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cloudofdust replied to Trojanmp52's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I’m certain there is no way we are both talking about the play in the video slobberknocker posted between Westfield and Center Grove at the 1:44 mark. First touching is clearly visible by K redirecting the ball backwards resulting in contact with R. That is what the video and incident that this thread regards. -
If I am wrong please correct me
cloudofdust replied to Trojanmp52's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
First touching gives the receiving team somewhat of a free play. Even if the receiving team runs the ball back 40 yards and fumbles the ball, losing possession, they can opt to take the ball at the spot of first touching, if it occurred. Bottom line, if K touches the ball first at at any point, it is R ball. Hard to believe this was enforced incorrectly. -
Lions win in a battle against a strong North Harrison team, 22-12. This team should be fun to watch. We had a few good drives killed by penalties or fumbles. If they can just clean up the penalty issues and hold on to the ball, Salem should compete this year very well.
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OK... I get the procedure, but why? Is it to just speed the process up? This is a new change, correct? Will captains be called as usual, or has that been omitted? I'm certain this will be a surprise to some folks.
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Ok, I'm curious. Can you elaborate on this change?
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Week 1 Match-Ups: Boonville at Paoli Eastern Pekin at West Washington Edgewood at Mitchell Springs Valley at Eastern Greene Switzerland County at Crawford County Tell City at Perry Central Brownstown at Corydon North Harrison at Salem Scottsburg at Madison Silver Creek at Charlestown Bonus Pick of the Week: Castle at Evansville North
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I'm not sure who is putting CC field in, but the Hellas crew here was going back and forth between here and Lucas Oil Stadium when they had to convert back to football from swimming. Pretty impressive crew to watch. 12-14 hour days and worked most weekends. Finished a couple weeks ahead of schedule. It took just a little more than 2 weeks after they initially laid the turf to have a finished field. Amazing how they cut everything in.
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Very exciting for the MSC. Both Schools had outstanding girls seasons as well. Brownstown lost to a very good Luers team this year at state and Scottsburg was cut out at Semi-State
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If the TE is not breaking the waist of the snapper how is he still allowed to be classified as a lineman? I know it happens all the time but by rule he is not a lineman. Definition states lineman must break waist of the snapper. I cant find anything saying they just have to break waist of nearest lineman. Albeit my rule book is 2021 model...
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Been following this forum for a good bit, enjoy reading your comments and always value your input. You are well respected but this comment deserves a flag. I'm very well aware of the rules, and definitions. I'm just slinging mud. Keeping a communication line between everyone is nothing but beneficial if you allow it and seeing point of view from even lowly fans can't hurt. That's what is great about this forum. I think it's been proven that the rule is cloudy. The definitions need improved or enforced on the field to deal with "no mans land". Lineman must break plane of snapper...everyone else is a back. Similar to what Impartial_Observer stated.
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Correct, but in the example the player does not break the plane through the waist of the snapper, which makes him a back. However, because he breaks plane of the nearest lineman that makes him a back that is on the line. Am I wrong? If so, hopefully this point of emphasis this year clears this gray area up.
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Based on the definitions your example of a player that has a part of his body breaking the plane of the waist of the nearest lineman makes this player on the line, correct? It would be less confusing if it was worded a little different and in order from lineman to back: Center - Lineman- Always Lineman - Any player who breaks plane of waist of center, including wideouts QB - Back - Always Back - ON the line if breaking plane of nearest lineman - OFF the line if not breaking plane of nearest lineman How can there be a "no man's land". You are either breaking the plane or you are not making you a back on the line or off the line.
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I can see that. Scottsburg and Pekin both have newer hybrid fields I believe. They seem to be good shape. I would bet North will jump on shortly after Corydon's goes in.
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Wow, that will be a great change! A lot of these fields in this area haven't had major improvements in decades. They were nice at the time but times change.
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I wasn't aware Corydon was getting it. That's great news as well. That leaves Pekin, North Harrison, and Scottsburg.
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I've not heard any specifics on the press box but it looks like it was also approved and was definitely due to be replaced. The stands themselves seem to be in good shape still. I believe they were put in in the early 90's. Could use a good power wash though!
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Looks like the playing surface at Salem will finally get an upgrade and should be ready for home opener in August. This is exciting news! https://www.facebook.com/salem.schools.5
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This is a interesting concept. I like the idea of more non conference games and playing some other teams from around the area. If going by enrollment Brownstown and Salem would switch, like it or not. OR there is this scenario where you could match up based off of Sagarin rating of past season. MSC Gold (Brownstown 82, Paoli 136, Silver Creek 154, Charlestown 158, Springs Valley 171, Scottsburg, 196, NH 203) MSC Silver ( Salem 241, WW 244, Eastern 248, Corydon 265, Madison 272, Mitchell 294, Crawford 304)
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The p/p hegemony continues unabated
cloudofdust replied to Muda69's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
This right here... let's start with this. -
The p/p hegemony continues unabated
cloudofdust replied to Muda69's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
The great thing about these improvements is that they are, more often than not, open to anyone that wants to enroll, regardless of beliefs, aptitude and/or wealth. The choice is yours! -
The p/p hegemony continues unabated
cloudofdust replied to Muda69's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Throw in the fact that the vouchers aren't beneficial to anyone in a rural setting and/or not within reasonable driving distance of a school that would accept them. Even if you had the desire and funds for a P/P education, it's not feasible if the commute is absurd. -
The p/p hegemony continues unabated
cloudofdust replied to Muda69's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Thank you for the very thorough explanation of the rigorous enrollment procedures. It's not an exaggeration when I say I actually read most of it.😉 Narrowing 27,390 students down to just 900 (3%) is no small task indeed! The law of supply and demand is basic economics. When demand is low and supply is high, you lower the cost and/or standard. If numbers are truly at the top of the list, I would suspect that strategy would be in place. It's apparent that a student/athlete's decision to attend one of these schools and their dedication and commitment to their faith, school, teachers, administrators, parents and self is truly unparalleled. Conversely, public schools have registration day. Five minutes of filling out forms gives you a genuine ticket to ride! -
The p/p hegemony continues unabated
cloudofdust replied to Muda69's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I wasn’t really talking so much amount numbers as I was quality. Read the line next to what was bolded. The quality of the student/athlete is different. Who would not be a good candidate specifically? I’m genuinely curious what you P/P guys consider a “risk”. -
The p/p hegemony continues unabated
cloudofdust replied to Muda69's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Again, what causes enrollment to be an issue? Surely students wouldn't be turned down or left out for any reason would they? -
The p/p hegemony continues unabated
cloudofdust replied to Muda69's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
You're telling me P/Ps cannot control who is or is not allowed to enroll at their school?
