Bash Riprock

ok..fair enough...but you did infer that if you haven't officiated....... Perhaps much of what I was responding to was this comment from Just Rules. I don't disagree that there are "some" coaches and players that don't always understand the rules....but I think its a subset and don't agree with a generalization as written below.

I understood your statement...and the example that you used about not coaching. While I understand an official may understand the interpretation and applicability of the rules as a "higher level", I don't agree that coaches and players are ignorant to the rules. especially at the NFL level. Officials are not equal in terms of their craft and while I absolutely agree they get the vast majority of calls correct, they are human and they do make errors. Thus the application of replays overturning calls at the collegiate and professional levels.

Not sure where your statistics come from, but I never said officials have high error rates. Never said officiating is easy. I think its clear I don't understand the rules....nor any coach or player.....only officials....... By the way, I have some good friends that are officials at the collegiate level....a couple of them played Power 5 football....one of them has a Super Bowl ring. While they would agree with some of what you state....they are at a very different place in terms of dismissing the knowledge of players and coaches about the rules. Bottom line, officials are graded for a reason...and like any other profession, some are better than others.

I understand coaches yell out for penalties or complain because ones are called...but is this always because they don't understand rules or could this also be because they didn't have the view to actually see what truly happened? Could it be both and not always the lack of understanding the game? BTW, I watched both games yesterday, and listened to both the officiating experts point out what they felt were missed calls...especially with a couple of non-calls. Example, Dean Blandino pointed out a missed late hit on the QB to the head when he was on the ground...replays confirmed he was right and it should have been a foul. Officials do make mistakes from time to time....they are indeed human and we can all point to examples. That is all I am saying. They do a great job and no one expects them to be error free.

So the only people that can grasp the rules of football are officials? Man, was I sure tricked by all the coaches over the years that taught us the game, including rules, techniques to avoid breaking the rules both on the field and at coaching seminars. I wonder if coaching legends like Dick Dullghan understand they don't get the rules of the game......that is only reserved by officials. 🙄

I truly didn't know the impact....do you see others leaving to go with him to the Chargers?

looks like a member of the Wolverine staff headed to LA with Harbaugh. https://www.maizenbrew.com/2024/1/29/24054210/michigan-wolverines-college-football-ben-herbert-leaving-jim-harbaugh-nfl-los-angeles-chargers Not sure of the impact, but day prior Sherrone Moore felt confident UM would retain him. https://www.maizenbrew.com/2024/1/27/24052823/michigan-football-sherrone-moore-ben-herbert-2024-jim-harbaugh

Are all officials arrogant? Officials with law backgrounds only? Just curious. Only officials understand the rules....ok....🙄

As a former player and coach, I understand what holding is and isn’t. The head referee misses holding calls for time to time, especially with non-calls. That is a fact. All officials do their best, and some are better than others. But like any other human who are considered masters of their craft, they are not without blemish. Much of the media you downplay are former NFL players and they point out officiating errors through video. Dismissing their views as not understanding the game isn’t credible.

Initially, I thought Vrabel’s availability gave Ryan Day something to be worried about…

Very interesting Irish...I thought the same when the Falcons passed on BB. I also found it interesting that BB is not getting that many interviews with an original fair amount of openings. Given his age, do you think teams may be passing for what they consider are more relatable, flexible coaches? Teams such as the Titans, Raiders, etc. didn't even consider...perhaps they had phone conversations. I believe only the Seahawks and Commanders are left with vacancies unless a team abruptly fires a coach. I was wondering if the Eagles or even the Bills would pull the trigger, but they didn't. Kind of tells me teams are not viewing BB as an upgrade to get them over the hump. Lots of interesting articles about this...below is one. https://sports.yahoo.com/as-falcons-pass-on-bill-belichick-its-clear-what-is-shutting-him-out-of-this-nfl-head-coaching-hiring-cycle-012324964.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADLIj8Wl1jZDu3bWyJ8yhF5cht-C0bYotgu5A4mL-XTMrheq4qo7WIuRJXmfRJrnmZnySgFmbOzZO-ZYxVaueiQJxP66PCmfATaBVPbIEd1z3pT0pd6ccOuIvn7BpFpDu_zs0LBeQFe-QaRHS6qut1-opwZyM1EZaH3KHEyLO1m4 Is anyone surprised that Vrabel isn't landing anywhere? I was surprised the Pats didn't view him as a serious candidate.

Might be able to pull Tom Allen away from Penn State. #LEO

I am not saying anything in deliberate, but the referee does make calls impacting the QB. And there is tremendous interpretation that occurs. For example, how I have witnessed Patrick Mahomes and Matthew Stafford earning roughing the QB calls were very different in the games they played. Is that due to simple variability in how the referee judges the foul...perhaps. I have also seen the referee make holding calls (or decide not to throw the flag) and replay will show us if he got it right or not in many of those cases. Is a missed call deliberate? I don't think so. (others may have their own opinion) Can they be impactful?....absolutely. Can a referee or any official be influenced by the behavior or reputation of a given player? Again, perhaps not intentionally, but do I believe certain players get the benefit of the doubt, which can include crunch time....absolutely. At the end of the day, the referee is human, and not a robot.

Not in football....but other sports...yes

are they closer to an agreement in LA? https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/01/23/jim-harbaugh-chargers-could-agree-contract-offer-soon-report If Harbaugh goes, this report has him raiding the UM staff to go with him...... https://athlonsports.com/college-football/jim-harbaughs-departure-could-result-chain-reaction-disastrous-blows-michigan

Love the Shoals nickname...personal bias given the neck of the woods I grew up in.....

You have to be pretty pumped about the future. Never one play, but missed FG hurt in Q4. Excellent game!!

Not sure. Agree with you about worth. I believe it all about KK’s relationship with Caleb Williams.

Looks like one potential Harbaugh landing spot eliminated...... https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39344707/raiders-working-finalize-deal-antonio-pierce

I think a number of analysts would agree with you Irish. I agree with your comments about Harbaugh...his brother nipped him when they both took their teams to the Super Bowl, and that has to sting. John seems to be in a good position to be a contender for another one this year. Belichick interviewed with Atlanta again....thoughts about him coaching the Falcons. Not sure why he would want to jump in a situation without a proven QB.

Very sad for any individual to be 64 years of age and can't handle this demon. In this case, a 64 year old billionaire. While I feel for him and his battle with addiction, I would hope the NFL would demand that he hand over the keys until he can demonstrate he is healthy and on the right track.

The young man is definitely a winner...no one can claim otherwise. And I think he probably considered an outstanding leader. It would seem his stock has risen after the title game in which some draft analysts are now saying he will go as the 4th QB taken at the end of the 1st round. Based on that, I agree with Bobref...his stock will never be higher and makes sense he would declare. What has me scratching my head a little is I thought he was ok during the national championship game, but it was far from his best. His long run backed up down by his own endzone was probably his best play of the game. But the NFL is now all about the passing game, and I am not sure his game best aligns with the pure passing skills needed. Now, perhaps the experts see his potential development, similar to a Jordan Love. I am not sure. Harbaugh's endorsement as the "best ever" at Michigan does say something. I guess time will tell....seems like a young man of outstanding character and is quite the leader. Hope he is successful at the next level. Any speculation as to what teams may use their draft pick on him?

Saw that...Falcons interviewed Belichick and Harbaugh....going for the big guns!! I can't see either excited about the QB options there.