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This interpretation is an example of applying common sense to the black and white of the rule book. The purpose of the rule prohibiting low blocks except in the FBZ while the ball is in the FBZ, is risk minimization. Blocks that occur between players on the line while the ball is still in the FBZ are considered OK because those restrictions do not allow the players to create the momentum that increases the risk of leg injuries. Thus, a block that occurs right at the snap is consistent with that philosophy. Any delay allows the players to generate more momentum, making the blocks more dangerous.
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Here's a part of a post I copied from another officials' forum that I frequent. Love to hear some officials comment on this … fans, coaches, too. "Score at half time in 9-3 with this particular coach’s team having the 3 points. They take the second half kick off and from about their own 40 break a TD run down their sideline. As I am trailing the play one of the offensive linemen blocks a defensive guy in the back about 30-35 yards behind the ball. Easy call no question. Drop the flag and my head coach comes unglued."
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Washington Dealt Unsportsmanlike Conduct Penalty For Attempted Camouflage
Bobref replied to Muda69's question in Officiating Forum
You're right about that. But IO is right on this one. -
The blocking rules don't change on a scrimmage kick, which is what a PAT is. The only blocking below the waist allowed is by a player on the line, against an opponent on the line, in the free blocking zone, while the ball is in the free blocking zone. Since a kick try is a long snap, that means the block must be instantaneous at the snap. Any delay and it's a foul.
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I was at Concord. It was a tale of 2 halves. Concord came out with a great passing attack and jumped out to a big lead. It was 34-7 at halftime, and Warsaw looked stunned. But the 2nd half was all Warsaw as they scored 21 unanswered with a power running attack, and had the ball at the end, but got stopped on downs near midfield. Very impressed with the Concord QB and their well-conceived passing attack. But most impressive on both sides were the place kickers. Both hit the end zone on kickoffs regularly. Great high school football game.
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Oh, he’s a well-documented whack job, but very entertaining.
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Interesting. These kids today ... SMH.
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Center Grove vs. Cathedral @Tech
Bobref replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Thank you. I’ll take a look at it. -
I’m not really sure what I’m looking at here. The mouth guards with the “teeth” depicted on them have been in use for a few years now, and are perfectly legal. But I can’t tell what that is above the mouth guard in the nose area. If it’s some sort of face paint, that is illegal.
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Yes, the Mercy Rule applies in the tournament.
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This is great. a must read!
Bobref replied to Gridiron_Junkie's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I think anyone planning on a coaching career would benefit greatly from some officiating experience. -
Center Grove vs. Cathedral @Tech
Bobref replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
PHJ, you know I have immense respect for you. I can’t comment on whether any particular fouls were justified or not. My only point is that sheer numbers don’t say anything about whether the game was well-officiated or not. You don’t complain about officiating, so I take what you said very seriously. If there’s video available, I’ll be happy to look at it and tell you what I think. But until I see it, I’m giving the officials the benefit of the doubt, numbers notwithstanding. -
Center Grove vs. Cathedral @Tech
Bobref replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
WHAT???? You can’t mean the webcast team got that wrong! Blasphemy! Sacrilege! In fact, of course, I didn’t say either of those things. -
And the down is replayed unless the targeting enforcement takes the ball beyond the line to gain, in which case it is a 1st down.
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Center Grove vs. Cathedral @Tech
Bobref replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I couldn’t care less what fans say. It’s not a popularity contest, and they’re not on the field. Maybe we should officiate the game from the stands, or impose quotas on flags? -
Center Grove vs. Cathedral @Tech
Bobref replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
A flawed analysis. There’s no such thing as “excessive” where personal fouls are concerned. Every play is a separate play. You don’t see something that meets all the criteria for a flag, but stop and say “I’ve already called 3 of those, so I won’t call this one.” Criticize individual calls as warranted or unwarranted. But the sheer number is meaningless. You call what needs to be called without regard for numbers. -
Center Grove vs. Cathedral @Tech
Bobref replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Geez, if the webcast crew said it, it must be true. -
He’s got all 3 attributes you want from an OL: great technique, immense strength, and he’s just nasty mean.
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Center Grove vs. Cathedral @Tech
Bobref replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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Center Grove vs. Cathedral @Tech
Bobref replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
You can’t get a personal foul penalty for “something they said.” Contact is required for a personal foul (except for fighting, where a swing and a miss is still a foul). -
The rule is very clear. A player must be replaced for a down, unless the halftime or an overtime intermission occurs if: “The helmet comes completely off during the down or subsequent dead-ball action related to the down without being directly attributable to a foul by an opponent.” Only explanation I can come up with, without seeing the play, is that the helmet only partially came off, and the player took it off the rest of the way to make some sort of adjustment before putting it back on. But that’s just a guess.
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Saw a great piece of officiating at the game I observed last night. Home team scored a TD on a short run with a big pileup at the goal line. After the play there was a bit of a scuffle and some name-calling. The home team coaches started out on the field, clearly as “peacemakers, but got out almost to the hash before the line judge threw his flag and ordered them back to the sideline. The crew conferred and called offsetting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties on each time, and a sideline warning on the home team. By the black letter of the rule book, that could have been USC on the home team. But after the conference, they decided to administer as a sideline warning. Perfectly appropriate, by a veteran crew, who understood that the rule book is only the starting point. Judgment and discretion prevailed. They got a big upgrade from me for that.
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If the dead ball foul occurs before the ball is ready for play on the next down, it’s always 1st & 10.
