Muda69 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 36 minutes ago, Irishman said: Are the Bears bluffing??? Maybe. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. 1 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 20 Posted February 20 25 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Maybe. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. Yup: If anything , this causes JB and crew to throw the Hail Mary to stop the all out blitz Indiana has been putting on. I still say 60/40 Arlington...... this is up from roughly 80/20 Arlington I was sitting at in my head prior to the last 2 days Quote
Sparty Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Irishman said: Are the Bears bluffing??? I’m nowhere close to the situation as our good pal @Coach Nowlin, but imo, I think the bears are very serious and willing to move to NWI. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 20 Posted February 20 This was Bears Brass last public showing of their strength, Braun was good on clip I heard today, said something to effect he doesn't think that they are being used, all they are doing and staying ahead and providing great opportunities for business to move to our state, and that message is for the Bears and everyone else as well. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 20 Posted February 20 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sparty said: I’m nowhere close to the situation as our good pal @Coach Nowlin, but imo, I think the bears are very serious and willing to move to NWI. follow the $$. Not just initially, but over time. Different business environments in both states. I'm going to say 50/50 with a lean toward NWI unless Fatboy really comes to the table and can convince the Bears they are a long term business partner. Edited February 20 by Bash Riprock Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 20 Posted February 20 I was 80/20 to start the week on Arlington Today after yesterdays noise: I am 60/40 Arlington.... 3 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: I was 80/20 to start the week on Arlington Today after yesterdays noise: I am 60/40 Arlington.... haha. forgot I already said this: I am on one this week let me tell ya 1 Quote
Sparty Posted February 20 Posted February 20 40 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: I was 80/20 to start the week on Arlington Today after yesterdays noise: I am 60/40 Arlington.... haha. forgot I already said this: I am on one this week let me tell ya Coach its all good man. We are all entitled to those. i thought you were doubling DAHN 1 Quote
23andCounting Posted February 20 Posted February 20 The Bears are using NWI for leverage. Illinois will ante up. They've been losing the politics battle with Indiana for years, they don't want to lose this one. I'm 85/15 in favor of Arlington. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 20 Posted February 20 If accurate, that has to change if Illinois wants a shot…. Quote
23andCounting Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said: If accurate, that has to change if Illinois wants a shot…. That's just pretend, right? Certainly no one in their right mind would pay those rates. Quote
Muda69 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Fiscal impact statement on Bears stadium bill outlines millions in tax increases: https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2026/02/23/fiscal-impact-statement-on-stadium-bill-outlines-millions-in-tax-increases/ Quote A fiscal note on the proposed Chicago Bears stadium construction package shows northwest Indiana residents could pay millions in new taxes, which could grow with use by visitors to the region. The statement — prepared by the nonpartisan Legislative Services Agency — still includes many unknowns but does provide some baseline revenue estimates for hospitality-related taxes. Under Senate Bill 27, a state-crafted authority would take out bonds to build the stadium. A bevy of taxes would provide revenue to make the annual bond payments. The exact cost of the project is unknown at this time though the Chicago Bears have committed $2 billion and House Speaker Todd Huston said Thursday in unveiling the plan that as much as $1 billion in public funding could be involved. The bill allows Lake and Porter counties to each adopt a 1% food-and-beverage tax by June 30, 2027. Revenue from these taxes would go to the Northwest Indiana Stadium Board. If both counties impose the 1% food-and-beverage tax, they could collect an estimated total of at least $12 million to $18 million annually, according to the fiscal estimate datedFriday. The estimate is based on the existing food services industry in each county and revenue collected in counties that currently impose such taxes. “The actual amount of revenue in Lake and Porter counties would likely be greater to the extent the stadium project results in increased demand for food and beverages,” it said. The bill allows Lake County to increase the local hotel tax rate from its current 5% to 10%. The county council is required to adopt an ordinance increasing the tax rate by June 30, 2027. Revenue received from the hotel tax increase could be at least $5.4 million annually. But the statement says “the actual innkeeper’s tax revenue distributed to the board would likely be greater once the stadium and other facilities have been built.” Hammond could also establish a 12% admissions tax on tickets for events held in the stadium. The tax is imposed on tickets offered for sale to the public at a box office or authorized agent, and does not apply to season tickets or a personal seat license. All revenue collected would go to the Northwest Indiana Stadium Board to pay debt owed by the board. The fiscal estimates the tax would generate around $12 million annually once the facility begins holding events. However, the revenue could be greater depending on the events that are held at the stadium. The 10% Marion County admissions tax, which applies to events held at Lucas Oil Stadium, Victory Field, Gainbridge Fieldhouse and the Indiana Convention Center, generated $31.3 million during fiscal year 2025. Another provision in the bill would create the Northwest Indiana Professional Sports Development Area. It could include any facility or complex of facilities that is used to hold a professional sporting event, including a stadium, parking garages, training facilities, and other related areas as specified in the bill. It provides for allocation of covered taxes, including taxes paid for wages earned by athletes playing home games in a sporting facility, to the tax area. It defines covered taxes as state sales and use tax; individual income tax; local income tax; food and beverage taxes. Those revenues can be used for costs related to financing, construction, operating, maintaining and administration of the facilities established as part of the area. The fiscal analysis said the total capture for the new tax area is unknown, but it will be less than the Marion County Professional Sports Development Area. That area — containing three sports facilities, a convention center and training facility — brings in over $16 million a year. One final section of the bill allows dollars captured through a renegotiation of the Indiana Toll Road lease in 2026 to be used by the Indiana Finance Authority to pay or reimburse any costs associated with transportation and infrastructure projects in the following counties associated with the stadium relocation: Elkhart, LaGrange, Lake, LaPorte, Porter, Steuben and St. Joseph. An information request with the IFA is currently pending concerning how much in revenue could be received from a renegotiation of the lease of the Indiana Toll Road, the fiscal report said. Senate Bill 27 is set for a second reading in the Indiana House on Monday and will be finalized by Friday, when this year’s legislative session is set to conclude. Indiana: Land Of Taxes. "The Region" even more so. Yet another reason to stay away........ Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1% Lake County Food/Beverage... . That's a nothing burger for me in Lake County Don't stay in Hotels in Lake County... Already get taxed from Ticketmaster and Soldier Field Like I said before, I spend a lot of time each year around Keystone / Carmel/ Downtown, any county tax in those areas has not even been close to being "felt" by me the consumer. For instance: Football Clinic in Indy vs Clinic In Chicago.... Fact is everything is more expensive in Chicago then Indy when I am on my clinic trail 1 Quote
Muda69 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 16 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Like I said before, I spend a lot of time each year around Keystone / Carmel/ Downtown, any county tax in those areas has not even been close to being "felt" by me the consumer. I feel it, but then again I must not be as wealthy as you. Food and hotel taxes are out of control. Good thing I only plan on being in the downtown Indianapolis area for one day this year, for GenCon 2026. Will be staying at a relative's place and will probably bring most of my own food. That makes it somewhat affordable for the average person. Quote
Sparty Posted February 25 Posted February 25 45 minutes ago, Muda69 said: I feel it, but then again I must not be as wealthy as you. Food and hotel taxes are out of control. Good thing I only plan on being in the downtown Indianapolis area for one day this year, for GenCon 2026. Will be staying at a relative's place and will probably bring most of my own food. That makes it somewhat affordable for the average person. What is GenCon? What if GenCon has tenderloin sandwiches? Quote
Muda69 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 38 minutes ago, Sparty said: What is GenCon? What if GenCon has tenderloin sandwiches? The world's largest tabletop gaming convention: https://www.gencon.com/ There may be some food truck vendors selling BPT's. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: I feel it, but then again I must not be as wealthy as you. So expected.... 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 25 Posted February 25 3 hours ago, Muda69 said: Good thing I only plan on being in the downtown Indianapolis area for one day this year, for GenCon 2026. Will be staying at a relative's place and will probably bring most of my own food. That makes it somewhat affordable for the average person. not shocked at all to read this from you.......both attendance and manner of attendance...... Must be a ton of "above average" people that attend this and other Indy conventions........ Quote
Muda69 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said: not shocked at all to read this from you.......both attendance and manner of attendance...... Thriftiness is a virtue, is it not? 1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said: Must be a ton of "above average" people that attend this and other Indy conventions........ Hmm, that is somebody apparently playing some kind of video game. Not what GenCon is primarily about. Nice try. 2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: So expected.... Sorry that the truth hurts. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 25 Posted February 25 22 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Thriftiness is a virtue, is it not? Hmm, that is somebody apparently playing some kind of video game. Not what GenCon is primarily about. Nice try. ok...whatever you say? What's your planned costume this year? Quote
Muda69 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 24 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: ok...whatever you say? What's your planned costume this year? Not into Cosplay, sorry. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Sorry that the truth hurts. Tell me this Truths you speak of Love to hear your truth on how you can somehow gleam from my posts that my financial situation makes me "much more wealthy". than you...... From someone who enjoys talking about personal choice and freedoms, you sure do become awful judgmental when someone in this case, myself, has chosen to have a belief system on its financial impact of an extras maybe, just maybe $1.23 on a purchase inside the county in question as some somehow makes me "wealthy" in your eyes. Classic Quote
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