Footballking16

How much does your preseason rankings factor when you move teams/up down? I know you had Cathedral pretty high in your initial rankings, somewhere ~30's. Where was Brownsburg initially ranked? While it makes sense on the surface to rank a team who has beaten another team head to head higher, it doesn't always work that way, especially when your rankings take into all consideration 50 states and literally 1000's of teams. Cathedral dropping 40 spots after losing to Brownsburg makes sense but where was Brownsburg initially ranked?

What's going on at Chatard that's allowing you to downplay them this year? They beat a very strong Brebeuf team in week 1 and played a very good Roncalli team to a near draw last week? They are heavy favorites to win 3A again this year.

This is the perfect example of where a change of scenery works in the favor of both parties. Penix gets another shot with a familiar coach in a familiar system while IU isn't handcuffed allowing Penix to command first team reps all summer only to lose him to another season ending injury. Indiana was able to go out and pick up a solid QB in their own right with Penix moving on. They would have been dead in the water this year had IU risked going all-in on MP and lost him to yet another injury.

Neither of the last two games came anywhere close to a running clock and this Cathedral team right now is nowhere near as good as any of the Cathedral teams the last two years.

Yeah he's been trying to downgrade this game since the beginning of the season. Chatard more than held their own against a big and physical Roncalli team who I think is better up front right now than Cathedral. Cathedral won pretty good these last two years, but those teams were two of Cathedral's better teams of all-time and both of those games were within the 4 TD margin he's predicting for this years contest. Cathedral won a hard fought contest in 2019 and lost in 2018. Chatard will undoubtedly play their absolute hardest as they do every game against Cathedral, and while I don't think the Trojans have the skill position players to defend the Irish for 4 quarters, they aren't going to lay down. I think Cathedral wins 35-17.

He completely gave up in the 4th quarter of his second game. How is that anything but alarming? You play the #2 team in the country to a near draw for 3 quarters and then just throw in the white flag to preserve your potential end of the year resume? Coward football and I 100% stand by that.

Brian Kelly will win a national championship at LSU before Marcus Freeman does at Notre Dame. You’re putting immense pressure on Marcus Freeman when you say that his predecessor sucks. I will be shocked if Freeman has half the success that Brian Kelly had, 2 games in and he already looks in over his head.

I’m not the one boasting about “only losing by 11 points to the #2 team in the country on prime time TV”, that’s you my friend. And I’m certainly not the one excusing the coach calling such a chicken sh*t 4th quarter for the team I root for. Again, that’s you my friend. ND is 0-2 under Freeman and has been absolutely schooled in the second half of both contests.

He was tackled in-bounds after getting a first down with 2 seconds left on the clock on a bang-bang play. Clock stops in college for the officials to re-spot the ball and move the chains. They would gotten a snap. And absolutely LSU would have had the momentum going into OT. All FSU had to do was take 3 knees, force LSU to take all 3 TO’s, and then kick a chip shot to go up 2 scores.

Ah. Missed that. Should have guessed that with North Side in there.

There’s 4 other programs with tutelage like that the last 5 years. You think any of those 4 would be boasting about keeping it “close” with another top 5 team?

Where’s Chatard?

Why would LSU go for 2 there? Home game with all the momentum in the world heading into OT. Even with hindsight, Kelly kicks the PAT 10/10 times there as he should. Kicking a PAT to send a game into OT is entirely different than punting down 2 scores with 4 minutes left effectively ending the game. Complete apples to oranges comparison.

OT does exist in college football…

A top 10 program hanging their hat on keeping a regular season game close. There’s an oxymoron if I’ve ever seen one.

Minnesota and Wisconsin appear to be the biggest threats to Purdue in the West but couldn’t get a real gauge as they played FCS team. Iowa once again figured out how to set back football 100 years in their win over FCS South Dakota State. I was encouraged by some of the things IU did Friday but they are still brutal in the trenches, especially on the O-Line. QB missed some throws high early on, but he at least looks the part of a competent QB as he can at least push the ball down the field and has some zip on the ball. IU having two WR go over 100 yards was refreshing given how dreadful the collective group was last year. Still think 6 wins is an uphill battle, but it would have been nearly impossible had they lost to Illinois.

Waving the white flag in a game that you dominated for 3 quarters is an absolute horse sh*t move. Those ND players deserved better. Not likely ND was going to win, but they didn’t even give themselves a chance. Disgraceful.

They absolutely were, and then just decided they didn’t care any more. I don’t understand that. But hey I guess an 11 point loss at Ohio State is much better on the resume than an 18 or even 25 point loss had they actually played aggressive and to win. Tells you where ND is at as a program.

You honestly watched that 4th quarter and got the impression Notre Dame was trying to win the game? I didn’t. Look I hate ND as much as the next guy, and happy that ND lost, but I will fully admit that Freeman had a great game plan coming in and the Irish executed well. That being said, it was blatantly clear that ND was trying to keep the game respectable and had no interest in winning. That’s BS if you ask me. You would NEVER see a team like Ohio State or Alabama or Georgia concede a game like that, nor would you ever see one of their fans hang their head on keeping a game close (moral victory). That’s the reality between those programs and ND.

Yeah, that’s why I’m angry lol. Must suck to know that both your high school and college teams are both has beens and no longer relevant.

And that right there is my entire point. Freeman coached that 4th quarter so that the Irish only lost by a respectable margin. He had no interest in winning or trying to win. That’s entirely weak. ND had 3rd and 21 on it’s second to last possession at the OSU 47 down 14-10. They run a 2 yard QB draw to set up a punt and took almost an entire minute off the clock by the time the ball was downed in a game they were LOSING. Why not throw a 10 yard in with the Ohio State defense conceding the middle of the field and let the WR get a few more yards upfield which would have given ND at least a chance at a makable FG and it still being a one score game if Ohio State scored a TD on their next drive (which they ultimately did). At worst it’s an incomplete pass and ND is still punting the ball away but would have saved an entire minute on the clock.

Lol. I’m happy ND lost. Any time ND loses whether it’s by 1 point or 100 points, it’s a good day. I do however find it utterly comical that fans like yourself sit here all off-season complaining about lack of national recognition or defense of the ND program, and then turn right around and defend the actions of a coach who blatantly playing to not get blown out. It’s why ND is a chicken sh*t. Good to know the Irish can finally claim a moral victory over one of the big 3. Congrats.

You need two scores dummy, not one. Punting the ball down 11 with 4 minutes left and 1 TO was the white flag.

What more evidence do you need when the freaking head coach is conceding the game? What on Earth were Freeman’s intentions then punting down 2 scores with 1 TO? He was conceding the game. He had two options: 1. Go for it on 4th and 20 to try and extend the game but risk losing massive field position that could possibly make final outcome greater 2. Decide that an 11 point loss is good enough of a showing and punt the ball away effectively ending the game. Freeman chose 2. Chicken sh*t football. How far Notre Dame fallen.

Clearly Marcus Freeman as evident by punting the ball down two scores with 4 minutes left and only one TO.