why It Works: Architect of one of the top rebuilding jobs in college basketball, raising a program leveled by the murder of a player and NCAA probation into a consistent Big 12 power. Evolved from a coach fixated on 4- and 5-star prospects to a guy who has won with player development of lesser recruits and transfers. Could win the 2021 national title. Grew up in northern Indiana where he coached Valparaiso. Modest Fear Factor.
Why It Doesn’t: Happy in Waco, where they’ll give him a statue when he retires. Believes in don’t mess with happy. In a 2012 poll at CBSSports.com, Drew ranked second to Calipari in a poll question about guys that opposing coaches considered to be cheating. Has detractors in Indiana AAU circles because of his recruitment of former IU player Hanner Mosquera-Perea. Some wonder if he’s using the IU job to squeeze a raise from Baylor.
Dr. Bo Percentage: 10%
Brad Stevens, Boston Celtics
Why It Works: The slam-dunk No.1 recruit for IU fans since he directed Butler to back-to-back national championship games in 2010-11. Smart, innovative, universally respected. Eight years of NBA head coaching experience in Boston. The son of a former IU football player, whose father took him to Assembly Hall for three or four games every season. Grand slam. Total package. Definite Fear and Complete Respect Factor.
Why It Doesn’t: Has a job he loves with the Celtics. Has repeatedly confirmed his commitment there. Would be hired by another NBA franchise immediately if the Celtics went another direction. Not gaga about recruiting but would be a top candidate for the Duke or North Carolina jobs when Mike Krzyzewski and Roy Williams retire.
Dr. Bo Percentage: 7%
Eric Musselman, Arkansas
Why It Works: Has the Razorbacks in the top 10 in his second season in Fayetteville after the program spent several decades in the wilderness. Advocate of the modern game as evidenced by Arkansas ranking No. 17 in tempo. Won at Nevada.
Why It Doesn’t: Recruiting heavily reliant on transfers. Just got to Fayetteville, and a source I trust says he has no interest in the job. Slim Fear Factor.
Dr. Bo Percentage: 6%
Thad Matta, former Ohio State coach
Why It Works: Best winning percentage in Ohio State history. Won five Big Ten regular season titles and three Big Ten Tournament titles (what are those?). A couple of Final Fours. Also won big at Xavier. Midwest guy who understands what the Indiana job demands. Has recruited well in Indiana.
Why It Doesn’t: Lost his mojo late in his Ohio State run. Failed to make NCAA Tournament in his final two seasons. Failed to advance to the Sweet 16 in his final four seasons. Health was not 100% and that appeared to affect his recruiting. Has turned down other college options. Minimal Fear Factor.
Dr. Bo Percentage: 5%
Everybody Else
Why It Works: Because Indiana needs a coach
Why It Doesn’t: Because they aren’t the names higher on the list. Nothing to fear but another coaching change in four years.
Dr. Bo Percentage: 3%.
Mike Woodson on this list? He really has an inside to the high school coaches.
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AAA- different story. It’s the south again.
Silver Creek is right up there with the 4A teams in talent.
Although in Fart Wayne all of the athletes are fleeing inner city ,to the $$$$(burbs), Leo, Carroll, Homestead, and parochial schools. The Creek will show the Grable ,plow boys ,southern B-ball. -
I’ve got the Hawks, from the north. Fart Wayne , my home town.
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They’ve Been there many times . Although not the full finals fanfare experience, I’m going with the south.
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Ok now that we know. Give me your picks.
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18 hours ago, psaboy said:
Sometimes the truth is a painful reality.
Blackhawk has become a very good basketball program.
Are the Hawks still located in the middle of R. Nelson’s, territory? Close to Arlington Park.
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Brad has said no thanks a few times, but is flattered by the consideration.
The list has to be short, indiana does not have much time here. Younger Dl major conference coaches will be the main focus. But not the only consideration. -
Hope to see a little “reigon “ in th last game!
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On 3/2/2021 at 1:12 PM, Muda69 said:
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I sure hope common sense prevails in the ISU athletic and administration offices, and Mr. Lansing is retrained. Not renewing his contract would be a huge blow to the program.
Thanks muda. I’m sure the program wants to have a presence in the big dance. $$$ talks. This guy is doing more than he is getting paid.
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On 3/15/2021 at 2:49 PM, Muda69 said:
Gregg Doyel chimes in: IU gambled, lost on Archie Miller. No more gambles. Get a sure thing. You know his name.
(Note: Article is behind a paywall)
Honestly, I don’t think it was a gamble. Fred glass did his home work. Midwest success. 4 years in row making ncaa. 1 year reaching elite 8. Young. Good Basketball family.
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On 3/15/2021 at 2:49 PM, Muda69 said:
Gregg Doyel chimes in: IU gambled, lost on Archie Miller. No more gambles. Get a sure thing. You know his name.
(Note: Article is behind a paywall)
Won’t happen
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Man, what happened to the number 1 rated team in 4a. Carmel killed them.
the schools down south though Fort Wayne had the team this year. Instead of the southern schools.-
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Hinkle Fieldhouse
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There were so many facilities, across the state, rockin back in the day, with Hinkle being one of them. Man the basketball memories.