Footballking16

Oh they're terrible, and worst part they don't care. They would be on a relegation short list of P5 teams.

They had a great run but are about to be relegated to the levels at which they were pre-Harbaugh. The new transfer phenomenon and NIL have killed that program.

yeesh

9WINDIANA lol

They're on the road so who knows. I still think the Big 3 all hold serve at home when all said and done pitting a 3 way tie at the top of the East division creating some post-Thanksgiving chaos. No clue how the tiebreakers would unfold in that scenario.

Indiana has a better record and an identical conference record as Illinois (with a 2-0 H2H advantage) since Allen took over but still, Indiana is bottom of the barrel P5. Illinois has made a Rose Bowl in my lifetime.

Franklin did win 9 games twice at Vanderbilt. That's impressive. He's made some awful coaching decisions (QB read with McSorely on 4th and 6 against Ohio State) that get extra magnified, but he's been pretty solid there. They are extremely talented this year (and young) and they get a banged up Ohio State with inconsistent QB play at the right time. Wouldn't be shocked to see them spring the upset in Columbus Saturday gaining an inside track to the East championship.

Indiana won 8 games the year prior to COVID

Godlovske was a Rimington award finalist a few years back no? Miami OH and then ended at Oklahoma State.

He's still likely getting a nice $200-300k salary a year coaching TE's. I really don't know what he does at IU. The guy before him recruited both Ian Thomas and Peyton Hendershot (both NFL) and after inheriting Hendershot for his senior year, the TE room has been awful under Wright's direction. 2/3 top TE's this year are walk-ons with one being a lacrosse player from Chicago who came to IU without ever playing a down of football in high school.

Nobody is talking up anybody on here. @temptationstirred the pot in a thread he had no business doing it in.

lol. It's the IHSAA you want, not Chatard.

Neither should be coaching a B10 program. If they fire Allen just to promote Kevin Wright, well I'm done lol.

Both are high school coaches for a reason.

Cathedral hasn't played in their enrollment based classification in a DECADE. I have zero idea why they are always brought to the forefront of every single one of these mindless debates.

I'm shocked to hear a Gibson Southern fan chide what coaching and culture can do for a program. Gibson Southern was an absolute NOBODY until Nick Hart took over. You think GS recent success all under the helm of Nick Hart is coincidental? GTFOH.

Why is that my problem? IPS is about as poorly run as any school district in the entire state, why would you expect anything different?

You're forgetting vastly superior youth and feeder league support which I have always maintained is Cathedral's biggest strength. Can't go down the rabbit hole with you if you're aren't even willing to put your head in it. Nice Try though!

I'd be all-in on Hartline. Kane Wommack is quietly having a great start to his career at South Alabama after a good stint as Indiana's DC a few years back. You could convince me 64 year old Willie Fritz at Tulane as a 4-5 year band aid solution is a better option. The difference in buy-out between the end of this season and the end of next season is $12million. And while that may seem like a lot, especially if they fire him after this year with his $20million buyout, it's paid over the course of his remaining contract shelf life (5 years). Indiana is about to see a major media revenue boost to start next season when these PAC12 teams are set to join. Current deal is around ~$60 million and figures estimate the new deal to be around ~$90mil a year. Indiana can "afford" to fire Tom Allen after this year. The real question is, does Indiana actually want to invest in the program. I'm talking a brand new practice/indoor facility. A weight room that is exclusive to the football team (they share with other sports). And just an overall salary pool increase to not only attract, but keep quality assistants. You can fire Tom Allen and the next guy might be better, but nothing is going to last until the latter happens. And it may never happen.

Chatard's win over Cincinnati Elder Friday. And not just any win, but a statement, blowout win 34-7. Elder at 5-3 has losses to Ohio D1 #1 St. Edward (1 point) and D1 #2 Pickerington North (4 points) before getting roughed up by Moeller last week. Still have wins over both St. Xavier's and a team solid team from Philly. No clue what kind of shape Elder was in last week but I also think Chatard was without their starting QB. Impressive win by Chatard to end the regular season as they look to run the table for an undefeated season and state championship.

They actually had a 3 TD with with under 2 min to play. CG picked up a first down with about 2:30 left and Cathedral didn’t call a TO basically conceding the game down 2 scores. CG for whatever reason didn’t kneel it out and scored on the next play with just under 2 minutes left and then all the fireworks happened.

Fun game. Wished the outcome was different, but highly entertaining nonetheless. Cathedral needs to figure out it’s pass D quick.

Center Grove 45 Cathedral 38 Final. CG survives, literally. Irish scored 2 TD’s in the last minute but CG converted 3rd down inside their own 10 and avoided punting out of their own end zone.

Cathedral finally sustains a drive. CG 31 Cathedral 24 Refs losing control of this game quick. Missed consecutive late hit out of bounds before finally calling it the third time around. Getting chippy.

I lied. Cathedral hits a bomb and then recovers surprise onside kick and is on the move. 31-17 2 min left 3Q