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I think Snider has 2 years at the 6A level so we shall see what happens. I said playing East Noble 4 years in a row is a travesty, not getting you ready for crap. No disrespect meant, but beating a non-descript 4A team proves what exactly? I am sure Ben Davis and Center Grove are shaking in their boots over it. Let’s add the Warsaw Tigers, that will help. Not!!! Schedule up Snider, not down…

OK, I will respond your replies: 1. Doubt very seriously that the reason Snider decimates Northrop year after year is because they take the “rivalry” seriously. Sure it has more to do with the fact that they are WAY better than Northrop in every facet of the game 2. You have a point with North Side, but it is slim. Proximity and jealousy drive North Side when they play Snider. I can somewhat buy North Side as a team that can give Snider a game occasionally, but a real rival that makes it a 50/50 game annually, uh no 3. Luers is a small 2A most years, 3A now, school that has had alot of talent over the years. High end talent that has been dominant at their enrollment level for a long time. They have given Snider a game over the years way more frequently than Northrop would ever dream of doing. True rival, no, An extremely talented 2A team, hell yeah 4. Dwenger I have acknowledged as Snider’s biggest rival until 5 years ago. I have also said many times that this is a make or break year for that coaching staff. It will be a break year for them as that schedule is intense, the talent level is not up to par, and several lopsided losses are coming. You can hang your hat on them if you want, but for them not to have a losing record would be a huge upset 5. Bye weeks suck. South Side, Concordia, and Northrop have no business on the schedule. Period. Nothing good comes from these games for either team. Injuries happen to the lessor team because they are outmanned in a big way. 42-0 at the end of the first quarter benefits who? Running clock should not happen often yet it happen in almost half of Snider’s games. Not good for anyone Yay, we are the “biggest” game of the year for Northrop or North Side or Wayne or South Side or Concordia. 56-7 does nothing for me against those teams. Hell, Snider shows some class against those teams and calls off the dogs. Look at what Carroll has done to those teams recently and they didn’t call off the dogs until the 4th quarter. Everything I am saying about Snider applies to Carroll as well. Carroll is seriously challenging themselves with out of conference games. After this year, we drop Warren Central and pick up Warsaw to go along with East Noble. Joy. Not saying Warsaw won’t beat Snider, but it’s just like playing Mishawaka. Difficult to defend, sucks the clock, not going to get you ready for the Indy teams in my opinion

I based it on football only. Northrop has beaten Snider once that I can remember in the last 35 years, back when Ben Rogers was a star for the Bruins. I completely do not consider them a rival. North Side can be judged a rival in proximity only as games with them have been lopsided for years. The only thing that got them in the top 5 is all the trash talk from North Side over the years and the nasty transfer situation with the QB going from Snider to North Side as he knew he wasn’t going to start at Snider. Luers over the years as been more competitive with Snider than North Side and Northrop. Dwenger is on the downside of what has been a great football school for years. I still had them as Snider’s top rival 5 years ago, but the downward turn has been steep recently. Competitive games are important when judging a rivalry, just think that gap is growing larger by the year with Snider and Dwenger. Dwenger is getting beat handily by Carroll and it is a struggle for them to win games against any team that is not a bottom feeder in the SAC. Reality for them again this year is 3-6 most likely and then comes Sectional time and probably at most 1 win. I will always believe that the SAC is way better when Dwenger is good as having good competition in the conference is good for everyone. I hope they can start an upward trajectory soon, but just don’t see it under the current regime. I would love to see Snider playing good teams every week, but the current teams in the SAC doesn’t allow for that. Let’s be honest here, year in, year out Carroll will be the main competition for Snider, Homestead has the potential to be good every year, then who? Northrop, South Side, and Concordia have no shot going forward, every 10 years or so, Wayne, Luers, and North Side games might be competitive so that leaves a downtrodden Dwenger, Homestead who has never done jack crap come playoff time, and Carroll who is going to bust out as a consistent state title contender in the coming years.

Wanted to get thoughts on who you see as the Panthers biggest rival today as compared to 5 years ago. Here are my thoughts: 2019 2024 1. Dwenger 1. Carroll 2. Homestead 2. Homestead 3. North Side 3. Dwenger 4. Carroll 4. Luers 5. Luers 5. North Side

Always a good read and a good topic generator

I agree with you. Pretty sure a couple Dwenger bound kids ended up at Snider as well. Whatever is going on at Dwenger is benefitting a couple other schools

Dwenger is in free fall mode now. Under the current regime, it won’t be changing…

Yay. What does Sparty’s record look like come playoff time? Crapola!!! You all can give credence to Sparty for accomplishing zero in the playoffs, not me

Nope

It’s Snider and Carroll then everyone else this year and looking like for years to come.

Offensively, Snider has different personnel than last year so not the same guys. That is what makes it hard to say exactly what will happen. I knew last year that Snider would move the ball almost at will on Warren making it an “easy” pick for me. You are absolutely right about Brownsburg, they can go undefeated in the regular season for the next 5 years, they will be judged on playoff time only

As for this year’s game, I have not went out on the limb yet, just not sure what Snider has offensively yet. If this year’s Snider offense is at least equal to last year’s offense, Snider will beat Warren again

Well yeah, SEC have been paying players forever. There is a saying that “college football just means more in the SEC”. The correct version is the “SEC just pays more” for the last 20 years before NIL

Saban paying those transfers thousands of Benjamin’s doesn’t hurt either….

Saban is a good college coach, not great. Look at his resume other than Alabama, where he paid his players top dollar before NIL started.

Great analysis!!! Love your insights into the SAC. Here are some additional thoughts on each team: Dwenger - This program is in trouble. Lots of second guessing going on with some influential alumni has made Coach Garrett’s seat very warm. A .500 record is doubtful and the first 2 games are brutal. Change is coming… Homestead - Sparty has been overshadowed by Carroll in recent years and that trend will continue. Something is missing with this team and program. They are in the 2nd tier below Carroll and Snider Luers - This team is always a threat come playoff time as they play way above their class during the regular season. I never judge this team on their record during the regular season North Side - I have no respect for the current coaching regime at North. I could care less about all of the talent they have had over the past couple years, they pissed it away. Nothing worse than watching a talented team waste it with zero discipline, lack of respect for other teams, and total disrespect of officials. Next… Northrop - Terrible team year after year after year…. They are a threat to nobody and first round fodder every year in sectionals Snider - Defense has the potential to be as good as last year and last year was an all time great defensive team in Snider history. The story this year will be the offense. If they are pretty good, watch out as this team will be a state title contender. If not, Carroll will be too much for them South Side - Not getting my hopes up that this year will be any different than the last 20 years for them. They have some nice players, but line play has always been a struggle for them Concordia - Bad year for them last year, don’t see this year going much different. Unless they have some elite athletes coming in, the struggles will continue Wayne - Athletes are in abundance here, line play is not. Again, they could win a game or 2 in the sectionals, but that is it Carroll - They have far surpassed Homestead to be the main competition year in, year out with Snider. To me, they are the favorite to win the SAC this year. They have challenged themselves with playing HSE and Center Grove their first 2 games, 2 really strong teams from down South. If they can somehow win both those games, they will be the favorite to represent the North in Indy

I am really down on Dwenger guys. I think the alumni are really down on Garrett as a head coach and if he doesn’t have success this year, don’t be surprised if there is a change next year. It is possible that Dwenger finishes 4th in the SAC this year, but that is more of a statement that it is the Big 2 and the Little 8. Reminds me of the Big 10 many years ago. Just think the conference is down this year. I think Dwenger will be thrashed their first 2 weeks this year with Brownsburg and Moeller and the heat will be turned up quickly on Garrett

I still like Carroll to beat CG so getting 10.5 is even better

Well, that limb got a bit shorter… lol. Still, I will stay out on the limb

Well, it was a very lonely limb so I will ride the coattails of that as long as I can, lol. CG is the benchmark as far as I am concerned in 6A. I think they have lost some very key players in key positions so Carroll playing them early in the year is advantageous for Carroll as well as Carroll getting to play them at home in a hostile environment. Also, Carroll’s QB is a D1 guy and 3 year starter. Not naming a score yet, but I would not be shocked if Carroll won by double digits. How is that for being bold?

I would take Carroll +10.5 in a heartbeat. As a matter of fact, I believe Carroll will win that game straight up. Just like I stood out on a limb last year calling for Snider to win at Warren Central, I will stand out on a limb calling for a Carroll win over Center Grove

Both were in either 4A or 5A, but East Central and Snider certainly would have had a shot

Didn’t he have Warren Central stomping Snider last year? Valid question

Facts!!!

Wow, this escalated quickly. Just like the good ole days of the GID