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Yeah, it wasn’t the weather. This is the story of Kelly’s tenure. Recruit players that are good enough to have a good team. But they don’t seem to develop much. They’re good enough to beat pretty much everyone they should beat. But they don’t win any big games.

Could someone who was at the Tell City - Forest Park game last night please contact me via private message? Thanks.

Then you probably wouldn’t want me to be the observer assigned to evaluate your crew. 😆 Just kidding. On a play like this it is unlikely I would downgrade anyone who called a holding penalty there, although it would be a topic of discussion in the postgame debrief.

Reasonable people can have a difference of opinion.

The proper technique is to see the potential hold and then look at the QB. If the ball is gone, or he’s in his throwing motion, hold the flag. I know it’s a hard concept for non-officials to get their heads around. But that’s why we get paid the big bucks. 😆

Absolutely not.

And when the winner of the LSU - Alabama game loses in the SEC title game, all hell will break loose.

Don’t know how you got that from what I said. But I can tell you that is part of the philosophy of calling holding in pass protection at every level of football. Don’t be disappointed in me. Be disappointed in all of the NFL and D-1 clinicians at the dozens of officiating clinics I’ve attended over many years. Because I didn’t invent that philosophy.

Sitting at home on a rainy Saturday and watching a Chicago Catholic League game between Marist and Loyola Academy. Loyola is a heavy favorite, but Marist leads by one at half. All the broadcast team can talk about is how Marist is playing with desperation because they need to win to make the playoffs. Too bad we will never be able to generate that kind of excitement for a regular season game in Indiana.

No, there weren’t. Arguably - and it’s by no means certain from these views - the right OT pulls the DE down on top of him. But no good official would call holding there because the ball was out quickly enough that the DE wasn’t going to get there even without the possible holding.

What do you have, if anything? FYI, the offensive team was trailing by 6 and the ball was snapped with less than 2 seconds remaining in the 4th period. Scroll down until you get to the first clip in the “Comments” section. https://mobile.twitter.com/Rick_Sports10/status/1187937573412528129

Correct. Once a scrimmage kick is touched by the receiving team beyond the neutral zone, the continuity of downs is broken. Whoever ends up with the ball will have a 1st and 10 from the dead ball spot.

Obviously, the better the view, the more confident one would be of the call. The view is not optimal. I gave an opinion based on what I could see, and qualified it in that way. Make of it whatever you want.

Not sure what you mean by that. I do know there are people who believe in those situations you should keep your flag in your pocket and “let the players decide it.” The people who think that way are not officials, I can assure you. You call the last play of the game the same way as the first.

Oh, I thought you meant the first clip that came up. I scrolled down to the comments section and looked at that one. From that view, this is offensive pass interference. The strength of the formation is to the left side of the offense. That means the back judge keys on the widest eligible to that side. So, the player who fouled is the back judge’s responsibility, although the line judge could have picked this up, too. Enforcement would be a 15 yd. penalty from the previous spot. If time expired during the down, they would play an untimed down. Just my opinion.

I still don’t see a foul. There’s a little hand fighting between the receiver who caught the ball and the DB, but I would deem it incidental. Cannot see the “pick” well enough to determine if it’s OPI.

Thanks for posting that. Video did not show the contact well enough to determine who initiated it. I would say “inconclusive.”

Any chance of posting the video?

Addendum: By rule, any personal foul committed against the passer is enforced as roughing, since that enforcement is most advantageous to the offended team. The contact was clearly not late. Possible explanations are that the passer — who is by definition a “defenseless player” — was hit above the shoulders, or hit by the defensive player’s helmet, both of which can be personal fouls against a defenseless player. But frankly, I didn’t see either of those on the video.

If that was called roughing the passer, unless there was some additional contact after the camera moved with the ball, I respectfully disagree.

The thing about roughing the passer is it’s almost never caught on the video because the camera (as well as every eye in the house) always follows the pass.

I think they’re probably not opposed to the idea in general. I agree that with some guidelines as to how it is done, and how it can be used, it’ll probably happen at some point.

Funny story about that game. Brian Moore was the HFB coach at Seeger. In the pregame conference, I asked, as always, if they had any trick plays. He told me if they got to 4th down and less than 5, they’d line up in punt formation and then shift abruptly in an attempt to draw the defense into the neutral zone. I informed him that was a foul. He said they’d done it successfully several times that season. I told him they weren’t doing it tonight. Sure enough, they did it and we flagged them. The next week in the Dome they did the same thing — and got flagged for it then, too!

Close. I was the referee in the 2003 semistate game at AC against Seeger, when AC missed a chip shot field goal on the last play and lost 22-21. One of the best HS games I ever saw, and one of the games in our crew’s magical post-season run in 2003. Loved working at AC, and Rick Minnich was a great coach.

My understanding is that some officials have asked the IHSAA for permission to wear a GoPro during the game, for training purposes. The IHSAA said “no.”