southend

Well yea! Who the hell knows? But to say they didn’t benefit? You may be jumpin to conclusions 

6 hours ago, BTF said:

I don't see the point in disrupting the SAC in it's current form to go out and play Warsaw. Go big or go home. They found Penn. They found Cathedral. Homestead found Carmel. There will be takers, that wont be a problem. 

I agree, no point in disrupting a SAC conference. They are in their own little  world. They can dominate there in the Fort. Why or who wants any more? This coming from the little sister. NHHS might just ride up and bite big brother in the ass one day. 

6 hours ago, DE said:

Is Bloomington South/Martinsville a bigger/heated/better/whatever you want to call it, rivalry than Bloomington South/Bloomington North?

The rivalry started when Myron moriority  was hired at south from up north. He was a star athlete at St Joseph in Rensselaer. Then coached up north at lake central, if I’m not mistaken. Maybe not. But anyway he came to Bloomington and went up against his high school coach at Martinsville.  Was a big rivalry game for several years, with both programs producing multiple all state players and D1 recruits. Bloomington north never has had the coaching to create a good rivalry. They came into existence in ‘74. So martinsville was always the challenge for Bloomington High School up to that point in football and basketball. Not so much now. 

On 12/23/2020 at 11:05 AM, DT said:

Reputationally, IU has n ot arrived, ISU has

Hence the NY6 choice.

Its that simple

Also, ISU has made several national TV appearances over the past few seasons.  IU has made ZERO.  That plays into the choice as well.

The reputation comes from Indiana’s own conference. Indiana deserved and earned the right to play for the Big championship. Only to have the ADs dismiss the Hoosiers as the step child of the conference. No wonder the National committee didn’t give them any respect, I don’t blame them, he’ll Iu’s own conference threw them under the bus. 

On 12/21/2020 at 9:23 AM, southend said:

Back to topic, Indiana is playing a no win game here. Mississippi is a good team. They put up 21 on alabama and Arkansas. Theyput up 28 against auburn, 35 on Florida and 48 on LSU. All losses but still.  And any where from 40 to 60 points in their wins. 
A win by Indiana and everyone will say that they should have beat a team with a losing record. A loss , that could well happen ,and then IU drops out of the top 20 at least. 

Terrible call on IU’s part to accept ,a non top 6 bowl game.  

 

Still my take on the situation. 

Lafayette to Columbus, then go west young man to Bloomington then on to Terre Haute, then back north to Lafayette. That's a pretty big swath through the state. Could of, at one time, been the  second best conference in the state. I guess still would have the potential to be now.

We shall see, I’m not convinced Indiana can win this game. They have a good chance to. Big consequences if Indiana loses to a team with a losing record. And we are Not going to gain much more than what we already have gained so far this year, if we in fact do Win. 

17 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

That's where it belongs loser.

Typical, adds nothing but conjecture and snide remarks. 
 

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Well, college football was just a microcosm of society as a whole.

1.  “Big ten teams must play a minimum of 6 games.”

Never mind.

2.  “Big Ten teams must adhere to a 21 day protocol.“

Never mind.

Absolutely ZERO consistency and ever changing rules drafted in pencil.

Different rules for the elites.

Can I be done now fellas?

Let’s “F” Indiana!

Yes. Kelly. He stated if the game was to be played in California, speaking for his players, he would turndown the invitation if the parents of the players were no allowed to attend their sons game. He was interviewed on the tube. 

46 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

A huge disservice to its fans, players, and coaches not playing this game. Tom Allen is not the one to back down from anything. 

And Big Tom shouldn’t let his ego get in the way of how he and the whole program got rudely disrespected. 

11 minutes ago, Irishman said:

I think they should still show up and play...and be well prepared to play. When I see snubs like this, I think of teams that fall into the trap of being too upset they cannot focus on the next opponent. I think of K State playing Purdue in the Alamo Bowl. K State players and media were still talking about being snubbed. Oklahoma playing Boise State comes to mind as well. 

It a no win for an up and coming program. It will not hurt Indiana in the least to not play.  USC and several high profile programs have for various reasons declined this year. Hell Kelly was turning down his game at the rose bowl.  So in a let’s snub Indiana year, Big ten and bowl selection committee,  I’m all for a turndown and regroup with penix for next year. Or we can keep getting push around like the step child we are acting like here.  
Any body see Fred Glass’s take on this? Man he really stuck his neck out, calling out the Big ten hierarchy, steeling Indiana’s HS players, and keeping Indiana beat down. 
Im not going to be on the side of allowing The Program to be purposefully disrespected.

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

Haven't won a bowl game in 30 years. IU isn't going to get any respect until they start winning bowl games. Tampa is arguably IU's biggest recruiting hotbed and with 20 some players on IU's roster from the Tampa area this is a no-brainer. 

If IU wins , they won’t climb in any of the polls. If they lose, drop out of the top 20. 
this isn’t like losing to Auburn or Florida or LSU. 
Indiana should pass on this menial bowl invite

59 minutes ago, DE said:

Is there supposed to be something in the black box?

 

I hope you know I was joking. Hence the 😉 

 

Oh yeah, your quite the jokester 😃

16 minutes ago, DE said:

An AWFUL PI call against the Boilers?

😉

I’m in total agreement!

26 minutes ago, temptation said:

Heard the same thing about Minnesota and Purdue two years ago...

What happened?

Back to topic, Indiana is playing a no win game here. Mississippi is a good team. They put up 21 on alabama and Arkansas. Theyput up 28 against auburn, 35 on Florida and 48 on LSU. All losses but still.  And any where from 40 to 60 points in their wins. 
A win by Indiana and everyone will say that they should have beat a team with a losing record. A loss , that could well happen ,and then IU drops out of the top 20 at least. 

Terrible call on IU’s part to accept ,a non top 6 bowl game.  

Good strategy. Hope it works. 

7 hours ago, temptation said:

I’m going to take the opposing view.  Bret is just a retread.  His Big Ten roots do speak for themselves but I think Illinois should have gone with a young up and comer.

I think they have been suckered into thinking that they can recreate something of the magic their next door neighbors, Indiana, did in 2020.

I think the Hoosiers’ success in 2020 is an anomaly.

Though it seems to an easier climb to the top in the Big Ten West.

Pixxy dust did it for Indiana!

Pixxy Dust.  Is all I got out of this tirade .  Lol. Pixxy Dust. 

Hi lites -highlights kind of the same. 
I like how in indiana ,some county  maintenance trucks have, “whatever” county Hi-way Dept., on the side of their trucks.  

5 hours ago, Boilernation said:

I would say as a Purdue fan I would be happy with 7-9 wins a year with a good Bowl game. 10 wins and above is just gravy. College football is a beast. 

Not much different normally from any  program, other than the elites in football.

Yes in Indiana’s situation, “turning around “means just what they did this year. They have beaten the teams they were supposed to ,and won some close games that have always eluded them for several years past. The crowd isn’t calling for championships here. Just respectability. 
So they are on the tight track.  Keeping it up will determine whether they win championships or not.  

HOOSIERS 

On 12/13/2020 at 6:12 PM, DE said:

@southendWhat's confusing?

Obvious to me ,bad D