Stat Keeping Rules and Verification Questions.

[WCGrad92]

Figured I could start a topic on some stat keeping questions that some may have on how to score a game.

 

My first question is this.

 

Team A has the ball on their own 20 yard line.

Team A runs the ball with #23 and he advances to the 38 yard line, but holding is called on Team A at the 28 yard line.

Does #23 get rushing yardage to the 28 yard line for 8 yard rushing, and then the penalty of 10 yards for holding is accessed, making the next play 1st and 12.

 

Thanks for any answers to this questions, and if anyone else has any, please ask them here, I would love to see them.

[hhpatriot04]

18 hours ago, WCGrad92 said:

Figured I could start a topic on some stat keeping questions that some may have on how to score a game.

 

My first question is this.

 

Team A has the ball on their own 20 yard line.

Team A runs the ball with #23 and he advances to the 38 yard line, but holding is called on Team A at the 28 yard line.

Does #23 get rushing yardage to the 28 yard line for 8 yard rushing, and then the penalty of 10 yards for holding is accessed, making the next play 1st and 12.

 

Thanks for any answers to this questions, and if anyone else has any, please ask them here, I would love to see them.

He gets rushing yardage to the spot of the hold, so 8 yards, yes. Team gets (-10) yards in penalty yards. Ball is put on the 18 yard line, making it 1st and 12.

[Bobref]

1 hour ago, hhpatriot04 said:

He gets rushing yardage to the spot of the hold, so 8 yards, yes. Team gets (-10) yards in penalty yards. Ball is put on the 18 yard line, making it 1st and 12.

So, he gets to keep rushing yardage even though the down is replayed?

[hhpatriot04]

27 minutes ago, Bobref said:

So, he gets to keep rushing yardage even though the down is replayed?

Yes. As I remember. He did advance the ball.

[Donnie Baker]

That boy from Winamacs knows more about stats than anyone I know. I swear to God he does 

[WCGrad92]

he does indeed , even if 1st down is replayed.

[from_the_sidelines007]

All:

Having a football stat discussion with a colleague.

 

This is what we have ...

first down, ball on the defense 12 yard line ... so 12 yards from the end zone.

offense hands the ball off to #15, who takes the ball the distance for a touchdown.

 

Any other statistical facts on this one other than the stats of the 12 yard run for #15?

 

Thanks!

as always, the game is better

from_the_sidelines007

 

 

 

[WCGrad92]

1 Carry 12 yd Rush for #15 and a Rushing TD.  

 

If anyone is keeping these types of stats,  you could also have Linemen getting Pancake Blocks(we do not have anyone counting these for our team)

[from_the_sidelines007]

6 hours ago, WCGrad92 said:

1 Carry 12 yd Rush for #15 and a Rushing TD.  

 

If anyone is keeping these types of stats,  you could also have Linemen getting Pancake Blocks(we do not have anyone counting these for our team)

 

Would there also be a rushing first down since 10 yards is also part of the play?

 

 

as always, the game is better

from_the_sidelines007

[WCGrad92]

4 hours ago, from_the_sidelines007 said:

 

Would there also be a rushing first down since 10 yards is also part of the play?

 

 

as always, the game is better

from_the_sidelines007

that was what else i thought it could be, but i wasn't sure if anything ever counts a 1st down on a TD

 

[Daniel_Bragg]

11 hours ago, WCGrad92 said:

that was what else i thought it could be, but i wasn't sure if anything ever counts a 1st down on a TD

 

I'm almost positive that they don't score first downs and TDs on the same play.  It's either/or.

[WCGrad92]

ill try it out on my stat program practice game, see if it awards a 1st down on a TD play

[WCGrad92]

it does in fact give a 1st down to the scoring team on a TD, no matter the distance, from outside the 10, and inside the 10

 

[WCGrad92]

but looking it up they are not supposed to.

 

No, a team doesn't get a first down on scoring plays in football, but they can score points once they reach the end zone. A first down is earned when the offense advances at least 10 yards in four downs, or plays, with the ball. If the offense is successful, they get another four downs to try to advance another 10 yards. If they don't make 10 yards, they turn the ball over to the other team. 

[from_the_sidelines007]

On 8/1/2024 at 4:16 PM, WCGrad92 said:

but looking it up they are not supposed to.

 

No, a team doesn't get a first down on scoring plays in football, but they can score points once they reach the end zone. A first down is earned when the offense advances at least 10 yards in four downs, or plays, with the ball. If the offense is successful, they get another four downs to try to advance another 10 yards. If they don't make 10 yards, they turn the ball over to the other team. 

 

Hey Guys!

 

I did some further digging on this first down during scoring topic and located the following:

 

Statistics are to be compiled on all first downs made via rushing, passing, and penalties. First downs are compiled only from plays originating from the line of scrimmage.

A first down shall be credited on each touchdown resulting from rushes or forward passes, regardless of the distance covered.

 

I am a bit confused on how to contunue to calculate accurate stats for the team.

Thoughts?

 

as always, the game is better

from_the_sidelines007