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That has little, if anything, to do with the question that started this thread.

My question is, perhaps, better phrased as “why would bargaining unit members pay union dues to get those benefits if they can get them without paying dues?”

“Might as well?” Not sure what that means. But if no one in their right mind would opt out of a CBA, why would anyone in their right mind pay dues to receive benefits when they are not required to do so?

They don’t have to. But there’s an easy way for unions to go around this: figure out how much of the dues go for real union activities, and how much goes to pay lobbyists and engage in other “political” activities, and members of the bargaining unit can decide whether to pay just the basic dues vs. the “enhanced” dues that they can voluntarily pay to support the lobbying effort, etc., as well as the basic union functions. ...But you better make sure your accounting is solid, which is very difficult to do. Keep in mind, we’re talking about private sector unions, like the Teamsters or the Steelworkers. Public sector unions, like teachers or other government employees, are different. SCOTUS has ruled that it is impossible in public sector unions to separate their workings into strictly union business stuff vs. issues affecting the public interest (since they’re public, after all). Consequently, mandatory dues paying in any amount constitutes speech or expression, since it is a financial endorsement of the union’s stance on issues of public interest. So, bargaining unit members can choose not to financially support the union.

If your point is that all members of the bargaining unit benefit from the work of the union, therefore, all should pay for it, you’ve got to do better than that. As I pointed out when we started this discussion, the cornerstone of the issue is that entitlement to compensation arises only by agreement of the parties. Absent an agreement, there is no right to compensation. The non-union members of the bargaining unit did not agree to pay for those services. Therefore, they are not bound to do so.

Or, more likely, the lawyers hired by the union. But what’s your point?

Geez, could you be a little more specific? How’s this: A collective bargaining agreement (CBA) is a written legal contract between an employer and a union representing the employees. The CBA is the result of an extensive negotiation process between the parties regarding topics such as wages, hours, and terms and conditions of employment.

They are.

I’m sure it did.

I think so. They are a good fit size-wise, travel-wise, and they haven’t exactly run away with the conference title. They always have Andrean and Lowell to deal with. In the last 5 seasons, the Brickies are 6-6 against the Red Devils and the 59ers. No reason to move.

Well, you didn’t ask the question of me, but I’ll bite. Compensation for work done is a contract. Provided there’s agreement on terms, workers should be compensated according to that contract. For example, if I stop at a light and a guy cleans my windows, without me asking him to, he’s performed labor, but is not entitled to compensation, since there was no prior agreement. To refine your cross examination technique, you need to make sure your questions are answered either “yes” or “no,” if you want to keep firm control of the adverse witness.

I enjoy your cross-examination technique.

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The best capsule summary I’ve seen on the difference between a football team, and a football program. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit. —- Aristotle

Honestly, Dante, you ask the most unusual questions. I assume that by “corporations,” you’re talking about large business enterprises, and not simply why the legal entity, the corporation, a fictional “person,” was created. The answer is simple. The corporate form provides a convenient way to raise capital. The better you are at raising capital, the more business you can do. Sole proprietorships have inherent limitations in size and efficiency. If the corporation as an entity, or something like it, were not available, there’d be no IBM, Apple, Microsoft, GM, etc.

I’m getting tired of reading stories almost every day that make me involuntarily exclaim — in a voice that sounds remarkably like my father’s — “you have got to be kidding me!” I mean, I thought “quotas” were stupid and largely counterproductive when used in education admissions and employment. But in literature?

And I despise people whose goal is to infringe on others’ freedom of speech and association for their own benefit... which is exactly the effect of a mandatory dues policy where some of those dues are used for lobbying, campaign contributions, etc. That’s why the SCOTUS has ruled unconstitutional state laws that require public employees to pay union dues. https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/supreme_court_rules_mandatory_union_dues_violate_free_speech_rights_of_publ

Would you feel the same way if a kid with extraordinary gifts in math skills enrolled in an out-of-district school that had a reputation for excellence in that subject matter?

So, you actually think Gates has invested in farmland to take financial advantage of the “trend” toward plant-based proteins?

Ironically, the first team at any level to wear the “winged” helmet was The Ohio State Buckeyes.

At least their mascot isn’t the largest member of the weasel family.😂😅🤣

Has anyone broken the news to Mrs. Potato Head?

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In his heyday he was one of the most influential people in America.