Footballking16

How does a new school or new program have an existing team? Unless the word new has been redefined in the last 20 or so minutes?

@gonzoronI mean seriously, the title of the thread is "New Schools/Programs". Understanding that, not a single new school or new program is going to have an existing football program.

Lol. The literal idea of this thread is about potential new schools and/or new programs. Why wouldn't a school with a rapidly growing enrollment have the potential to start a football program?? Eat a Snickers man, geez.

Why? Is it a foregone conclusion that Faith Christian will never field a football team? I would say the biggest precursor to starting a football program is a growing enrollment. It took Covenant Christian almost 20 years to field their first varsity team. And it coincided with an enrollment spike.

I've heard "talks" for a few years about a potential third Fishers high school but nothing substantiated. I reckon we're still a ways out but I wouldn't be surprised to see Lawrence go to a 1 township high school here in the distant future. Consolidate LN and LC at around 3500-4000 students. Sooner or later Mount Vernon is going to get a fair amount of those kids as Hancock county continues to grow. Agree on Whitestown. Zionsville will take as many kids until they can't anymore and then it will likely force Lebanon to build a bigger high school.

IU is also breaking in a brand new OC and system, with a brand new QB, a bunch of new/inexperienced wideouts, a brand new RB room, and have two starters out on an offensive line that is already bad to begin with. Offense has been out of sync at times but they've already shown an infinite higher ceiling than last year. Bazelak has missed some throws and I attribute that some to lack of repetition in an unfamiliar system. But he can drive the ball downfield and IU has 3-4 receivers plus a big body TE that have shown the ability to get separation from defenders. That was almost non-existent last year and it made matters worse when Penix went out as neither Tuttle or McCulley could accurately drive home the ball downfield. My biggest concern is the defense. We all knew McFadden would be a big loss but other than he, IU has a bunch of experienced 3-4 year starters back and added a couple impact transfers from legit P5 programs. Defense isn't getting it done consistently right now. Tom Allen isn't calling an aggressive scheme like he did 2-3 years ago and IU just isn't good enough in the secondary to contain with a 4 man pass rush. I will agree that the 3-0 start is pretty pedestrian but at the same time 3-0 is 3-0. With the way last year ended, dropping 1 or 2 of these early winnable games could have been catastrophic for the rest of season outlook. I think this game at Cincinnati in a pretty hostile environment will set the tone for the rest of the season. I'm beyond moral victories with Tom Allen at this juncture but this is a game that I don't see Indiana winning. If they play with their hair on fire in this game and make it interesting my outlook changes some for the rest of the year. Get blown out and there may not be many, if any, wins left on the schedule.

Brohm is Kevin Wilson but playing in an easier division. Kevin Wilson was a wizard at going 5-7 and blowing 2-3 games a year on simple coaching malpractice.

He has a great gig in Washington after absolutely moving his way up the NAIA ranks at his alma mater in South Dakota. Think he can absolutely be a winner with Washington's pedigree, but ultimately conference alignment may dictate things. Not sure if Washington survives if they aren't eventually invited to the B10. He's moved each of the last 4 seasons so from Fresno St to Indiana back to Fresno State and then this last year to Washington so he may be ready to give it a rest for awhile, but Nebraska would be nuts not take a look at him.

And that's kind of my point. Led a flawless game winning drive at the end but should have never been in that situation in the first place. PSU had a double-digit half time lead and then all of the sudden Clifford starts missing throws high and wide and then eventually throws just a terrible pick 6 and PSU then has to hang on for dear life. PSU with even a semi-competent QB performance in the second half wins that game by 2-3 TDs.

Clifford is a game manager that has just enough left in the tank to make a play when you need it, but he's not going to go out there and beat OSU or UM without some serious help.

Clifford has terrible pocket awareness and doesn't throw it will enough to begin with when his feet are set so they are always moving the pocket and getting him downhill which leads to a lot of unnecessary hits. They run a ton of RPO and zone read as well which opens him up to even more contact.

If ND's front 7 can get to Maye and keep this from becoming a shootout I like ND's chances. But ND will be in trouble if this game is played in the high 30's/low 40's.

Next month of football will tell a lot about Lawrence Central. Played admirably against both HSE and Westfield to start the year and had the big win over Warren, but their schedule is brutal to close out the regular season; 3/4 last games are all on the road against Center Grove, Ben Davis, and Carmel. Getting through that meatgrinder relatively healthy may be priority #1.

Obviously. But Ohio State can withstand hiring a coach every 3 years need be, Notre Dame necessarily can't.

Same reason why a ton of high end coordinators never made it.

Well technically not yet, but not feeling good. Haven't been wrong about ND and Marcus Freeman though. Nice to get the first win off his back but he just looked uncomfortable on the sideline the entire afternoon. I don't see him making it more than 3 years.

I think Iowa fans are already over this season and are at crossroads with Ferentz and his son. If Iowa somehow manages to keep it close with Rutgers next week it might get ugly.

Penn State looked impressive against Auburn Saturday until you realized this is the worst fielded Auburn team in the last 50 years and their coach is a dead man walking. Give Penn State two years and they may be the best team in the B10 in spite of James Franklin. Two freshman RB's are going to be really good as they continue to develop and I think Allar is a potential top 5 pick down the road. But they will still have to overcome Franklin's in-game incompetence.

That was my third loss for Michigan when I had originally made the bet with you. Iowa would have to play 8 quarters to score enough points to beat Michigan. I still think the Wolverines get rolled by Ohio State in a revenge game from last year but I just don't see them losing any more than two games, if two at all.

Where do you see 3 losses on this Michigan schedule? I made a bet with @temptationin the offseason that Michigan wouldn't win 10+ games and am already regretting it. The B10 is awful this year and Michigan's schedule is extremely favorable. Their 3 hardest remaining games are home games against Penn State and Michigan State and an away game at Ohio State to end the year. I think at worst Michigan goes 10-2 but they will be a TD+ favorite in every game until the rivalry game with Ohio State.

So you would rank Minnesota ahead of Michigan (as you previously stated above) because Minnesota's SOS is one spot higher than Michigan? That's legit the worst rationale I've ever heard. Penn State is the only team in the B10 who comes close to making an argument that they should be ranked ahead of Michigan. Penn State is good, they aren't Michigan good.

They were in the CFB playoff last year. Penn State has routinely taken dumps outside the conference and Wisconsin hasn't beaten anybody to date AND has already lost at home to Washington State. 3-0 Minnesota hasn't played a soul either and there's no way they look better than Michigan right now. I hate to defend Michigan and Harbaugh, but outside Georgia, they look about as good as anybody in the country and I don't care who they've played. Penn State is the only team that you can even attempt to make an argument should be ahead of Michigan right now.

Nebraska is (was) horribly coached and their defense is just atrocious. No doubt it was an exciting game but when Northwestern does that to your defense it should have been foreshadowing. They've given up 31 to NW, 17 to an FCS team that was a game through 3 quarters, 45 to GA Southern, and 49 to Oklahoma who called off the dogs early.

1. OSU 2. UM 3. Penn St 4. Minnesota 5. Mich State 6. Maryland 7. Wisconsin 8. Purdue 9. Iowa 10. Indiana 11. Rutgers 12. Illinois 13. Northwestern 14. Nebraska

Well Purdue isn't 3-0, they're 1-2. And a 3-0 Purdue team would be ranked right behind Michigan and Ohio State had that been the case. There is still a level of an eye test that goes into this and despite playing 3 high school teams, Michigan looks the part. Wisconsin doesn't belong anywhere near this list. The lost at home to Washington State.