Hoosier Hills Conference

[Impartial_Observer]

2 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

You had a Seymour address because the Seymour post office is the one that was assigned to deliver your mail. My address includes a city I live ten miles from. There are small towns with post offices that are closer to me. Nevertheless, my address is of the city instead. A buddy of mine that works for the USPS explained it to me awhile back.

By the way, this is what I was referring to.

 

Clarksville always lost a few kids to other local schools. Clarksville has gone thru some really tough times in terms of administrations not being committed to athletics. Coach Cooley shared some stories with me when he was there and all I can say is wow. Clarksville has experienced growth, but of the retail kind, I see most of the area Jeff/Clarksville and to a lesser extent N.A., as part of the metro area. People are fleeing urban centers for the suburbs. Now all that being said, young energetic AD, I LOVE what Levi is doing there, brings back an iconic name to the city……we’ll see. 

[Frozen Tundra]

4 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Clarksville always lost a few kids to other local schools. Clarksville has gone thru some really tough times in terms of administrations not being committed to athletics. Coach Cooley shared some stories with me when he was there and all I can say is wow. Clarksville has experienced growth, but of the retail kind, I see most of the area Jeff/Clarksville and to a lesser extent N.A., as part of the metro area. People are fleeing urban centers for the suburbs. Now all that being said, young energetic AD, I LOVE what Levi is doing there, brings back an iconic name to the city……we’ll see. 

I’m just discouraged with how many programs are struggling, especially in football. Seems like numbers and interest have really dwindled over the last 10-15 years and I think it’s hurting the sport overall. I also think there’s becoming a bigger separation between the haves and have-nots. I’d like to see more programs thrive even if they aren’t winning. Just stinks to see.

[Fkfootball]

4 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Clarksville always lost a few kids to other local schools. Clarksville has gone thru some really tough times in terms of administrations not being committed to athletics. Coach Cooley shared some stories with me when he was there and all I can say is wow. Clarksville has experienced growth, but of the retail kind, I see most of the area Jeff/Clarksville and to a lesser extent N.A., as part of the metro area. People are fleeing urban centers for the suburbs. Now all that being said, young energetic AD, I LOVE what Levi is doing there, brings back an iconic name to the city……we’ll see. 

Getting Jason Hawkins was a coup. He's 3-3. And while that may not get people all fired up, they definitely have something to build towards.

18 minutes ago, Frozen Tundra said:

I’m just discouraged with how many programs are struggling, especially in football. Seems like numbers and interest have really dwindled over the last 10-15 years and I think it’s hurting the sport overall. I also think there’s becoming a bigger separation between the haves and have-nots. I’d like to see more programs thrive even if they aren’t winning. Just stinks to see.

Floyd Central has almost 140 kids in their program (9th to V). Coach Bragg told me their #s are way up across the board all the way down to Youth Football. A lot of my friends and cousins are coaching the youth football and they definitely have #s. 

Edited September 30, 2025 by Fkfootball

[Frozen Tundra]

7 minutes ago, Fkfootball said:

Getting Jason Hawkins was a coup. He's 3-3. And while that may not get people all fired up, they definitely have something to build towards.

Floyd Central has almost 140 kids in their program (9th to V). Coach Bragg told me their #s are way up across the board all the way down to Youth Football. A lot of my friends and cousins are coaching the youth football and they definitely have #s. 

Columbus East and Floyd Central are the only HHC schools with freshman teams. East beat you guys on Saturday and claimed an HHC freshman football championship despite only needing to go 1-0. It’s bizarre and sad only two of the seven schools can field a freshman team when there were eight freshman teams 10-15 years ago. And now you have Jennings County that couldn’t even field a JV team for a week due to a lack of depth.

[Fkfootball]

7 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Columbus East and Floyd Central are the only HHC schools with freshman teams. East beat you guys on Saturday and claimed an HHC freshman football championship despite only needing to go 1-0. It’s bizarre and sad only two of the seven schools can field a freshman team when there were eight freshman teams 10-15 years ago. And now you have Jennings County that couldn’t even field a JV team for a week due to a lack of depth.

I was told your Freshman team is extremely good. They must must be, because our Freshman crushed Whiteland.

Edited September 30, 2025 by Fkfootball

[Impartial_Observer]

9 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Columbus East and Floyd Central are the only HHC schools with freshman teams. East beat you guys on Saturday and claimed an HHC freshman football championship despite only needing to go 1-0. It’s bizarre and sad only two of the seven schools can field a freshman team when there were eight freshman teams 10-15 years ago. And now you have Jennings County that couldn’t even field a JV team for a week due to a lack of depth.

Seymour had planned on a frosh team and apparently had enough upperclassmen opt out at the end of summer. Not sure what the circumstances were. Seymour’s JV is essentially a frosh team and beat a “C” team from FC. I think if Seymour can keep these kids they currently have getting their asses kicked every Friday around for a couple more years, with what’s coming along, I think they’ll be alright. 8th grade class is undefeated tri-co champs, 7th grade has gotten better as the year has progressed. Purely outsider looking in, just what I see on the field. 
 

Also, BNL OL may be the BEST JV OL I’ve ever seen. 

[Frozen Tundra]

I’ve heard Beech Grove used an academically ineligible player for the first three weeks of the regular season and had to forfeit those three wins as a result. Therefore, Jennings County is now 3-3 on the season. John Harrell hasn’t updated this yet and, surprisingly, Kyle Neddenriep hasn’t tweeted anything about it yet either. However, I saw a post about it on the Indiana High School Football Fans Facebook page and had it confirmed by an assistant football coach.

[Frozen Tundra]

Week 7 Schedule

BNL (5-1, 4-0 HHC) at 5A #10 Floyd Central (5-1, 3-0 HHC)

Jeffersonville (2-4, 1-2 HHC) at New Albany (0-6, 0-2 HHC)

Seymour (0-6, 0-4 HHC) at Jennings County (3-3, 0-2 HHC)

Columbus East (3-3) at Bloomington North (3-3)

Edited September 30, 2025 by Frozen Tundra

[Fkfootball]

7 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Seymour had planned on a frosh team and apparently had enough upperclassmen opt out at the end of summer. Not sure what the circumstances were. Seymour’s JV is essentially a frosh team and beat a “C” team from FC. I think if Seymour can keep these kids they currently have getting their asses kicked every Friday around for a couple more years, with what’s coming along, I think they’ll be alright. 8th grade class is undefeated tri-co champs, 7th grade has gotten better as the year has progressed. Purely outsider looking in, just what I see on the field. 
 

Also, BNL OL may be the BEST JV OL I’ve ever seen. 

Was also told that Seymour's 8th grade team is very good.

[ptr]

9 hours ago, Fkfootball said:

I was told your Freshman team is extremely good. They must must be, because our Freshman crushed Whiteland.

I normally stay out of the conversations on this thread unless there is something I can contribute. 

While the Olympians were beaten by the Bloom. South JV team, 38-14, back on 8/23, the Panther freshman team lost to the O's freshmen team  14-0. The South freshman team played the O's a second time on 9/6 and again lost to the O's 14-6. I haven't seen a roster on the South freshmen and have not attended any of their games, so I don't know if the better freshmen players on that team have been elevated to the JV team or what. 

It has absolutely nothing to do with the HHC, but this past weekend after the Southport game at South, the JV team was scheduled to play the Roncalli JV team and I have not seen a score on that one yet, while the freshman team was scheduled for another game with the Bloom. North freshmen which was delayed to another date. The whole point of this is that Southport is a 6A school with a large enrollment, and their football program has dropped to such a low level that they can't field a JV team or a freshman team. 

[Frozen Tundra]

22 minutes ago, ptr said:

I normally stay out of the conversations on this thread unless there is something I can contribute. 

While the Olympians were beaten by the Bloom. South JV team, 38-14, back on 8/23, the Panther freshman team lost to the O's freshmen team  14-0. The South freshman team played the O's a second time on 9/6 and again lost to the O's 14-6. I haven't seen a roster on the South freshmen and have not attended any of their games, so I don't know if the better freshmen players on that team have been elevated to the JV team or what. 

It has absolutely nothing to do with the HHC, but this past weekend after the Southport game at South, the JV team was scheduled to play the Roncalli JV team and I have not seen a score on that one yet, while the freshman team was scheduled for another game with the Bloom. North freshmen which was delayed to another date. The whole point of this is that Southport is a 6A school with a large enrollment, and their football program has dropped to such a low level that they can't field a JV team or a freshman team. 

This just supports one of my previous posts about how high school football has taken a hit in this state. If Southport can’t even field a JV then there are problems.

[ptr]

1 hour ago, ptr said:

I normally stay out of the conversations on this thread unless there is something I can contribute. 

While the Olympians were beaten by the Bloom. South JV team, 38-14, back on 8/23, the Panther freshman team lost to the O's freshmen team  14-0. The South freshman team played the O's a second time on 9/6 and again lost to the O's 14-6. I haven't seen a roster on the South freshmen and have not attended any of their games, so I don't know if the better freshmen players on that team have been elevated to the JV team or what. 

 

I might add that the Bloomington North freshman team had a home game this past weekend with the Jeffersonville freshmen and for whatever reason that game was canceled and I assume it's because they don't have a freshman team. Bloom. North substituted a game with the Bloom. South freshmen and I haven't seen the results of that game. Frozen Tundra indicated that there were only two teams fielding freshmen teams and that was East and FC. Jeffersonville is another 6A team with a big enrollment that should be able to field a freshman team. 

Edited September 30, 2025 by ptr

[boilerfan87]

BNL (5-1, 4-0 HHC) at 5A #10 Floyd Central (5-1, 3-0 HHC)

Jeffersonville (2-4, 1-2 HHC) at New Albany (0-6, 0-2 HHC)

Seymour (0-6, 0-4 HHC) at Jennings County (3-3, 0-2 HHC)

Columbus East (3-3) at Bloomington North (3-3)

[Impartial_Observer]

4 hours ago, ptr said:

I might add that the Bloomington North freshman team had a home game this past weekend with the Jeffersonville freshmen and for whatever reason that game was canceled and I assume it's because they don't have a freshman team. Bloom. North substituted a game with the Bloom. South freshmen and I haven't seen the results of that game. Frozen Tundra indicated that there were only two teams fielding freshmen teams and that was East and FC. Jeffersonville is another 6A team with a big enrollment that should be able to field a freshman team. 

It is my understanding that both Parkview and River Valley in Jeff and Scribner and Hazelwood in N.A. are only fielding one team. Doesn’t sound good. Throw in the mix th number of V games being cancelled. 

[Frozen Tundra]

30 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

It is my understanding that both Parkview and River Valley in Jeff and Scribner and Hazelwood in N.A. are only fielding one team. Doesn’t sound good. Throw in the mix th number of V games being cancelled. 

This is proof that, as much as we want it to, the HHC is never going to get better at football.

[LC_Bears_04]

8 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Week 7 Schedule

BNL (5-1, 4-0 HHC) at 5A #10 Floyd Central (5-1, 3-0 HHC)

Jeffersonville (2-4, 1-2 HHC) at New Albany (0-6, 0-2 HHC)

Seymour (0-6, 0-4 HHC) at Jennings County (3-3, 0-2 HHC)

Columbus East (3-3) at Bloomington North (3-3)

Floyd Central

Jeffersonville

Seymour

Bloomington North

[Fkfootball]

2 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

This is proof that, as much as we want it to, the HHC is never going to get better at football.

I just don't understand why #s are down so much? It's happening all over the country. I remember a time when every kid couldn't wait to put on a helmet. Our #s are still pretty good at FC. But that school and community just has so many people that seem invested in football and in other sports too. I wouldn't lose hope with the HHC though. Like I said, I've got cousins coming up, or cousins coaching, friends coaching, their kids playing. I've talked a lot about the area teams. You guys are right. East has a strong FR team. Seymour has a strong 8th team. Our 8th team lost to the River Valley/Parkview team in the area championship game. I haven't seen the BNL JV but if IO says they're good, I'm taking his word with it. After Floyd graduates this current Jr class in 2027, they're gonna fall back to the pack where a lot of these other teams will be trending up. Should be a competitive conference. Other than NA, which nobody can figure out what is going on there? Steve Cooley is a pretty respectable couch, but that talent pipeline seems pretty dry. But FT is right. We are so far away from competing with the conferences up North.

[Impartial_Observer]

Numbers are dropping for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which is Football is hard. Also 2025 marks the 20th Anniversary of the big CTE study and subsequent 60 Minutes piece….. Club is probably starting to influence things more than most of us know, I think we’re living in dangerous times as it relates to education based Football. 

[Fkfootball]

59 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Numbers are dropping for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which is Football is hard. Also 2025 marks the 20th Anniversary of the big CTE study and subsequent 60 Minutes piece….. Club is probably starting to influence things more than most of us know, I think we’re living in dangerous times as it relates to education based Football. 

You're probably right and that honestly sucks.

[Frozen Tundra]

Week 7 Picks

BNL (5-1, 4-0 HHC) at 5A #10 Floyd Central (5-1, 3-0 HHC): After seeing Floyd Central in person last week, I have some concerns about their secondary. If the Highlanders don’t clean that up or don’t get pressure on the QB then they might have some trouble coming away with a win. The Stars have the #2 passing offense in the state and the Highlanders have a solid offense themselves so this game could be a shootout. I’ll take BNL in a close one. Floyd Central has won six of the last seven in the series and leads 31-24 overall.

Jeffersonville (2-4, 1-2 HHC) at New Albany (0-6, 0-2 HHC): The Bulldogs were outscored 13-2 last week in the final 13:23 of the game and blew what was possibly their best shot at a win this season. Enter the Red Devils who had a much easier time putting up points against the one common opponent thus far, BNL. While New Albany seems to have improved over the last couple weeks offensively, I don’t think they have the capability defensively to get a win this week. Jeff gets the W. The history on this series looks to be incomplete but Almanac Sports has it deadlocked at 42-42-2. New Albany has won three of the last four. Last year, Jeff picked up their first win in the series in four years and their first regular season win in the series in five years.

Seymour (0-6, 0-4 HHC) at Jennings County (3-3, 0-2 HHC): Seymour’s third straight game against a team from a community located on U.S. 50 looks to be the most winnable game of the season. While the Panthers will be celebrating senior night, the Owls are hopeful they’ll be able to secure their first win and get out of the HHC basement. If common opponents are any indication, Seymour shouldn’t have any problem here. The Owls score the victory. Seymour leads the series 49-10 and has won the last ten games.

Columbus East (3-3) at Bloomington North (3-3): The Cougars play their second straight HHC opponent and their third of the season. Likewise, the Olympians play their third Conference Indiana opponent of the season. Don’t have much to say here except reiterate how much of a disappointment East has been. I don’t see Bloomington North struggling. The Cougars get the win to complete their 3-0 HHC sweep while East completes their 0-3 Conference Indiana shutout. By the way, it’s worth mentioning Ed Vogel is currently 0-17 against non-conference opponents as Columbus East’s head coach. Yikes! The Olympians lead the series 12-7 but the Cougars have won the last three.

[Fkfootball]

Floyd Central

Jeffersonville

Seymour

Bloomington North

[Fkfootball]

36 minutes ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Week 7 Picks

BNL (5-1, 4-0 HHC) at 5A #10 Floyd Central (5-1, 3-0 HHC): After seeing Floyd Central in person last week, I have some concerns about their secondary. If the Highlanders don’t clean that up or don’t get pressure on the QB then they might have some trouble coming away with a win. The Stars have the #2 passing offense in the state and the Highlanders have a solid offense themselves so this game could be a shootout. I’ll take BNL in a close one. Floyd Central has won six of the last seven in the series and leads 31-24 overall.

Jeffersonville (2-4, 1-2 HHC) at New Albany (0-6, 0-2 HHC): The Bulldogs were outscored 13-2 last week in the final 13:23 of the game and blew what was possibly their best shot at a win this season. Enter the Red Devils who had a much easier time putting up points against the one common opponent thus far, BNL. While New Albany seems to have improved over the last couple weeks offensively, I don’t think they have the capability defensively to get a win this week. Jeff gets the W. The history on this series looks to be incomplete but Almanac Sports has it deadlocked at 42-42-2. New Albany has won three of the last four. Last year, Jeff picked up their first win in the series in four years and their first regular season win in the series in five years.

Seymour (0-6, 0-4 HHC) at Jennings County (3-3, 0-2 HHC): Seymour’s third straight game against a team from a community located on U.S. 50 looks to be the most winnable game of the season. While the Panthers will be celebrating senior night, the Owls are hopeful they’ll be able to secure their first win and get out of the HHC basement. If common opponents are any indication, Seymour shouldn’t have any problem here. The Owls score the victory. Seymour leads the series 49-10 and has won the last ten games.

Columbus East (3-3) at Bloomington North (3-3): The Cougars play their second straight HHC opponent and their third of the season. Likewise, the Olympians play their third Conference Indiana opponent of the season. Don’t have much to say here except reiterate how much of a disappointment East has been. I don’t see Bloomington North struggling. The Cougars get the win to complete their 3-0 HHC sweep while East completes their 0-3 Conference Indiana shutout. By the way, it’s worth mentioning Ed Vogel is currently 0-17 against non-conference opponents as Columbus East’s head coach. Yikes! The Olympians lead the series 12-7 but the Cougars have won the last three.

I have some concerns about our Secondary as well. We lost our CB1 this past May to a tragic accident. God rest his soul. I definitely think it's going to be a close game. Floyd Central plays so much better at home than they do on the road. If this were in Bedford, I do believe I'd take the Stars. I think FCs advantage is that their running game is very strong. They're top 10 in the state in rushing. I think Bragg will try to eat the clock and keep BNLs QB on the sideline.

[ptr]

13 hours ago, Fkfootball said:

I just don't understand why #s are down so much? It's happening all over the country. I remember a time when every kid couldn't wait to put on a helmet. Our #s are still pretty good at FC. But that school and community just has so many people that seem invested in football and in other sports too. I wouldn't lose hope with the HHC though. Like I said, I've got cousins coming up, or cousins coaching, friends coaching, their kids playing. I've talked a lot about the area teams. You guys are right. East has a strong FR team. Seymour has a strong 8th team. Our 8th team lost to the River Valley/Parkview team in the area championship game. I haven't seen the BNL JV but if IO says they're good, I'm taking his word with it. After Floyd graduates this current Jr class in 2027, they're gonna fall back to the pack where a lot of these other teams will be trending up. Should be a competitive conference. Other than NA, which nobody can figure out what is going on there? Steve Cooley is a pretty respectable couch, but that talent pipeline seems pretty dry. But FT is right. We are so far away from competing with the conferences up North.

I can't help but think that the football coaches in the HHC would have to be or be somewhat lukewarm to having Bloom. South and Col. North joining the HHC. It could be a case of those two programs dominating the football side of things, unless there is more student involvement, player-wise, from the other HHC programs. I know that South had 93 players report for the first official practice this year in grades 10-12, so they still have a lot of involvement from students. I don't know what the numbers were like at Col. North. Maybe I'm all wet on this, but I could see that being the case.

[Impartial_Observer]

42 minutes ago, ptr said:

I can't help but think that the football coaches in the HHC would have to be or be somewhat lukewarm to having Bloom. South and Col. North joining the HHC. It could be a case of those two programs dominating the football side of things, unless there is more student involvement, player-wise, from the other HHC programs. I know that South had 93 players report for the first official practice this year in grades 10-12, so they still have a lot of involvement from students. I don't know what the numbers were like at Col. North. Maybe I'm all wet on this, but I could see that being the case.

Plus there’s the CE/CN never being in the same conference thing, if that’s still a thing. Get rid of Jeff and NA I’d be down. 

[Frozen Tundra]

28 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Plus there’s the CE/CN never being in the same conference thing, if that’s still a thing. Get rid of Jeff and NA I’d be down. 

That’s always been rumored but I’ve never heard anyone actually confirm that East and North can’t be in the same conference.