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Brownsburg’s win over Westfield last year DOES qualify as getting run over by a truck though.

I mean, I wasn’t at the game and actually agree on your travel statement in terms of it being a minuscule factor but didn’t Westfield get down big early? (And I’m not sure a 3 point double OT loss qualifies as getting run over by a truck.)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t you repeatedly cited how lucky Snider was lucky to get past Mishawaka in the tournament last year? How is my comment about Westfield/Crown Point any different?

Zero non-Indy 6A teams get the benefit of the doubt from me until they do it consistently. Call me whatever you want. As teams lose, rankings shuffle and you can’t really punish a team that continues to win against the teams on its schedule but Crown Point at #2 is laughable. Hell, I felt guilty putting em in front of BD and CG in my poll. Seems like we have this conversation every year. Only thing missing is “ rankings don’t matter” guy.

Nah, they caught Westfield on the right night. They are a top half HCC team, which is going to be perceived as disrespect but is a compliment in and of itself.

Nah, not quite. They have risen to a mid-level MIC/HCC team which is respectable but have a ways to go before they are mentioned in the same breath as BD and CG.

Crown Point, lol.

Schools of 4500 don't get to use the "youth" excuse.

Possibly true but I like to hit the reset button after week 1 and eliminate any preconceived notions I had in the offseason. Cathedral and Westfield had the two most impressive wins state wide Friday night over proven programs.

Your claim that “defenses made big plays.” More like self-inflicted, shoot yourself in the foot, undisciplined type of turnovers based on what I saw. Throwing into double coverage, muffed punts, etc..

C’mon.

7 combined turnovers…you may have called the margin and low scoring affair but even you didn’t see that coming. I have no Warren allegiance by the way. Check my posting history.

1. Brownsburg and Cathedral this week should be appointment viewing television. Brownsburg wins the state championship in August and September every single year and I wonder how much they kept vanilla against Dwenger…whereas could Cathedral have a let down after last week’s big win? 2. I wasn’t there, but Fishers built an early lead on North Central and then I checked the final score which makes me believe that North Central scored garbage time points against the Tigers’ backups. No evidence. Just a hunch. 3. Me too. Can they break into the top four? 4. HSE strikes me as the real deal. 5. As someone else posted in a different thread, interested in both Avon and Lafayette Jeff going forward in terms of what Friday night’s game tells us. 6. Can they break into the top four? 7. Agree. No disrespect to Pike as I think they’ll be better but Zionsville is gonna struggle to find wins unless they improve dramatically unless Friday was just a bad night. 8. Also didn’t watch, just saw highlights, but also saw that Center Grove had an early lead and Westfield came back. Looks like big plays were the difference prepared for someone to tell me if I am wrong. Could be mistaken, but also feel like there was one big trick play (HB pass ?) sprinkled in there somewhere.

FIVE turnovers and you win by 15, lol.

4-3, yuck.

5-3, yuck.

Yes but both teams also repeatedly shot themselves in the foot which is not a characteristic of a state title contender. We can chalk some of it up to early season rust but title contending teams don’t do these things and if they do, the other team capitalizes more often than not. I spoke out of turn earlier earlier this month in claiming that Warren had the best defense in the state last year and then back tracked after I dug deeper into the numbers, but now I might be right back in that same camp. These are the same kids just a year older and the reason they were on the wrong side of many of those losses last year was because their defense could only do so much and eventually the damn broke after the offense repeatedly played undisciplined football. Good news for both teams, as I mentioned, that there is no runaway winner this year in 6A. We’ve got two months to sort things out, but Mike Kirschner’s Warren teams have a clear identity at this point in his tenure..and it ain’t good. As for Snider, they’ve seen the best defense they will all year and that offensive line will grow but I can’t see them putting up enough points on a Westfield/HSE in the tournament should they get that far.

Nah, miss me with this. Four turnovers (-2 in turnover margin) and you still win by two possessions? That’s a rare occurrence in football. Neither of these teams are state title contenders until I see more. The good thing for them is there are 8 weeks left in the season and I expect parity in 6A for a change.

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. No offense to Snider, but there will be tougher teams on Warren’s schedule and I have a hard time taking them seriously as a contender without an offensive identity and consistency. They’ll roll Warsaw but afterwards, there’s only one more gimme (NC) on the schedule before the tournament.

Deion to FSU rumors by November?

Usually takes a couple of weeks for the offense to catch up to the defense but if I were a Warren fan, it’d be cautious after watching that last night. Taking nothing away from the Snider D, but from my vantage point (limited) Warren looked reminiscent of last year on offense and really looked most competent when the backup (non transfer) QB was in.

So, the argument could be made that even though the Warren turnovers did not lead to any Snider points, the 15 point margin of victory could have been worse? Couple that with Warren’s lack of a kicking game and I’m thinking Snider was fortunate to only lose by two scores. I know at least 1 of Warren’s INTs was in the end zone…

Not even sure this Warren defensive line is the best in SCHOOL history. I could be wrong, but I believe in 2010 they had five D1 guys on the line alone. Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Cincinnati and two at Ball State. The 2024 edition has a long way to go to get named in the same breath in my opinion.

Watched this one passively as I was at another contest so I don’t speak out of turn. But it seemed like every time I glanced down at my phone it was 3rd and long for both teams or one team was turning the ball over. What was the final turnover ratio?

Brownsburg vs Cathedral…Friday.