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Some people simply live in a utopian society and don't get it. Glad you do.

How honorable.

Cool. Thanks for the heads up. I couldn't afford the tuition at U of C anyway.

They offer dance classes as an elective at The University of Cathedral? If so, hook me up.

Never been a great dancer honestly.

Don’t forget...ZERO percent F/R/L. Someone with Cathedral ties speaking about the lack of impact socioeconomics has on an athletic program is akin to LeBron James lecturing folks about racial inequality and human rights...oh wait.

I politely disagree. You want the easiest path possible in every scenario. One less game is ideal. If you’re good enough, that two week break won’t matter.

Three team sectionals? What a joke. Nothing like getting a bye to the sectional championship.

Wait, did you just say that Lake Central has a similar SES to those other programs mentioned above? You really are lost. Mega enrollments can overcome/negate a high FRL population... I never said it was the ONLY deciding factor but these two are far and away the two most important factors. I wouldn’t expect someone from Cathedral to understand.

You do realize that four of the teams listed above are probably still top 20-25 programs in the state, correct? North Central, Pike, HSE and Fishers play BRUTAL schedules and their final W-L record makes them appear worse than they are. I've already stated that there is no excuse for Noblesville and Lake Central and those programs' lack of success falls at the feet of the coaching staff/athletic department. As for your last question, there is no doubt that the commitment at Warren is higher than it is at Pike, but I will also add in that the westside suburban sprawl from Marion County to Zionsville, Brownsburg and Avon is playing a larger role at Ben Davis and Pike than it is at Warren Central as it would relate to New Pal/Greenfield. The east side may eventually catch up but right now, the western suburbs are booming and players who would normally be at Pike/Ben Davis are popping up in Hendricks/Boone County.

You're lost dude. Never said commitment/culture WASN'T a factor but it is a DISTANT third to the two metrics I mentioned and the latter (culture) is impossible to build over the long haul without the two metrics I've repeatedly cited. Once again, as a CATHEDRAL poster you just need to sit this one out dude. You've embarrassed yourself enough here.

I already mentioned that Noblesville has little excuses, as they have both the enrollment and SES to compete at a high level...therefore it falls at the feet of the coaching staff and the lack of a commitment (@DT's words) by the athletic department TO football.

A dude from Cathedral downplaying enrollment and SES is the ultimate "out of sight, out of mind" type of nonsense. SES and enrollment are the top two factors in a coaching staff's ABILITY to build the culture you speak of. (By the way, the answer to your statement about Carmel is Morgan Newton who went to Kentucky...now do Noblesville.)

Just punt on this topic my man. You've failed to answer my man's question about your plan to turn Gary West into a football power. Very telling...

Carmel won the state title in boys tennis and is currently ranked #2 (behind Park Tudor) in girls tennis.

Track, football and basketball are usually the sports LEAST affected by SES and Carmel/CG went 5/6 in THOSE sports. In fact, if baseball, softball, golf and tennis go as expected, it appears CG/Carmel are about to go 18/20 in terms of conference championships.

Since I was given permission to continue to derail the topic, I’d like to point out that Carmel and Center Grove just DOMINATED the boys and girls MIC track and field championships. We are in new times folks. SES can’t be ignored.

Chris Evans (BD) to the Bengals.

Cam McGrone (LC) to the Patriots.

“If the Bears only had a quarterback...”

That’s awesome. Folks were way too premature in their assessment of he vs David Bell because of the gaudy freshman numbers Bell put up. Hoping both get paid to play the game over the next decade plus.

@Footballking16 poked the bear which derailed the thread. I'll take the blame.

They just need to "establish a culture".

Yeah, I just did the high school percentage.

I guess that's one way of looking at it.