Bobref

Which game was this? I’ll try to look at the video.

No, a play stoppage for injury is an officials’ timeout. Not charged to a team.

There are multiple possible explanations, so I’d only be guessing. The Referee has the ability to start or stop the clock to prevent someone from gaining an advantage by attempting to illegally conserve or consume time. Whether that came into play here, I can’t tell.

Plymouth fumbles on 1st play after kickoff, and St. Joe cashes in immediately. 20-0. 3:10 in the first.

3:26 in the 1st. SB St. Joe 13 Plymouth 0

Whether the Team A foul was live ball or dead ball matters a lot. If we assume it was a live ball foul, like a facemask on the tackle, the Referee goes to the team last in possession — here it’s Team B - and gives them the choice of accepting or declining the facemask penalty. If they accept the facemask penalty, the fouls offset and the down is replayed. If, as is more likely, they decline the facemask penalty, they now get to keep the ball. The Referee then goes to Team A and, of course, they accept the penalty for the Team B holding penalty. That 10 yd. penalty is enforced in this case from the spot of the foul. 1st & 10 for B from the +45. If, on the other hand, the Team A penalty was a dead ball foul, then both penalties are enforced, with the result being 1st & 10 for B from the +30. In the alternative scenario, since Team B got the ball “with clean hands,” i.e., they did not foul prior to the interception, they can keep the ball by declining the penalty for A’s holding foul. Then A will accept the penalty for B’s holding foul on the return, which will be enforced from the basic spot which, depending on the yard lines involved, could be either the end of the return, or the spot of the foul.

Have you ever actually attended a playoff game? If you cannot tell the difference between playoff football and regular season football, you’re not paying attention.

Perhaps “participation trophy” is a more apt description.

That is true, but only if the ruling on the field was simultaneous catch. As @JustRulessaid, it’s extremely rare. I’ve only seen 2 on the field in my career.

If possible, even more lopsided. That’s the entitlement mentality resulting from 35+ years of all in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_of_Old_Vincennes

To be honest, I don’t recall much about it. I was just starting my own crew around then, and I wasn’t all that interested in the big picture. Most of my football efforts were focused on building our crew and getting better as a Referee and crew chief. However, I became very familiar with the history of the tournament when I wrote an article about it years ago. In connection with that, I interviewed some of the key people involved back then. Got first person accounts of what went on and why it happened.

This is a loose ball foul by R, so it’s previous spot enforcement. Re-kick from the +45 or decline the penalty and R takes the ball at the out of bounds spot.

I was not only living in Indiana in 1985, I was officiating in Indiana in 1985.

It was worse than that. Long story short, after two straight undefeated seasons in which they failed to qualify for the playoffs, some parents from South Bend St. Joe filed a lawsuit against the IHSAA. The all in format was a direct response to the IHSAA’s heightened sensitivity on the subject of deciding who qualifies for the playoffs. The idea being if everything is more or less random, there are no decisions to be critiqued.

If players of opposing teams simultaneously possess the ball, it becomes dead at that point. If the ball was loose due to a forward or backward pass, or a fumble, it would belong to the passing or fumbling team. If the ball was loose because of a kick, it would belong to the receiving team.

As well as all other professional and amateur sports leagues. You know, at some point when you insist that you’re right when everyone else in the world has looked at an issue and come out on the other side, you’ve got to look in the mirror. And anyone who thinks that Indiana came up with the all in format because they made a careful evaluation and decided that was what was best for Indiana football, knows nothing of the history of the tournament.

This is a great question, but not one that can be answered simply. On many crews, the officials in conflict get together, briefly, to see if they can resolve their conflict. If they can’t, they go to the Referee. Normally, the Referee acts first as a facilitator, trying to get the conflicting views resolved. Ultimately, however, as I used to remind the members of my crew on occasion, a football crew is not a democracy. One guy wears the white hat for a reason. If the conflicting views can’t be resolved by agreement, then the Referee makes the ruling. It’s usually based on a number of factors such as who had the better view, whose area of responsibility it was, application of any “when in doubt” maxims, etc. By the way, my ruling on that clip was simultaneous catch, meaning the ball is dead in possession of the offense at the spot of the simultaneous catch.

If by “crazy” you mean something that’s a far cry from normal, the all-in format fits that description much better than a qualification format. Don’t forget who is the outlier here.

If the Ohio experience is any guide, it shows there are a number of different ways to skin that cat. You can try to schedule bad big schools, which gives you good 1st level points when you beat them, but no 2nd level points when they don’t beat anybody. Or you can schedule good smaller schools, receiving fewer 1st level points but more 2nd level points. There are other ways that combine different strategies. The one thing that’s abundantly clear is that a strategy of trying to load up your schedule with weak sisters so you put together a gaudy W-L record doesn’t often work.

Either you don’t get it, or … well, that’s it. I can’t think of another explanation.

Taking a big picture view … conferences form, break up, re-form. Old rivalries change with changing demographics and new rivalries emerge. It has always been that way.

Some conferences, like the Duneland, that have all 5A and 6A schools may stay relatively intact. Others, like the SAC, that have members spread out over 3 or more classes, probably won’t. And I agree that the relative scarcity of big schools in Southern Indiana will create scheduling challenges for them.

Knock yourself out. But I’m skeptical about any conclusions you might draw, since they will be based on the schools’ schedules as they presently exist. Implementation of a qualification format will result in many scheduling changes.

Out of state schools are treated the same as in-state schools in the Harbin system. Not sure where the division cutoffs lie, but an Ohio team would get more points for beating Roncalli vs. beating Chatard because Roncalli has a better W-L record, and is in a larger school classification.