Footballking16

Definitely fair, respect is earned. Still not buying a move to the HCC is an upgrade for Carmel and Center Grove in terms of competitiveness from a football standpoint.

Totally get that. That has a chance to backfire as well. With a landlocked 9 game HCC schedule, there's going to be years where CG only gets 4 home games and they have no control as to who that opponent is. I'm guessing the CG athletic department is going to be disappointed when opponents like Noblesville, Franklin Central, HSE, and Fishers come to town. Those schools don't travel like you think especially down to Johnson County.

Assuming he stays healthy, O'Neil has a very good chance at being a complete three year starter at QB which is very rare at Cathedral. Believe he already holds a few MAC offers despite never starting a game. That is saying something.

I think Lawrence North has a good staff in place. I think they will only continue to get better especially as the talent in Lawrence Township continues to sway towards Hague Rd. As far as North Central goes, if Coach O'Shea stays to see things through I believe they are the sleeping giant in 6A.

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Carmel will go north in the next classification cycle and there's a chance they stay north for good if Zionsville reaches the 6A threshold which seems imminent. Would mean the only chance Carmel has at playing BD or Warren is in the state finals and there's a zero percent chance in that scenario they play both teams in any given year. That would be a travesty for Indiana High School football. I disagree. Warren and Ben Davis are still better than any two other teams the HCC has to offer on a consistent basis and Center Grove would lose its game to Cathedral at the end of the year which has quietly become one the better "friendly" rivalries in the state. It's a barn burner every year. North Central is proving to be a worth opponent and is a natural rivalry with Carmel (or at least used to be) and Lawrence North is definitely on the upswing. I don't think any team is going to rattle off 4 in a row at the 6A level nor win 6 in 10 years with or without conference realignment. Is that in the current climate or dependent on Carmel and/or Center Grove making the move?

Doesn't make much sense from a visibility standpoint. I get Carmel and CG to the HCC makes sense if you're talking about competitiveness in all sports, but football and basketball will always be king in Indiana. Center Grove and Carmel landlocking themselves to a 9 games HCC only schedule, really hurts their visibility at the regional and national level.

Brownsburg and Avon?

That's the unintended consequences of NIL. With State and potentially Federal Law stating that the NCAA can't regulate players profiting off their image and likeness, what purpose does the NCAA stand to serve anymore? As you proposed, you'll likely see anywhere from 3-5 super conferences all collude and then collectively form their own league in basketball and football and negotiate their own TV deals and cutting off the heads of the rest of the remaining NCAA member schools. The NCAA as it stands today makes billions of dollars off TV deals for March Madness and the CFB Playoff that they redistribute back to the member schools to fund scholarship programs. Unless you're in one of those super conferences I don't know how you survive? I think you'll start to see many schools go the club model route. In general its bad if you ask me.

They went 8-5 two years ago and 6-2 last year and are now starting to see the dividends on the recruiting front. Two best winning % seasons IU’s had in 3 decades, not sure what you mean that it hasn’t shown on the field yet?

With college athletics essentially becoming de facto semi-pro leagues in the revenue generating sports, should academic accreditation really be gauged? OU and UT happened for one reason: $$$. The term student-athlete really doesn’t apply anymore. Kansas and Iowa really do nothing for the B10 if you look at the bigger picture. Neither of those schools football programs are going to move the needle in media re-negotiations and they’re simple going to cut into the existing members revenue share. There’s 3-4 schools from a financial standpoint that make sense; Notre Dame, Clemson, UCLA and USC. If you can’t get any of them, don’t bother. Sometimes less is more

Just landed 4* RB G'Bran Payne from Cincinnati LaSalle. Chose IU over Florida, Alabama, and Northwestern.

He has another 4-8, 5-7 type season he most certainly should/will be on the hot seat. You don’t pay a coach $6mil/yr to go sub .500 three consecutive years. Don’t care what the circumstances are.

He might do well on the west coast given none of his competition out there plays defense either, but if Chip Kelly can't hack it at UCLA I struggle seeing Brohm doing it.

This hurts Ohio State in my opinion. Ohio State has done a phenomenal job recruiting Texas the last decade pulling top recruits away from both Texas and Oklahoma many a times. Would have to think OU and Texas joining a big boy conference entices those recruits to stick around. Texas A&M jumping to the SEC a few years back lead to an uptick in recruiting really quick.

Because momentum in both recruiting and progress in each program is going in opposite directions and losing a top flight in-state recruit with Purdue ties to a rival school who historically hasn't recruited all that way would not have been a good look. As an IU fan I can get on board with this and hope it plays out this way.

Almost felt like that was a battle Purdue HAD to win over IU. They got a good one.

So culture and coaching does play a big part 🙂 ? Thanks, just wanted to hear you say it.

What about Penn, North Central, Pike, Lake Central?

LN also has had generational type talent these last few years and still has a losing record against BD in said time frame. Simmons inherited a BD program the year after going 14-0 ending as one of the states all time best teams that lost an absolute ton to graduation. Simmons has had some injury and youth situations early on. As we all know its cyclical for every program.

Younger son Derek

I've maintained for awhile that CG's biggest hurdle in the South is Ben Davis. Young team last year that only got better.

If you can secure it in LOS, it may have some life, otherwise don’t see that many people interested watching a high school football all-star game in the middle of December outdoors. Still think you’d get a fairly watered down product. Guessing most of the players good info to make the all-star football team are likely playing basketball as well, especially in the lower classes. Summer works for the IN-KY bball series because it doesn’t interfere with any other sanctioned sports.

So you mean to tell me that most schools in Houston and Dallas aren’t consolidated into 6500 students? Wild conjecture I’m sure.

Why?