jakone

12 hours ago, DT said:

I think its a great idea.  We will also run our own separate mini event in the north to open the season    Here is the schedule :

South Adams vs Andrean

Homestead vs Elkhart

Bishop Luers vs Mishawaka Marian

Valparaiso vs East Noble

Carroll vs Warsaw (rematch)

Snider vs Penn or Merrillville

Dwenger vs Valparaiso

Concordia vs Hobart

12 hours ago, Whiting89 said:

No I’d prefer seeded statewide playoffs like Illinois 

plus Indiana being a midsized state makes no sense. I think the only state that has northern and southern is California and that’s like 5 states in 1.

 

How would you have seeded A 3-6 Luers team this year? What criteria would you use to seed?

Defund the public schools.

11 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

When I think of small school ball, I think of South Adams. Not a pseudo-JV All Star team from the West Side of Indy masquerading as a 1A football team. 😉

 

😭

9 minutes ago, JustRules said:

Agreed. There are 6 categories of DPI when we make that judgement. A cut off is one of them. When I saw it live I didn't there was much there. Then they showed the field level view from the end zone and it was the epitome of a cut off. That category applies when a defender is running down field with the receiver and contacts him in a way that pushes him away from the ball especially out of bounds. It's fair to argue judgement here if that's what happened, but that's what it looked like to me with the benefit of replay. As Bob has mentioned the official who made the call was in perfect position to make the call and because of that I trust his judgement.

Rule hasn't changed in a long time. The only way this is illegal participation is if he is knocked out and doesn't come back in at his earliest convenience. He isn't able to do that because he's being ridden out of bounds as the ball is arriving. He would only commit IP here if he goes out on his own and doesn't return or is knocked out by the defender and then runs down the sideline on his own and comes in much later.

This crew is from central Indiana and works big games every week in the regular season. They work a heavy dose of MIC, HCC, Cathedral, and Chatard. The BJ worked a D2 national championship game a couple years ago and was available to work with this crew (his original HS crew) because his college season was postponed to Spring. They are an excellent crew and showed it today. They were in total control in a crazy game and made big calls when they needed. There were several crazy things from an officiating standpoint that happened in the last 3 minutes and they nailed all of them. Anybody complaining about the officiating in the game show they know every little about officiating quality.

And trust me...the people most critical about the officiating in the finals are usually other officials usually because they are jealous they aren't working.

Central Indiana crew reffing a game in which a central Indiana team plays. Got it.

1 minute ago, Bobref said:

Just trying to educate people on some points of officiating that they don't, and couldn't be expected to know, from time to time. But you can only educate people who are willing to be educated.

Educate me on how they assign refs for the finals.

2 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Nunya.

I thought so.

1 minute ago, Bobref said:

Yes, but I won't. Really, it's not for me to make that information public. But I can tell you that they are from neither Boone nor Allen counties.

Big city or small town?

Cool.

5 minutes ago, Bobref said:

As I said, I don't know if the receiver stepped out, or if he did, why he did. But, if the receiver voluntarily stepped out and returned, then the result of the play should have been a double foul, i.e., live ball fouls by both teams that offset, and the down is replayed at the previous spot.

What bias? I said I didn't see that part of the play. I'm not saying what should have happened. I'm just telling you what the rules say. Or are you not interested in that?

Can you tell me where the refs in this game are from.

Golf is on now.

2 minutes ago, Bobref said:

I did not see the play in question on the replay, only live, and don't know whether or why the receiver stepped out of bounds. But this is the rule:

• A receiver who was eligible at the start of a play remains eligible throughout the down, no matter what.
• If the receiver steps out of bounds as a result of contact with the defender, no matter how slight, and returns to the field of play at the earliest opportunity, there's no foul.
• If the receiver stepped out of bounds on his own and returns to the field of play, it is a foul at the spot he returns. The foul is for illegal participation, a 15 yd. live ball penalty which, in this particular case since it occurred during a pass play, would be enforced from the previous spot and the down replayed.
• Since the DPI and the illegal participation are both live ball fouls, they offset and the down is replayed at the previous spot.

From what I saw, the DPI was a good call. The other 6 observers I'm watching the game from the pressbox with agree.

And you are not biased.

2 minutes ago, Crusty said:

Anyone who disagreed with that pass interference call must have not watched the game as it was clearly pi.... 

As long as it called the same way all the time. Does anyone know where these refs are from?

6 hours ago, Robert said:

I went to grade school and high school with Fred, but only see him when he's refereeing IHSAA basketball games that I see anymore.  Yes, he went to Catholic grade school. 

When I lived in the area, I'd often catch WEBO games.  Good football over that way.  

Whatever happens, I hope that the decent Luers team shows up and they don't drop opportunities. 

 

 

Wow you went to Sacred Heart, So did I. My friend who also went to Sacred Heart coached Fred in grade school basketball I thought he was going to make it to the NBA lol.

I believe this site is 1-4 at picking Luers games in the playoffs so I'm glad he's picking WeBo.😁

13 hours ago, 07_statechamp54 said:

That would be Bishop Luers in the ‘89 Semi State 33-12 👀. That ‘89 Luers team was a tough nosed bunch. They loved to run the football with over 3000 team yards. Fred Moore was arguably the best back in the state that year with just over 2000 to finish the season. He was electric ⚡️ 

Fred Moore outdueled Travis Hollingsworth who was one of the all time greats.

Is Luers best overall player Sir Hale still out with injury? Come Friday it will be four weeks he's been sidelined.

12 hours ago, PhilLee said:

Has there ever been a state finalist with a worse defense statistically then Luers?  They are giving up 33 points a game.  

 

One time when Luers won state they lost 62-0 last game before the playoffs.

F.W. North Side Legends (formerly Redskins.) No truth to the rumor they named it after singer John Legend.😁

3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Luers getting SMASHED on the edge....  

Giving them the full Monty of the Wing T.....  

 

Dewey defeats Truman!

13 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Nope, Pioneer plays in the PIT, they welcome unnecceary field adjustments 

After my anger subsided 10 years ago, I know feel a sense of pride that Head Coach at the time felt the need to alter the field for a chance for his team to compete.  So I will take that win 10 years later.  

They wanted to take away your speed advantage.

Just now, jakone said:

  

Luers field day before game. I think it needs watering don't you Coach Nowlin.

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I thought that was Scecina fan though now?/   

Either way my Luers friends, those who have been around here a long long time dealt with some posters from Indy who would refer to playing Pioneer, or other rural schools as the difference in the upcoming game was the "city speed" vs other schools 

nothing more, nothing less  

Rooting for my friends at Pioneer to win this one and the next one as well.  But I am a Region 4 guy!! 

My apologies to Ritter fans. Any school named after John Ritter is OK with me.

6 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:

Eastbrook

Luers

Andrean

Rensselaer

Pioneer

Central Catholic

Tipton

Maybe South Adams, Adams Central and Busco (depending on enrollment)

2a could be scary good. 

Eastside is every bit as good as Luers and they return a lot of talent so add them to the list.

6 hours ago, AG said:

Only Indy has "city speed."

Yes, Ritter fans tried to explain this to Luers fans a few years back.