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9 minutes ago, 260AC said:

Well the way its looking NJ players can't step up to the big moments. Shut out?

Our DLine has done well. NJ had some success but turnovers hurt them. Our OLine are having their way with the Jays.

2016 Semi State hosting Pioneer. Was nice pregame and then the severe thunderstorms hit. Temperature dropped drastically in the rain & wind. It was hard walking down the bleachers with frozen arms & legs. I was hoping LCC would have been the opponent in that weather but instead Kizer & the Panthers began their tear in 1A North.

58 minutes ago, AG said:

Was the kicker talented, or just average? Kinda sounds like a Seahawks Superbowl situation to me.

Average. AC rarely has super talented kickers aside from Sprunger before my time & his daughters have both kicked for us. His youngest splits tries with T. Currie.

1 hour ago, AG said:

Yeah, the favorite often seems to come from that Pioneer, Sheridan, LCC semi-state, and often times they've already beaten one of the other named teams on the way, and are battle tested to boot. At one point Seeger was really good and was in that group as well, although that's been a good 15 years. Pioneer kept losing before semi-state due to the combination of the Seeger, LCC, and Sheridan buzzsaw until the Kiser era.

Seeger gave us the worst feeling from a loss in 2003 as well. Up 21-0 @ half and lost 22-21 after settling for a FG that was missed. At the time, the best RB in school history (2 after him could say they are possibly) could have punched it in and sealed the deal for a state trip. Instead it was another semi state loss & that one was heartbreaking. 

15 minutes ago, FinePrint said:

I was wondering when someone would put a poll out here.  I voted for all in with seeding, but I don't want the entire field seeded.  Seed the top two.  Draw the rest.  In my opinion this option provides the best of both worlds.  It makes the season meaningful, and it gives the poor teams a shot at a favorable draw in the first round.

I'm with you there. I'd like the top 4 in 8 team sectionals seeded & top 2 in 4 teams seeded & random draw the rest in all in. Almost chose the last option as I lean more on schools focusing just on education and using the European model of clubs for sports. With college NIL and programs like IMG, it seems like it's heading that way. Already have club volleyball & baseball to name a few.

4 minutes ago, fenderbender said:

I think it is good to spread out the large and small schools evenly with the crowds.  Helps with parking and everything else.   

 

Though it does not always work out.   We were down there is 2016 and it was a mess with Center Grove and Roncalli on the same side

After experiencing LOS & security last year, it doesn't matter. They had us 1A fans trying to get out the same way the 3A fans were entering. They blocked off the other exits and stood guard so you couldn't go that way. Just massive log jam to get in & out. Also should have tickets designated by school to allow earlier access for the teams competing and then others for the casual fans. We had people from Tri & some other schools fighting in line while AC & Lutheran fans graciously waited to get in. Tri fans didn't do anything wrong but the meat heads from 4-6A fan bases tried causing issues.

Think 1-3A would allow those rare instances where the rural areas get all 3 teams to state in the same year (Wells or Adams County enrollment in a couple years).

Not sure travel has had much to with my Flying Jets struggles. We are what 2-12 and hopefully can make it 3-12 Friday night or we can be 2-13. Ran into some Pioneer, LCC, & Sheridan buzzsaws before to name a few.

1 hour ago, oldtimeqb said:

What the IHSAA said they were going to do, and what they have actually done are not the same, IMO.

 

Yes exactly. They already have determined the dates this year instead of waiting. I've posted this before, but I'd rather they do 1, 2, & 3A on Friday and do 4, 5, & 6A on Saturday permanently. 

26 minutes ago, foxbat said:

If we're proposing some semi-state games on Saturday, then state championships would be the following Saturday.

Why I would love 1-3A be together on Friday after Thanksgiving permanently. Don't follow programs in 4-6A and big Michigan fan. Plus the local OH HS teams usually play Saturday nights.

Eh, good for those just following Indiana HS football. I like having Indiana on Friday and Ohio on Saturday if it works out that way. Don't forget college football on Saturdays as well for fans as well as officials. Sorta wish the IHSAA would make the 1-3A finals permanently on Friday instead of flopping back & forth or the notion of waiting to see where the participating schools are from.

How much snow is in the forecast for North Judson? Will it be gone by Friday night?

NJSP gets the Jets at the right time. AC has some banged up guys. See if we have the complete starting backfield this week unlike the Regional vs Carroll. We shall see which lines dictate the game. NJSP seems to have more weapons on offense this year. Definitely will be closer than last year. Just hope our Jets can pull through. 

At the end of the day, an all in tournament that is either partially or fully seeded with neutral sites for regional and semi state games is the answer. You only need 24 locations for regional and 12 (which could be half of the same regional locations) for semi state games. Partially seeding also allows for the random draw the IHSAA loves so much. All in leaves zero argument as everyone had their chance to get the job done.

Final AC 35 Carroll Flora 0.

Looks like AC traveling to North Judson again for a state birth.

AC 35 Carroll Flora 0 with 3:17 in the third.

AC 28 Carroll Flora 0 half. Turnovers galore, mostly by Carroll. AC set to receive 2nd half kick. Cougars cannot get a running game going. Jets have but not as potent as normal with Tester out with injury tonight.

2 hours ago, Bobref said:

No disrespect to this gentleman, or to chain crew members everywhere. But when I was working, when we met with the chain crew pregame and heard, “yeah, we’ve been doing this a long time,” I cringed. Often, those guys were the hardest to work with, since they had their own way of doing things.

Sounds like they knew the way things should be and kept officials in line 🤣 is what you are saying.

9 minutes ago, Bonecrusher said:

That's a good suggestion - I wish I'd thought of it.  We used to live about 1/4 mile away from that stadium when we first got married.  That makes me feel even dumber for not considering HN lol! 

Do they have turf now?  I thought I read they do.

Believe so as they did a major renovation. Don't feel bad as I stupidly confused Snider & Carroll in a Snider thread vs Mishawaka. Oof!

10 hours ago, NLCTigerFan07 said:

When exactly did Snider and Warsaw play any time in recent history....?????

News flash - they haven't 😉

My bad, somehow I had Carroll & Snider opponents last week confused. 

48 minutes ago, scarab527 said:

The exact same 

Snider was able to stop Warsaw's so should be familiar. Mishawaka may have better athletes though than Warsaw. 

Don't know much about the Cavemen, but is their option similar to Warsaw's?

1 minute ago, Bonecrusher said:

That's a fair question.

I won't even pretend to know the logistics of it, but down here they make it work.  I would think there would be at least a base level of pre-planning required, since all playoff games are neutral sites, and venues aren't decided until that night's games are over.  Obviously adults with kids playing wouldn't be expected to stay home and work concessions, or something like that.  You would have to have some level of commitment from other staff/faculty/volunteers.  I don't even know if those people are paid.  The host school does get a percent of the gate, but it's probably not very high after the UIL (IHSAA for ya'll) takes their cut.  Probably the longer you do it, you come up with a system.  Pros & cons to everything.

Believe Ohio has schools or venues bid or make a determination if they want to host playoff games if they meet the OHSAA requirements. This year for they start neutral sites this week in round 3 up until semi state at those sites. They sometimes have to swap games from one site to another. That usually comes from 2 or 4 of the schools asking the OHSAA. 2 schools on the east side of Wood County just did this for their game. Eastwood vs Elmwood was moved from Napoleon to Bowling Green. Bowling Green should have been the obvious choice but the OHSAA like the IHSAA can just be ignorant at times.

53 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

Geography. Indiana is tall, not wide. A Hammond to Evansville regional game would be a bear travel-wise. 

Yeah I was meaning using neutral sites though. I should have clarified. No reason they can't rotate the semi state pairing each year between the 4 different regional winners. Year 1 could be NW vs NE & SW vs SE; Year 2 NW vs SE, NE vs SW; Year 3 NW vs SW, NE vs SE. Should be neutral sites for regional & semi state.

3 minutes ago, Bonecrusher said:

 

There's always Heritage.  Turf, 3A sized stands.  But the travel advantage flips to Luers in that scenario.

Someone's gonna get screwed a little bit re. travel time with neutral sites.  Deal with it.  Make it worth that extra time and win! (As told to a group of parents - and later the players - by my sons HC several years ago.  We won.)

Should do Huntington North for Luers vs Bluffton as a neutral site.

1 hour ago, Donnie Baker said:

Flora boys should have beat Sheridan but lost by 1 on a missed field goal. Both of those teams are solid but I think AC and Lutherans are on a different level. 

Lutheran is on a 3A level at this point.