2025 NFL Offseason

[Coach Nowlin]

 

17 hours ago, Sparty said:

Future HC’s

Washington OC stock soaring

Detroit’s OC and DC plummeting 

Daniels is light years ahead of Williams.  

Washington Organziation is light years ahead of Chicago  (see what happens when awful ownership is replaced......) 

fixed it for you, 

Recency Bias is quite the phenomenon

 

[Sparty]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

 

Washington Organziation is light years ahead of Chicago  (see what happens when awful ownership is replaced......) 

fixed it for you, 

Recency Bias is quite the phenomenon

 

Lol

[Boilernation]

2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

 

Washington Organziation is light years ahead of Chicago  (see what happens when awful ownership is replaced......) 

fixed it for you, 

Recency Bias is quite the phenomenon

 

Daniel's is a solid QB. And as you said a replacement in ownership brought in a good HC and a good OC. Daniel's also has a solid OL blocking for him. Caleb played behind a garbage OL, had an OC who grossly overcomplicated the offense for a rookie QB and then another OC who didn't change the offense. To try comparing the 2 at this point is about as pointless as when people compared RG3 to Luck after their rookie years. They're both very good QB's and have a lot of ball left to be played. 

Ironically, that same HC is who the Bears infamously flew middle seat coach to Chicago when he was up against 'Flus for the job. 

[Coach Nowlin]

If you think Daniels has the type of year he has if they simply just flipped him and WIlliams spots your are big time cray cray 

 

Send a giant thank you to Trace Armstrong, this goes back to 1993 rookie hold out Trace and 3rd year on the job Ted Phillps....

McCaskey's just can't stop themselves......

[Sparty]

I said what I said.  Not saying some good points weren’t brought up but Daniels is much better than Williams.  

[Coach Nowlin]

13 hours ago, Sparty said:

I said what I said.  Not saying some good points weren’t brought up but Daniels is much better than Williams.  

What qualtifeis "MUCH BETTER" 

62.5% 3541` yards passing 20 tds 6 int 

69%   3568 25 tds 9 ints     Yes, his rushing stats have helped his overall game

One QB had a full year without much turmoil, the other guy had HC, OC both fired within first 7 weeks. 

POINT is this, after 1 NFL season, painting the SParty brush so broadly is just not something that I choose to do, I choose to understand that in the game of football, espeically at the NFL level, opinions such as yours can easily change within next 3 years........

Bottom line, both players IMO, are going to be very good NFL players for the respective organizations.   

[Sparty]

10 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

What qualtifeis "MUCH BETTER" 

62.5% 3541` yards passing 20 tds 6 int 

69%   3568 25 tds 9 ints     Yes, his rushing stats have helped his overall game

One QB had a full year without much turmoil, the other guy had HC, OC both fired within first 7 weeks. 

POINT is this, after 1 NFL season, painting the SParty brush so broadly is just not something that I choose to do, I choose to understand that in the game of football, espeically at the NFL level, opinions such as yours can easily change within next 3 years........

Bottom line, both players IMO, are going to be very good NFL players for the respective organizations.   

1 is playing for a chance to get to the Super Bowl and the other doesn’t know how to call a TO.  

[Boilernation]

20 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

What qualtifeis "MUCH BETTER" 

62.5% 3541` yards passing 20 tds 6 int 

69%   3568 25 tds 9 ints     Yes, his rushing stats have helped his overall game

One QB had a full year without much turmoil, the other guy had HC, OC both fired within first 7 weeks. 

POINT is this, after 1 NFL season, painting the SParty brush so broadly is just not something that I choose to do, I choose to understand that in the game of football, espeically at the NFL level, opinions such as yours can easily change within next 3 years........

Bottom line, both players IMO, are going to be very good NFL players for the respective organizations.   

Hot take culture. It's wild. Look at these 2 guys from their rookie years: 
 

Player A: 63.8 completion %, 3,725 passing yards, 27 TD's, 14 INT's

Player B: 52.8 completion %, 2,074 passing yards, 10 TD's, 12 INT's

No GM in the League would currently take Player A over Player B and it's been that way for years. 

 

Edited January 20, 2025 by Boilernation

[Coach Nowlin]

1 hour ago, Sparty said:

1 is playing for a chance to get to the Super Bowl and the other doesn’t know how to call a TO.  

So your saying that the Game of Football success of one's team is soley on 1 position called Quarterback.  Nothing else should be considered.   

Interesting ..........

[Coach Nowlin]

1 hour ago, Boilernation said:

Hot take culture. It's wild. Look at these 2 guys from their rookie years: 
 

Player A: 63.8 completion %, 3,725 passing yards, 27 TD's, 14 INT's

Player B: 52.8 completion %, 2,074 passing yards, 10 TD's, 12 INT's

No GM in the League would currently take Player A over Player B and it's been that way for years. 

 

exactly 17 games does not define one's career arc 

For some sure......I choose understanding of what it takes to succeed and at times the time it takes 

unfortuneatly some live in the hot take world and quickly label athletes, especially football players playing QB busts all too soon.   I guess I am able to sift through that noise

[Sparty]

16 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

So your saying that the Game of Football success of one's team is soley on 1 position called Quarterback.  Nothing else should be considered.   

Interesting ..........

I’m not.  Everybody else does.  Roll the tape.  

[Coach Nowlin]

So if Caleb Williams and Daniels switch spots, are the results the same?  

I say yes because of my what my EYES have seen 

[Sparty]

50 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

So if Caleb Williams and Daniels switch spots, are the results the same?  

I say yes because of my what my EYES have seen 

Nah.  You didn’t take off the moronic Stevenson from the bears.  

[Coach Nowlin]

2 hours ago, Sparty said:

Nah.  You didn’t take off the moronic Stevenson from the bears.  

thanks for proving my point 

 

[Coach Nowlin]

Your only basis to say Daniels is better was he is playing for a trip to the super bowl and Caleb is not

I showed you stats of passing (give the daniels leg stats makes him more dynamic but also plays in system that wants to use his legs more where Caleb is more of pocket guy who can escape when needed)  eerlier simuilar , you answered reasoning is because of your own eyes

yet here we Bears lose a game they had won, against Daniels in Daniels home field, to go to 5-2 and yet the play in question did not involve Caleb in the slightest, nor the play before where Bears gave them yards free needed so Daniels could actually reach the EZ, arm strength he couldn't make it before the free yards, but yes...Daniels is MUCH BETTER then Caleb Williams....... got it.    

Could it be possible that both QBs have exceptional talent that could be fostered for many future succeses 

 

[Sparty]

Again. I said what I said.  

Plus, Daniels doesn’t paint his fingernails nor carry a purse.  Leader of men, amiright?

[Coach Nowlin]

6 hours ago, Sparty said:

Again. I said what I said.  

Plus, Daniels doesn’t paint his fingernails nor carry a purse.  Leader of men, amiright?

how many games did Caleb do that ?> 

I know the answer do you ? 

Or do you just go with the narratives that pull you in to click bait it ? 

I have Zero issues thus far with the Caleb Williams led rookie year, but I also dig deeper to Headline catching clicks and AM radio 

You did say what you said, more than entitied to your opinion, doesn't mean you are correct either.  You have yet to quantify any REASON as to why you think Daniels is let me check notes again, yup, "MUCH BETTER" than Caleb Willams, only evidence you provided was his making the playoffs and making it to nFC title game, which we all know is not a 1 man job, but hey, your eyes NEVER lie do they??     

Bottom line:   WAY TOO EARLY for those to make assumptions on players in the NFL after 17 games, but you do you brah ...... did I do that  right? 

 

Also, welcome back to the NFL, I remember vividly, how much you used to talk about these parts how much YOU DO NOT WATCH THE NFL,  seem to know a whole lot about the chicago bears and nfl in generall for someone who proudly talked about how they don't watch it ...... so Welcome back 

[Bash Riprock]

22 hours ago, Sparty said:

1 is playing for a chance to get to the Super Bowl and the other doesn’t know how to call a TO.  

Daniels is awesome...no doubt.  But I'd say he has a  better supporting cast that Williams....with the O line, star receiver and a crafty vet at TE.  Maybe the gap would be considerably smaller is they had the same tools....

[Sparty]

9 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

how many games did Caleb do that ?> 

I know the answer do you ? 

Or do you just go with the narratives that pull you in to click bait it ? 

I have Zero issues thus far with the Caleb Williams led rookie year, but I also dig deeper to Headline catching clicks and AM radio 

You did say what you said, more than entitied to your opinion, doesn't mean you are correct either.  You have yet to quantify any REASON as to why you think Daniels is let me check notes again, yup, "MUCH BETTER" than Caleb Willams, only evidence you provided was his making the playoffs and making it to nFC title game, which we all know is not a 1 man job, but hey, your eyes NEVER lie do they??     

Bottom line:   WAY TOO EARLY for those to make assumptions on players in the NFL after 17 games, but you do you brah ...... did I do that  right? 

 

Also, welcome back to the NFL, I remember vividly, how much you used to talk about these parts how much YOU DO NOT WATCH THE NFL,  seem to know a whole lot about the chicago bears and nfl in generall for someone who proudly talked about how they don't watch it ...... so Welcome back 

What is so hard to understand that I believe my eyes.  

[Coach Nowlin]

You atttack Williams leadership because of his choice of Man Satchels , you call purse, which in the culture of Pro athletes is a thing, doesn't have to be your thing, but to opin that his leadership is non existent because of his choice of walking into the game or hallas hall with fashion bag and once again the horror of painting nails..... which I will let you in on a little secret.....he didn't paint his nails every game......did you know that?   hurry go google, to get your answer 

glad youre back paying attention to the NFL,  they have missed you 

2 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

Daniels is awesome...no doubt.  But I'd say he has a  better supporting cast that Williams....with the O line, star receiver and a crafty vet at TE.  Maybe the gap would be considerably smaller is they had the same tools....

I would agree on OL but the MAJOR difference was guys who wore the headsets and no pads was the difference.    I would say that McClarin was very good, but in a more stable situation , DJ Moore , Keenen Allen, Rome Oduze, Kmet as a group is probably more successful and better weapons than what Washington put out there.  Kudos to their staff on scheming O to maximize what Daniels does well 

[Bobref]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

You atttack Williams leadership because of his choice of Man Satchels , you call purse, which in the culture of Pro athletes is a thing, doesn't have to be your thing, but to opin that his leadership is non existent because of his choice of walking into the game or hallas hall with fashion bag and once again the horror of painting nails..... which I will let you in on a little secret.....he didn't paint his nails every game......did you know that?   hurry go google, to get your answer 

glad youre back paying attention to the NFL,  they have missed you 

I would agree on OL but the MAJOR difference was guys who wore the headsets and no pads was the difference.    I would say that McClarin was very good, but in a more stable situation , DJ Moore , Keenen Allen, Rome Oduze, Kmet as a group is probably more successful and better weapons than what Washington put out there.  Kudos to their staff on scheming O to maximize what Daniels does well 

What impressed me most about Williams was that he played all 17 games. The most important ability is availability. And he did so while getting sacked 69 times, most in the league. He got knocked down another 41. That total of 110 was second in the league, behind only Joe Burrow … who had 90 more pass attempts than Williams. That’s how you show leadership in the locker room. You keep going out there even when your o-line is a sieve.

[Coach Nowlin]

I enjoyed listening to CW on the St Brown pod last week, how he goofed on himself for getting catfished by now his new HC , but he did say it was good time to change his number after having it since his young teen days.   Talked about his season and some other stuff I found impressive.   I get he is not for every caveman out there but his talent and skill is something Chicago has never had ( sorry not sorry Jay Cutler) 

[Sparty]

Guess Kliff Kingsbury had something to do w Daniels hmmmmm

[Coach Nowlin]

2 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Guess Kliff Kingsbury had something to do w Daniels hmmmmm

he did , never said otherwise 

[Boilernation]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

You atttack Williams leadership because of his choice of Man Satchels , you call purse, which in the culture of Pro athletes is a thing, doesn't have to be your thing, but to opin that his leadership is non existent because of his choice of walking into the game or hallas hall with fashion bag and once again the horror of painting nails..... which I will let you in on a little secret.....he didn't paint his nails every game......did you know that?   hurry go google, to get your answer 

glad youre back paying attention to the NFL,  they have missed you 

I would agree on OL but the MAJOR difference was guys who wore the headsets and no pads was the difference.    I would say that McClarin was very good, but in a more stable situation , DJ Moore , Keenen Allen, Rome Oduze, Kmet as a group is probably more successful and better weapons than what Washington put out there.  Kudos to their staff on scheming O to maximize what Daniels does well 

Waldron would go an entire game without scheming Kmet into the passing game.