Bash Riprock

LOL...I'm talking about crap that always tends to follow your beloved Cathedral program, and not just a single game. You know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Don't play dumb....just doesn't work for the "smartest guy on this forum". I am not affiliated with the CG HIgh School program...nor do I have a son or relative in the program. But I am fan of the program...and the MIC in general. Just want to be clear as you tend to try and speak for others often on GID.

The quarter rule is combined for both friday and saturday correct? If a player exceeds the quarter limit, it is an impact to both games. He was used either more than he should have been friday and saturday....and the other team was not afforded that same opportunity. The coach ADMITTED the rule was broken...flippantly...but he admitted it. The player in question should have either been held out more either friday or saturday. You want to name call and make this personal, that's fine. I won't retort in the thread, but feel free to send me a message privately. We can go from there.

NO...I am talking about a coach's response to rule breaking, justifying it. The excessive quarters impacted BOTH the varsity game friday night (with additional depth not afforded to the other team) and the game on Saturday. I am talking about culture....another shenanigan But I understand dumbing it down to an end of the year JV game helps deflect the issue....

Just explaining to someone that doesn't get it....its not about JV football. Never was. But I can understand why you desire the actions of your coach to not be discussed.

I will disagree about a very deficient LN squad. Coach Mal had an excellent game plan that the team executed beautifully. He had that team fired up. With his background, no one knows CG better. Coach Mal proved why he is one outstanding head coach. LN has some outstanding football players. It is tough to beat team repeatedly...very tough. I agree with your comment about the 30 point spread....not because of last night as much as how I saw BD play CG earlier this year. That was a tough game. Throw in CG getting hit hard by some injuries makes this a very interesting matchup.

2 years ago, CG struggled in the regular season with a 4-5 record. But the team grew up, went on a roll all the way to the 6A State championship game and gave Carmel all they wanted. Doesn't matter a hoot how a team plays in the early season....and it matters now. BD is playing good football. I saw BD play at CG in the regular season and they are a good football team....and I venture to say a better team now than they were in week 4 against the Trojans. I expect a very good football game.

They are indeed awesome!!! Worth every penny. Congrats on such an impressive victory by your Giants last night. Wow!!! Got to make you proud!! Regional champs again!!

It has nothing to do with a single JV game. My beef was the coach's response flippantly admitting non-compliance with a rule (that effects BOTH friday and sat night's game) and fans that want to brush both the event and the coach's unfortunate response on GID under the rug. Had the coach said nothing, or stated it was an honest mistake, not a biggie. But he admitted to breaking rules with a smug response. It is wrong and there is no 2 ways about it. I don't have anything to prepare for....I will say this again....I am not affiliated with GGHS sports, no kid involved, etc. The CG fan that started the thread was NOT wrong. The playing of excessive quarters occurred, a Cathedral coach admitted it and stated his distaste for the rule...

Did you grow up next to power lines? I have been clear repeatedly I have no kids involved. I didn't lose anything. I do love the sport....and integrity, especially with youth matters. A Cathedral coach admitted the kid in question (assuming only one) played excessive quarters. He didn't apologize and indicated he didn't agree with the rule. #letthekidsplay You did read that, right? To say his quote on GID was flippant would be an understatement. What kind of culture does it take for a member of a high school coaching staff respond on a high school forum, justifying non-compliance with IHSAA rules?? I have friends that coach city high school programs...and have coached for years. So yes, I made up my mind a long time ago "program integrity" based directly upon the word of people I trust. That's why "Coach P's" words didn't surprise me one bit. And honestly, I could care less. Just play ball in the top class with the big boys when it matters in the playoffs. Then, their fans can truly call them the state's best, or when they claim "Game of the Decade"...perhaps it will mean something.

there was no forfeit...friday or saturday

in the thread named "Quarter Limit"

Evidently, according to your coach, you did use a player in violation of the rules. Was it to win a JV game? I'm guessing it wasn't to lose it. But I'll say it again, it also provided additional depth during the friday night varsity game that was utilized for special teams. Depth the opponent didn't have available. Its about level playing fields.....why is that so foreign?

Perhaps you are right....maybe I got my time periods mixed up......

It takes an idiot to know an idiot. As I stated before, the impact isn't just to the JV game. Can you not get your pea brain around that? It provided depth (in this case to special teams) to the varsity game friday night, that the opponent was not afforded. What is worse, you had a member of the Cathedral coaching staff post on GID acknowledging non-compliance. Now who's desperate when it comes to acknowleding that a team is breaking rules to gain a competitive edge? Let's talk desperate some more...repeatedly on this forum calling the Cathedral vs CG game, the "Game of the Century". It didn't live up to that billing....not even close. Last year's game was far better. Further, you've stated several times how the Cathedral O line is the best in the state. Many of us rolled our eyes, guessing you had a kid on the line, and your comments were just based on your "enthusiasm". Well, how has that worked out? How did the great O line in the state perform running the ball against CG on a tailored made night to run the ball between the tackles? Greatest O line in the state...what a joke. I'm a troll for calling out cheating when I see it...so be it. Wouldn't expect anything different from a guy like defending it. What a clown.

I see...so that allows you to rationaliize non-compliance/cheating. It is not just about the JV game. It impacts the friday night game by providing additional depth....in this case to special teams. Depth that the opponent was not afforded. Cathedral then had a coach foolishly post on this forum making a case for non-compliance. It speaks loudly about the culture. Most of us are not foolish enough to believe that when "hands are caught in the cookie jar" it is the very first time......

With MSU and Michigan still having Ohio State and Penn State on their schedules, they are not done losing games yet.......they will drop. The Big 10's hope once again lie with the Buckeyes...... Sorry guys...just read your responses....guess I felt like piling on.....flag thrown on me for the late hit....

So true Grover...do you remember several years ago, CG losing a sectional game to Avon on the last play of the game? A hook and ladder ran to perfection. 2 DB's collided and that was the story No high school lead is safe when its one score or less.....much less on a wet rainy night....

I'm not missing the point...I just don't agree with you. Wozniak had a fine career. Now if you define catching more balls better, that's your opinion. But the guy was a multi-year starter at a Big 10 school...and he was known more for his blocking. https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/4359526-gophers-tight-end-nate-wozniak-expresses-his-love-hit-people Regarding Curry....I trust the caliber of schools recruiting him understand his body and what they need to do....or not do. Nothing personal man...I just don't see you as a recruiting expert. And I will say again, nothing of past Trojans and their collegiate playing days have anything to do with Carson Steele. Nada.

In a college football thread?? I think you got in a hurry this morning.....unless you are talking Baylor.....

Please stop and do your homework before commenting. Wozniak was a multi-year starter at Minnesota. He chose Minnesota when he narrowed his offers down to the Gophers, Miami (Fla) and Purdue. A major reason he went with Minnesota is because they would play him at the TE position. Most of the schools offering him were at the OT position given his size. Other schools offering him included Indiana, Cincy, Iowa State, Maryland, etc. Wozniak was tabbed (right or wrong) as a blocking TE. That is why he got his shots at NFL camps, it was for OT. Perhaps he would have been better off at that position....I don't know. But he absolutely was a player at Minnesota. To say he did not make a dent is flat out wrong. You have heard of a blocking TE correct? Another person you failed to mention that played his ball at CG and was a starting TE for Indiana in the early to mid 2000's was Aaron Halterman. Aaron was also on the Colts practice squad in 2006 and has a Super Bowl ring. Allan Trieu....there you go. He obviously knows more than 30 or so outstanding P5 school staffs that have offered Curry. But I am done with this conversation if now you are going to talk negative about current players. I am beginning to think you are the Cody Parkhurst guy from the Facebook Indiana High School Football group..... I have a ton more insight as to what Moore does when it comes to recruiting than you. A ton more.....and we shall leave it at that.....

you lost me on "grilling" you. I gave you a plus for your response. Its a discussion board....so not getting high fived on every response goes with the territory. But in this case, not disagreeing....

I'm really not missing your point....I'm just asking you to be a tad more accurate. You listed some names, that were solid (some major) contributors at the collegiate level. I watched a number of them play. Did Moore (a former player at IU) have some influence at IU? You can speculate. At the end of the day, those college coaches are being held to perform by putting the best players they can on the field. Speaking of Luallen, Paul Johnson was the coach at GT. He had come over from Navy and ran an offense he must have felt Jordan was a fit....Jordan finished at Cincy. No shame in that. Also, we will agree to disagree about Paxson. If Tiller and Fulmer were high on him, that speaks volumes. I saw him a lot more than once....and he he was at playing weight. Again, I am not sure how CG kids performed back from 2000-2007 or so in college has anything to do with Carson Steele. The former Mr Indiana football is his own young man....and he's not the one of e guys from the early 2000's. I don't care what conference, its rare for any true freshman to be handed the rock that early in his career. As I mentioned, perhaps the MAC is the best fit....but I still believe he would have worked himself into a major role either at Purdue or IU. He's a different beast. But we agree that we are happy to see Carson flourish.

Not sure what the early to mid 2000's has to do with a current player in 2021.....can you articulate the relationship? Van Alstyne? One of the top ranked LB's in the country that was committeed to Notre Dame before he flipped to Michigan. Absolutely made an impact at Michigan, suffering 2 major knee injuries. Adam McClurg...started his senior year at Indiana and I believe some of his junior year. Had 99 tackles in 2007 (11.5 for a loss) and 58 in 2006. Joel Hale...you mean the young man that lettered every year at Ohio State and had offers from Michigan, Penn State, Florida, Michigan State, Purdue, Indiana, etc?? Indiana Mr. Defensive football? Would he had better stats at Indiana, Cincy or Purdue...perhaps. But that young man has nothing to apologize for.... You left out Adam Finley...heck of a punter and placekicker for Michigan.....and JB Paxson chose baseball over football....put that young man was headed to Purdue and tried to flip to Tennessee and Tiller wouldn't oblige. This helped to send him down the baseball path. Tremendous athlete. CG nor any high school doesn't place its kids in college programs.....they are recruited and offered.....

I was a little surprised Spegal turned away from the Army offer. He would be a perfect fit at FB in the Army offense. But, I get not everyone wants the academy as their college experience and wants to serve the 5 years active duty following graduation.

I sure enjoyed watching in on TV. Incredible. A big salute to the Army Black Knights in their hard fought win against the Air Force Academy in OT. Army will retain the Commander-in-Chief's trophy regardless of the outcome of the Army/Navy game in December. (Army's 4th in the last 5 years)