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They have to figure if Ben Davis is a West, East, or Southside school this time around. 

4 hours ago, ragdoll said:

My first exposure to serious football was my best friend's much older brother playing for Coach Wilbur at BD. 

Coach Wilbur sometimes gets overlooked (Used to by me) until I actually educated myself on his years here and what happened prior to his arrival. BD had a total of six winning seasons prior to his arrival form 1937-1972. In 1972, they went 0-10. He went 59-53 here and strung together five straight winning seasons.

On 2/11/2022 at 11:36 AM, foxbat said:

Especially if there was a cash bar! 

If not, there's always the KOC fish frys in the upcoming Lenten season to expand the stipend fund.

Lord, I apologize for that there.

Don't forget the tip boards and raffles!

21 hours ago, Trojanmp52 said:

Over the weekend several  schools had there cheer teams travel down to Disney for a national competition.  How is this fair and equal that some can travel longer distance and  other can’t

Speech and debate programs travel all over the country for nationals. ROTC programs travel annually all over the country for nationals. Choirs and bands regularly go across several state lines. Publications, etc.

Cheerleading teams are not IHSAA programs, so it is fair in the sense that if the program is governed by the IHSAA that travel rules must be followed. It's the same as programs like La Lumiere who are not IHSAA members. The travel rules don't apply to them.

On 2/13/2022 at 11:19 AM, oldtimeqb said:

Forgive my ignorance, but why is Conference Indiana dying? I’m not really familiar with those schools.
 

Is that fact or just rumored? 
 

 

Conference Indiana has just been kind of surviving for years. Just kind of going along with members peeling off slowly. It's just kind of a group of schools that don't have anywhere else to go right now. Big schools that have no other big schools really around them interested in forming a conference...

So, I think if a better offer comes along, I think you could definitely see some movement. As we saw with the departure of Carmel/CG from the MIC, rumors quickly can become reality.

I get the feeling that the Mid-State is happy where it is right now. It's a fantastic conference that's very competitive.

In football, I know you get a certain number. Beyond that, you have to pay. So if your school wants its pep band at the game, for example, the school has to pay. At least, this is how it used to be.

Even a "unsuccessful" program can have success if it's providing opportunities for students to use athletics as a basis to stay in school, to stay focused on academics and to improve themselves as people. The win-loss results are an indicator of success to the outside world. Sometimes a loss can teach us more than a win. Overcoming adversity can teach us about ourselves.

And, we all know that one great vision can turn a program around...especially when a school is ready to support that program. No one would have considered Ben Davis a success in 1973 when Bob Otolski was hired as head coach, stayed a couple of months, then bolted for IU. BD brought in alumnus Bob Wilbur. The Giants were 97-212-12 as a program. Coach Wilbur began to build the program. That got the attention of Carmel's coach at the time, Dick Dullaghan. Coach D will tell you he first began to realize what BD could be when Wilbur's Giants thumped his 1977 Greyhounds team in Sectional. When he left for stints at Purdue and Army with Jim Young and then decided to come back to high school, Ben Davis ended up being his destination. His vision with a supportive administration that wanted to win and a first-class and innovative weight program combined with the talent always present on the Westside took the remains of the program that Wilbur began to build and created the Ben Davis program as we know it that now has a record of 513-379-12 with nine State Championships.

I think many have hit on what makes a program successful. I think it's also very difficult to break the cycle of losing these days, so I'd define success as focused more on students and outcomes rather than W-L (which is what we tend to look at from the outside as successful).

19 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

And there is one right here under the umbrella of the GID:  https://gridirondigest.net/forum/24-oob-forum/

 

Exactly.

On 2/9/2022 at 8:17 AM, NPCougarNation said:

Sad to report this morning that Betsy Fouts, wife of longtime North Putnam defensive coordinator & NPMS math teacher Dan Fouts, has posted on her Facebook page that Dan passed away this morning due to both lungs collapsing and the hospital could not revive him.  Dan had been battling COVID and its effects since Christmas break and had recently been allowed to come out of sedation as he was starting to breathe on his own more and more.  Please pray for his family, students and CougarNation as we deal with another blow to this small community.  Thank you.

Hate to hear that. My thoughts are with his family, friends, and players.

45 minutes ago, temptation said:

Coming from the guy trying to be the board comedian and taking the time to add yet another comment about a poster that doesn't matter...

Pot, meet kettle.

If I were a comedian, I'd have to be funny. I'm not funny. 

The post to which you are referring related back directly to something the original poster said. I've noticed a trend here recently where political posts are becoming more prevalent. I added my 2 cents on that. You apparently disagree. I'll keep in mind in the future that what I post must first matter to @temptation. I'm sorry for offending you.

12 minutes ago, DE said:

The after photo of Robinette taking a hit off his "free" cr*ck pipe.

13 hours ago, gonzoron said:

I don't see what any of this has to do with high school football. I guess the guy must live rent free in your head if you can't avoid commenting or sending ridicule his way on a high school football board. There are plenty of places on the internet for political commentary, parody, general scorn and ridicule, but this part of the forum shouldn't be it. Just my $0.02...and for the record, I'd say that about the last guy, too.

24 minutes ago, Goose Liver said:

There was a guy that used to write this way on RSN many years ago... drove most of the posters nuts. It was kind of fun to try and read some of the posts. I took a real skill to follow the posts.

Well, it wasn't me. LOL

12 hours ago, HHF said:

 

The majority of the members here either lack original thought, or are incapable of translating those thoughts via the written word.  

 

Eye iz KnOT CaPEUhBull Of ReEdiNG ThIz. Can SuMOne TrANZLaYTe?

Driven T/DT/HHF knows how to stir the pot. 

AND...I agree. Kevin O'Shea would be a good fit at Roncalli if he decides to pursue it.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Ben Davis keep one or both soon-to-be former MIC schools on the schedule. Carmel, for example, is a long term opponent with a relationship that goes back many years. The Giants and the 'Hounds first played in 1958 and have played every year since 1981 in the regular season. 

Nothing will surprise me at this point, though.

15 hours ago, Warren Central Warrior said:

I'm happy that Warren Central is beefing up its schedule with some mouth watering matchups

Doesn't surprise me with Mike at the helm. He likes to play good competition. Tried for years to get the schedule that BD has in place now.

Have not heard anything definitive at this point.

13 hours ago, Trojanmp52 said:

From what I have heard from out in the  world is that is was a 4/4 slit.  Now what other info I have come across is that the night before it was 6/2 in favor they both get in.  Not sure what might have happen over night to change 2 yes to no’s.

Life comes at you fast. LOL

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

10-15 years ago it made sense as Cathedral still struggled filling a schedule and were forced to play IPS schools more times than not, but that has since changed. I do know that Cathedral has enjoyed the flexibility of being able to schedule whom they wish in that time frame. They've played as far east as Cleveland, as far south as Chattanooga, as well as Detroit, Chicago, Louisville, and all over Ohio. It's a unique situation for them and has really helped evolved their football program the last decade plus. 

They could do a Notre Dame type arrangement I'm sure where football stays independent but maybe they associate with a conference to allow them flexibility. Just spitballing. I'm sure that those convos will occur potentially IF and ONLY IF Cathedral would jump into a conference. I was speculating on Cathedral.

5 minutes ago, foxbat said:

Is Cathedral looking for a conference?  I've always gotten the impression that Cathedral, whether they say it out loud or not, likes being independent.  I know the most comment argument against being independence, or conversely being in a conference, is the scheduling.  In some cases that's true, but it looks like Cathedral is a unique entity that the scheduling is much less of an issue for them and being independent actually provides a wanted flexibility that other programs might see as problematic.

Maybe. It's my understanding that they've attempted to join conferences a few times over the years. Other Cathedral folks might know better.

I think it will be very interesting to see what happens with that HCC alliance now. Center Grove and Carmel may have some pull away power. I know Kyle Neddenriep has mentioned this a couple of times in articles about the possibility that some in the HCC wanted Carmel and Center Grove. It must not have been half the conference or else they would have been in. If it was three, Carmel and CG would make five. If they could talk someone like Cathedral in that would be six. Then, what happens to the rest of the HCC at that point.

Much to watch!!

On 1/21/2022 at 4:55 PM, NLCTigerFan07 said:

You're joking right? There's no reason why the IHSAA would put Ben Dvais in Sectional 8 and move Center Grove to Sectoinal 6 unless I'm completely missing something here. Sorry if I am.

Yes. I'm joking. BD was put in with LC/LN and Warren for two years in 2017 and 2018. There was no sense in that one, either. Avon/BD/Brownsburg and Pike makes sense when it is possible.

On 1/21/2022 at 7:55 PM, temptation said:

I think he was being sarcastic.

Glad you understand me by now. HAHA🤣

18 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

Purdue Poly is on the east side of downtown Indy on Washington Street.  They probably have quite a few students from the former Indianapolis Howe that didn’t want to go to Arsenal Tech after Howe closed.  If the Howe campus is available it would make a lot of sense to move this school there.

Purdue has invested a lot of money in the building where they are. Not sure how that might factor moving to Irvington. 

2 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

I think Cathedral is in 6A if the IHSAA realigns this spring for the 22-23 and 23-24 cycle.  Wouldn’t be surprised if they take the cowardly stance of saying let’s go 1 more year with frozen enrollments.

Here’s what I see for 6A:

Sectional 1: Lake Central, Crown Point, Portage, Lafayette Jeff

Sectional 2: Penn, Elkhart, Warsaw, Homestead

Sectional 3: Carroll, FW Northrop, Hamilton Southeastern, Fishers

Sectional 4: Noblesville, Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville

Sectional 5: Cathedral, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, North Central

Sectional 6: Avon, Ben Davis, Brownsburg, Pike

Sectional 7: Perry Meridian, Southport, Arsenal Tech, Warren Central

Sectional 8: Center Grove, Columbus North, Franklin Central, Jeffersonville

Makes a lot of sense. That means that they'll probably put Ben Davis in with Sectional 8 and Center Grove in Sectional 6.

4 hours ago, Coach Dowell said:

The education field and the Indiana Football Community lost a fine man this week  Arnold Mickens.  Arnold is a proven fact if you chase your dream it can be accomplished.  Right or wrong he was deemed not good enough to run the ball at Indiana at the time.  Arnold would transfer to Butler and would have tremendous success.  The NCAA record books for rushing once read 1) Sanders OSU 2) Allen USC  3) Mickens Butler.  Thing is he did his damage in only 2 seasons basically.  For such a good back his talents would be maximized at IPS as a coach and guidance counselor.  His boys are both in the IPS system working everyday to help young people.  Proven fact that it is what you become after you are done playing that really matters. RIP Arnold and Prayers to your family and students.

Sincerely

Mike Dowell

My father was Vice Principal at Broad Ripple when Arnold played there, so I got to see him several times in high school. My dad really liked him. 49 is too young!

2 hours ago, RetiredCoach91 said:

Pike Opening via Coach Echevveria twitter post. @fbcoachech is twitter name and post was shared by Pike HS account. 

"After conversations w/ my family, I have decided to step down as the Head Football Coach at Pike High School. I want to thank the administration, teachers, and coaching staff for their support. Players, thanks so much for your dedication and hard work. Keep grinding and raise the bar."