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Again, I'll ask, why is our current success factor not enough to address this issue?

So this is essentially full on promotion? Not so much relegation, but that is an unintended consequence no?

No doubt that it sounds like the Administration has, shall we say, not covered themselves in glory, but would this have not been true for whoever the next coach is going to be? Even if it were a long time Sheridan assistant or a former player, wasn't the transition to whoever is to be next going to be difficult for anyone even under the best of circumstances? Nobody ever wants to be the guy to follow "the guy" right?

This is pretty much the case... I only coached against him once years ago, but it was one of those nights that you definitely remember; to be on the same field as a legend... and have that legend clock you by 50...

This right here. To the ardent multiplier crowd, a question: why is a multiplier necessary as opposed to or in addition to what is already being done with the success factor?

No, I get it completely, I still disagree with the premise. And I get the argument that you are making in regard to the numbers not being the same, my point is this; even if you are correct, which I don't think you are, let that play out on the field and if/when those advantages are born out, you adjust accordingly, i.e. the success factor. I see no reason however to, without seeing it born out, just slapping a random number multiplier on it; it is illogical at best and nefarious at worst. What we have seems to work just fine, why mess with it?

That's what this all seems to be boiling down to. I guess I don't see an issue with what is currently being done here in Indiana with the success factor. It's not perfect, for example I'd rather see it calculated based on a 3-5 year window rather than 2, but I've always had a problem with the implication of a multiplier which is "students who attend private schools are better (for whatever reason, athletically, financially, etc) so they need to be counted differently." They are high school students just like public school kids whose families have made decisions decisions based on factors that are important to them. At least the success factor is based on actual play on field over the course of a measurable period of time and not some random number someone cooks up to, as FastpacedO alludes, make people feel better. Also, hot take: this thread doesn't get past 4 pages before it gets shut down... I'm perfectly willing to be wrong though

Is this the actual goal though? Pretty sure you are being tongue in cheek, but even if you are, isn't this year kind of proof that the success factor has been a success at least to some degree?

Won't be the last time I'm wrong, thanks Bob.

Bob will correct me if I'm wrong, but all the ball has to do in order to NOT be a safety is break the plain of the goal line. Therefore, I would assume that once the ball breaks the plain, it must be placed in such a anger that it not touch the goalline at all, hence the one yard line? Either that or you saw the replay wrong 🤪

State Championship Games: 6A Westfield vs. Brownsburg 5A Warsaw vs. Decatur Central 4A East Noble vs. New Palestine 3A FW Luers vs. Heritage Hills 2A Adams Central vs. Linton 1A North Judson vs. Providence

Semi-State Games: 6A Crown Point @ Westfield Brownsburg @ Center Grove 5A Merrillville @ Warsaw Decatur Central @ Bloomington South 4A East Noble @ Mishawaka Martinsville @ New Palestine 3A Garrett @ FW Luers Batesville @ Heritage Hills 2A Adams Central @ Andrean Linton @ Indy Lutheran 1A South Adams @ North Judson South Putnam @ Providence

Semi-State Games: 6A Crown Point @ Westfield Brownsburg @ Center Grove 5A Merrillville @ Warsaw Decatur Central @ Bloomington South 4A East Noble @ Mishawaka Martinsville @ New Palestine 3A Garrett @ FW Luers Batesville @ Heritage Hills 2A Adams Central @ Andrean Linton @ Indy Lutheran 1A South Adams @ North Judson South Putnam @ Providence

Looking back at my picks, I meant to have Center Grove, not Warren Central. Sorry, I'm on my phone and can't figure out how to edit my original post.

6A Carroll (FW) @ Crown Point Westfield @ Fishers Lawrence North @ Brownsburg Center Grove @ Warren Central 5A Valparaiso @ Merrillville Lafayette Jeff @ Warsaw East Central @ Decatur Central Castle @ Bloomington South 4A New Prairie @ Mishawaka New Palestine @ Indy Chatard Evansville Reitz @ Martinsville 3A Knox @ Garrett FW Luers @ Maconaquah Tri-West @ Batesville 2A Andrean @ Laf. Central Catholic Brownstown Central @ Linton 1A North Miami @ South Adams Milan @ Providence

I think 32-0...

4A Sorry for being tardy, quite the week. If I'm too late that's cool.

I'll jump in late... 6A Carmel @ Zionsville Fishers @ Noblesville Ben Davis @ Pike 5A Michigan City @ Chesterton Concord @ FW North McCutcheon @ Kokomo Bloomington South @ TH South 4A New Prairie @ Hobart Logansport @ Lebanon Indy Roncalli @ Brebeuf Ev. Reitz @ Jasper 3A Jimtown @ Mishawaka Marian Griffith @ Knox Cascade @ Tri-West Madison @ Scottsburg 2A Western Boone @ Laf. Central Catholic Rochester @ Eastern (Greentown) Centerville @ Lapel South Vermillion @ Linton 1A Tri-County @ Taylor South Adams @ Tri North Davies @ Perry Central

No, they knew that the result would not be overturned. This was more to formally bring attention (as opposed to the informal attention brought here and on social media) to the processes outlined in the letter.

This is 100% the case. The fact that Covington played even 8 man games at the Jr. High level this year will go a long way to ensuring that kids develop properly.

No, it was torrential and presented a safety hazard, which is why our game was called at the beginning of the 4th. No doubt that had it been a one score game, it would have gotten postponed to Saturday, at the very least delayed due to weather conditions. Weather is undoubtedly a part of the game, but there comes a point where common sense has to prevail.

And the SV-RP game was also the geographically most southern game last Friday night, which does matter because conditions definitely worsened the further south you went. Just saying...

I initially thought the same about the placement of the scoreboard, but actually, you have to REALLY get ahold of one to hit it. Three of us coaches tried the other day from an extra point distance and it's incredibly difficult.

They were in the Western Indiana Conference, which looks worse on paper, but they also have utilized division play for several years, which mitigates that issue a bit. Conference travel distances are an issue for more than just football. It is easy to get siloed in this regard, but unless South Vermillion was to go independent for football only, as Linton has done, considerations must be made for sports who have travel through the week, not just on Friday nights. There are, of course, ways to minimize that impact (scheduling of baseball and softball doubleheaders for example) but still, schools would prefer not to have kids out super late on Tuesdays and Thursdays any more than they have to.

No disagreement, I just don't think the travel distances are a super easy sell. Maybe they aren't that bad, I haven't sat down and done the math, but at first glance they would be very out of place there. Either way, Coach Barrett and his staff have done a great job over the past few years!