Bobref

I think it’s a chicken and egg thing. After all, he can only coach the players he has. It is pretty clear when ND goes up against the likes of Bama, Clemson, Georgia and Ohio State that they are being “out-athleted” more than they are being outcoached. At least, that’s what it seems to me. There’s only so much you can do with schemes.

Kelly is a good coach, no doubt about it. It becomes a question of whether filling the stadium every game and winning 10 games a year is enough. It would be for most people. But it’s clear by now - with a relatively large sample size - that he is unable to win the really significant games needed to push the Irish to the level of Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc. Remember, “good is the enemy of better.” And I have no “St. X ties.” I went to Lakewood St. Edward. St. X is a sworn enemy.

Just like Indiana fans are spoiled by the all in playoff format.

You do know that Meyer spent 4 seasons as an assistant at ND under Lou Holtz, right? He’s quite familiar with the culture at Notre Dame, and they are familiar with him. I just don’t think that he wants to have a hand tied behind his back as far as recruiting goes.

Wow, you are really adept at reading things into what other people say. Scroll down a couple of posts to where I say I’d take him in a minute. Would I do that if I thought he was unethical, or a “villain?” He’s not. He just knows there are restrictions on recruiting at Notre Dame that don’t exist at other places like Ohio State. That doesn’t make him evil. The Notre Dame environment was not what he wanted, that’s all. Clark?

Whaaaatttt???? 🥶

I’m not too concerned about that. Urban’s problems at Florida and, to a lesser extent, at Ohio State were a product of the people he recruited. The administrative oversight on recruiting issues from outside the athletic dept. is adequate to prevent that from happening at ND. I believe it’s that oversight that led to him turning down the job years ago. But the fact that such oversight still exists probably makes it futile to pursue him now. Having said that, I’d take him in a minute. If there’s anyone who can get us to get to that top level, it’s him. Just as long as there is no compromise of the principles that have long been in place.

Who do you think ND’s first choice was before they hired Kelly? He turned them down because he didn’t want to live with the academic restrictions on recruiting. Nothing’s changed.

Assuming that is true, there’s not a back judge in the world — and I’m including the NFL — who can see that at game speed. If you have to look at something frame by frame to see it, it’s ridiculous to expect an official to see it during game action.

Never seen a game at HH. Pretty far from the Region. But since I’m an observer now and there aren’t that many of us, who knows? I’ll already be in Bloomington for a meeting on semistate Friday. Maybe I can wangle an assignment to observe whoever is at HH then. Think they’ll be home if they make it to the semistate?

Pardon me if I brag on my guys a little, but in those years our crew was really, really good. Everyone knew that the Chatard - Danville game might well decide the state championship (with apologies to@Patriot 74), so the IHSAA took the unheard of [then] step of bringing our crew all the way down to Indy from the Region to work a sectional final. And that game lived up to its promise, and then some.

The only player I distinctly remember was a 2-way player who was a RB and a LB. Don’t recall his name, but I think he went to IU on a scholarship. Man, was he a load! I thought he was the best player on the field that night. One of the most physical HS football games I was ever a part of, and he was right in the thick of it.

Sure you can. This is one of those unresolved and unresolvable discussions that makes HS football so much fun.

Thank you. That’s great, but I’d like to go back further, if there’s a way to do that.

Jeff Sagarin’s algorithmic ratings system gets talked about a lot on the GID. Does anyone know if/where we can retrieve archived Sagarin ratings from previous years?

Or any other state. There’s a reason we stand alone ... and it’s not because we’re smarter than everyone else.

Would a, could a, should a ... doesn't trump what actually happened.

That's your opinion.

Going to have to disagree with you there. Chatard was #1 and Danville #2 going into that Sectional Championship game. Both 11-0. Heritage Hills was only ranked #2 after Chatard had beaten Danville. Chatard beat HH by 7 in the semistate in Heritage Hills' own stadium. They beat Danville by a single point, when Danville scored with about 20 sec. left and decided to go for two -- and didn't make it. If they had kicked the extra point, we might still be playing. Those two teams were that evenly matched. If anyone knows where I can retrieve archived Sagarin ratings from 2002, I'd be really intrigued to see what they have to say about it.

The civil forfeiture case, in which the Indiana Supreme Court's treatment of civil forfeitures was ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS, has been remanded to the trial court in Grant County to determine whether the requested forfeiture was justified under an "excessiveness" analysis. In other words, the trial court will determine whether the punishment fits the crime. https://www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/majority-justices-remand-land-rover-forfeiture-case-for-excessiveness-analysis?utm_source=il-daily&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=2019-10-28

I am long on the record as proposing a top 50% qualification system, which would put approximately 160 Indiana schools in the playoffs. The rest of your post is simply a rehash of the hurt feelings/entitlement mentality which is the product of 30+ years of the all in format. It has been demonstrated statistically in each of approximately the last 5-6 years that such a format will essentially not deprive anyone of anything. I'll do it again this year, but I don't realistically hope to convince anyone with facts. After all, speculation is, apparently, much more persuasive.

If that were the case, there would be ample evidence of it in other states. There’s nothing unique about the psyche of Indiana football players ... except the entitlement mentality that the all in format breeds. In Ohio, for example, 192 teams make the playoffs out of a total of 712, slightly more than 1/4 of the schools. Can you cite a single instance of a school dropping football because of repeated failures to make the playoffs? Anywhere?

It was 2002 ... and that was probably the best high school football game I ever officiated. The de facto state championship.

House of Horrors ... and I’m not talking about the visiting team. 😜 They still haven’t razed that place. But rest assured, the day the bulldozers come for it, I’ll be in a lawn chair up on the railroad tracks with a six pack, cheering them on.

Please stop with the Cam Newton talk. You can stick a fork in him. Without the run threat, he’s nothing special. And his running days are behind him.