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Gotcha.

Both better attempt to field a defense with a pulse for a change. No Kansas’ on the schedule...

I guess it also depends if you are a glass half full or glass half empty kind of guy. On one side, your post insinuates that he walked into loaded teams and still barely got his state title at Warren. Another way of looking at it is that he developed and cultivated that talent you speak of and put his players in a position late to win close games. I guess I can see both sides. (And FWIW, the call at the end of regulation at the end of that state title win remains one of the worst I’ve seen personally at any level.)

Not a fan. Schedules are too imbalanced as it is. I know they would do some realigning but could you imagine Oklahoma, Texas, LSU, Auburn and Alabama all in the SEC West?

Sure it does. Never debated that but long term success is determined by an athletic department’s commitment to a program. if you notice, very rarely are schools that do not have a large enrollment advantage (the big three) dominant in both football and basketball at the same time.

Just don’t get why you are so insecure. This is a message board and it is the offseason so this is a great topic for debate. I’m not sure why folks get so sensitive. There is a classy way to compare programs and coaches without “trashing” anyone and you’re smart enough to do it. You watch the games, see the coaching adjustments that are made and speak to the coaches involved on a regular basis. What is so hard about comparing coaches and programs that you see week in and week out?

Penn’s enrollment advantage over their northern Indiana counterparts speaks for itself. Other northern Indiana programs are finally catching up as they have invested in their programs. North Central has always been a basketball first powerhouse as has Pike. NC is upgrading their facilities and went all in with the hire of O’Shea and last year was just a speed bump. They’ll continue to improve. Pike had the right guy in Moyers and made a state finals appearance but that was derailed when adults got in the way. Dont know enough about Lake Central’s situation to make a statement.

With 2000 fewer students, I might add. BD, along with Carmel and Warren, should never fall into the “its cyclical” argument with the pure numbers and resources they have available. A .500 season 1-2 times per decade? Maybe.

Hell, taking it a step further, BD is 18-18 in three years with Simmons and LN (once the annual conference bottom feeder) is 14-18 in that same time frame. The four win difference lies in the fact that LN has had to go through the sectional 7 gauntlet while BD coasted through sectional 6 the past two seasons.

I don’t understand what it has to do with throwing other coaches under the bus. Obviously these guys are all “good coaches” as their administration have hired them to lead their programs. Why is it so controversial to have a real conversation? I’m not saying Simmons is not a “good coach” but where would he fall within the MIC/central Indy if your favorite team were drafting a coach? The resumes of Kirschner, Moore and O’Shea and Hebert blow him away as do those of his two Hendricks County rivals. It’s still too soon to make broad judgments as he still has time and I firmly believe you can wipe away 2020 but he’d better start winning soon. .500 seasons will never cut it (nor should they) at BD.

With his son at QB, lol. Definitely didn’t “luck” into that one.

I’ll take your word for it...now do the other 260+ career wins.

Can’t deny that he has underachieved (especially in the post season) at Brownsburg but also cannot ignore his successes. You don’t “luck” into those kind of numbers.

LOL, Hart has TWO state titles and a career winning percentage of .766.

Just don’t see it with Simmons. Sorry. Great guy. Find me a game on BD’s schedule where you can confidently say they have the advantage in coaching. Talent? Sure. But COACHING?

Main reason I’m predicting a slightly above .500 campaign for the Giants. Slightly inflated perception of success based on the JV sectional in which they compete. In fact, I’m not so sure their JV team couldn’t win that sectional nor a combined All-Star team from the other three schools could not beat Ben Davis’ varsity.

There isn’t a poster on this board more miserable.

I’m here for you.

I believe he is stating that 8 of the teams listed in DT’s poll, are on BD’s schedule.

Thanks. Thought I mentioned that... Oh wait, I did.

Heard a rumor that WC crushed Westfield recently in a scrimmage. Can anyone confirm?

Boom!

Then go 8.5. Man up.

I’ve always been curious about the pronunciation of this guy’s last name... Anyone?

Guess I can see that but you know my stance by now on academic/athletic success. Starts at home. Carmel’s affluence has more to do with that 90+% than anything else.