Footballking16

As I said there is entirely more to high school football than a win-loss record. It should not be taken away on that principle alone.

This is why I can’t take anything you say seriously. For years you’ve been the resident conference realignment expert and have been ascribing Carmel’s inevitable move from the MIC to the HCC citing SES factors, geographical ties, and school profiles. Now you’re balking at the idea for the HCC extending an invitation to Carmel? What gives? You’re so contrite in playing contrarian that you expose yourself as the biggest hypocrite on this board. The HCC would be clinically insane not to offer the states largest and most visible athletic profile an invitation.

What’s an athletic conference who just kicked out the two best athletic programs in the state supposed to say?

And when the MIC succumbs to athletic irrelevancy then what?

How on earth does a state-funded public school become an out of state athletic factory? Who on Earth is paying $30k a year to send their kid to a public high school in Indiana? Do you think before you type?

Better off in what regard? Competing for state titles? Not only will Center Grove and Carmel likely never voluntarily schedule a MIC school again, the mercy rule will be in the back of everyone's mind if/when it's applicable.

LOL. They're gone because they were voted OUT. Big 12 stands a much better chance of getting OU and Texas back than the MIC does getting CG and Carmel back. One set of schools voluntarily left, the other set was told to leave. Huge difference.

Center Grove and Carmel will be fine. That I'm sure.

Notice how the B12 didn't throw their arms in the air and unanimously vote Texas and Oklahoma out? Because the B12 knows those two universities aren't replaceable and if something with the SEC backfired they'd still have them as members. The MIC burned that bridge and to my knowledge Center Grove and Carmel haven't been accepted as members to another conference as it stands.

It's probably backwords thinking, but I still think most athletic decisions are rooted by the two main revenue sports which are Football and Men's basketball. Until today, the MIC was both the best basketball and football conference in the state. That will surely change. Do everything in my power to get them to stay just as any other business owner would? Not going to let two (in this case) unreplaceable employees leave without putting up a fight.

The MIC is still very competitive in most of those other 19 sports in comparison to the rest of the non-MIC schools. Not sure how removing Center Grove and Carmel helps them in the long run considering each of those sports playoff format is all-inclusive.

So again, forgive me for calling someone out trying to control a narrative that doesn't exist.

I mean maybe, but still don't understand why you'd kick out the two most visible programs in your conference. I get it if you're a school like Ben Davis and Warren Central who've had their thunder stolen by these two schools the last 5-10 years, but the MIC bottom feeders needs those two schools more than Center Grove in Carmel need them. Pike and North Central just went from being bad football programs in an elite football conference to bad football programs in just an ok conference. Perception means a lot.

So you agree with me? You can't tell the difference between forming an opinion and making a claim without any supporting data or evidence? Thanks for playing I guess?

There would have to be serious traction for CG and Carmel to already have open-ended invites to other conferences for the MIC to vote them out in the manner in which they did I would think. You just don't vote schools like Center Grove and Carmel out on a whim like that, hurting your conference profile.

Contracting a school's football program because they have no shot at winning a state title is about as bad as an idea there is. Much more to football at this level than winning.

Would Franklin Central and Avon voluntarily leave? Does the HCC vote them out to make room? Carmel to the HCC makes total sense given their geographical ties, CG not so much. Honestly think Center Grove is better served going independent, at least from a football stand point. Not sure if the current MIC teams would ever schedule Center Grove (and Carmel) again and vice versa, but I do think Center Grove would greatly benefit from being able to play a more regional football schedule. It would give them much more visibility if they were able to play the Cincinnati and Louisville power houses a couple times a year.

At this point the MIC just needs to focus on becoming the premier basketball conference in the state. Sans Cathedral, there isn't a feasible school the MIC could add that elevates their football profile. LC/LN one day potentially consolidating would make a good football program but there's no guarantee in that. I'd add Tech and Bloomington South if they strictly wanted to focus on being a basketball dominate conference, but even that seems out of the realm.

Justified sure, still equally as petty. If Alabama openly talked about becoming an independent on the premise of receiving their own TV deal with 100% revenue share you think the SEC is going to vote them out? Of course not.

Yes rumor has it. Let Center Grove and Carmel take their ball and leave if they're really about it. Petty move by the MIC.

1. Incredibly dumb move by the MIC. Not only are they going to lose statewide visibility, but also regional visibility. Many considered MIC to be one of the premier athletic conferences in the Midwest, voting out your two bread winners makes ZERO sense. 2. While this obviously paves the way for CG and Carmel to the HCC, let it be known this is not CG and Carmel leaving on their own accord for greener pastures. The HCC will soon become the premier conference in Indiana due to the MIC's own demise.

LOL. There is a 100% difference between "having an opinion" and then grandstanding the idea of contraction based on unfounded data and evidence as well as claims of hyperbolic and anecdotal evidence of catastrophic injuries that haven't occurred. Please don't fall into the category of not being able to distinguish between the two. I don't think I could possibly set the bar any lower for you as is. I have no problem with DT opining in his beliefs on contraction. But for the love of God do it on merit. "I said so" or "common sense" isn't a basis for which to form an opinion. Data however is and he hasn't provided a single source of evidence to back his claim.

Calling you out on your BS isn't a personal attack by the way.

Like I said, there's a reason why people in power don't take you seriously.

Oh wow, forgive me for not subscribing to something that isn't rooted in statistical data? If it was so rational you could provide at least one example of one of these catastrophic injuries you keep bringing alluding too, no? You've had all weekend to come up with something? Do you need more time?