Lysander

CJ, sorry I didn’t catch you at the game but only saw this thread after I returned home. Heartbreaking loss tonight in the last seconds of the game by the Trojans in a defensive battle. Best luck to Roncalli the rest of the season.

Only in alternating weeks.

I’ve said it for years but 4A “was” most years consistently the best class pound for pound. With that, its best teams have generally gone on to consistently be the dominant players in 5A and, on occasion, break into 6A…which has watered down 4A from its prior glory.

I”ll ask the same (apparently idiotic) question I’ve been asking since this whole debate started. Just why can’t the adjustment be made until the end of the two year period (at the end of next year) as it should have been done normally? Why the urgency to make bumps/drops/adjustments a year early? If I were a conspiracy guy I would say that its all because the IHSAA just couldn’t wait to bump Cathedral to 6A and had to validate that decision somehow…..but then I’m no conspiracy guy….. With that, I’m as ticked off as anybody about Chatard getting moved down to 3A. I really thought they could make a deep run in 4A this year….almost certainly next year (if they could have stayed “up”). Still, 3A has been a heckuva class the last few years and, apparently, Chatard is back in it. Looks like only Memorial will have the honor of pulling off the 3A/4A championship run for the time being.

Well….in my 5 paragraph, since deleted, alcohol-driven novelette I addressed those points. In summary, EC needs more competition. They have CLEARLY outgrown the EIAC by almost every measurable. No Cincy conference is likely to offer (you mentioned that). The Circle City only has 4 football and 6(?) schools in total - so really not that much travel…plus a Helluva lot more equivalent competition for EC. Finally, you can still play any and all the familiar local punching bags (Lawrenceburg excluded as regards being a punching bag) if you want….they still need to fill their schedules too. But, overall it would provide the level of overall conference competition EC is sadly lacking with only a couple of 90 minute drives (on average) annually per sport.

Without any shadow of doubt.

Huh…what….Bob, I was just asking for another beer.

I actually just wrote 5 paragraphs explaining why EC should bail on the EIAC and apply for entrance to the Circle City Conference and just now deleted them. It seemed so obvious after writing it that I was embarrassed having written a case for it at all. "Res Ipsa Loquitur"....or somesuch that they mentioned to us back in law school. In any event, if my wonderful 9th grade hoops coach Kim Simonson...and East Central Hall of Famer...and erstwhile EC Principal was still in charge I'd make the Pitch to him myself.

Oh good Lord…..

No.

Congrats to Coach Quintana! Great opportunity. He’ll be missed.

Heh…heh. Arguably likely not your first time, probably just the first time I noticed (and like so many of us - he ain’t what he used to be), but I consider fighting with Muda a certain Baptism here. I can just vaguely recall in those fictional “polite” days DT so pines for, Muda and I raging at each other over 5-6 threads…..which was NOTHING compared to all the other windmills Muda was constantly tilting against on the GID. These days, it’s hard for me to gather up an argument against this fellow sad old libertarian dinosaur as we both lounge and occasionally flop about in the warm tar pit…….Muda humorless as ever. Some things never change.

Probably the MOST (a) accurate, (b) "on point" and (c) humorous post EVER on the GID. A TRIFECTA. Thank you Stax.

First, as to civility, its a grade school girlfriend's sleepover pillowfight these days on the GID as compared to 15-20 years ago. Seriously, are you simply delusional in your senior years or just hoping to pull the wool over the eyes of newbies? The knives were out those days. Some wounds have never quite healed. Second, didn't "kind, sweet and gentle giant" Tim send your sorry @ss packing? That's my recollection...at worst, his co-founders did so just after Tim's death. I don't really care what you say currently. I'm totally cool with that. People say a lot of crap and you are amongst the best. But don't rewrite the past and somehow make yourself out as a hero or respecting Tim and his cofounders. That's Bullsh!t and you know it.

No way. Sooooo many widows and orphans still out there......and souls yet to save.

Never saw that coming.

Oh….I have a pretty fair guess.

It’s funny how quick cycles can turn. I recall Chatard playing Dwenger in 2012 and the game went down very much like the Chatard/Columbus East game this Fall. The Dwenger faithful were lamenting that it was over for Dwenger and they would never be good again. The very next year in 2013 they played within a point of an Olympian team in the State game. An Olympian team that I considered one of the best 5 teams in the State (All Classes). I was expecting East to be back to form next Fall and looked forward to seeing it. Add that I have some real memories from my last visit there…it was the first time I broke 2:00 and I passed out after getting out-leaned at the finish line. The next day I had to take the SAT on about 2 hours sleep. Curious what it would look like all these years later.

Total bummer. I was really looking forward to going to East. The last time I was there was at a track Invitational in HS….just after the glaciers receded.

Bob…it WAS southern Indiana. FYI - Lest anyone get bent out of shape, I’ll put my redneck southeastern Indiana bone fides up against anyone’s.

Again, if grown-ups were in charge in the MIC at least they would have handled the loss with some grace. I find it ironic that those administering sports tell the players to accept a loss with grace and class yet act like petulant 8 year olds when things don’t go their way = as demonstrated by that silly rant of a press release. It just confirms my worst fears as regards who is running our public schools - and public institutions in general.

I probably disagree with your last sentence (though I reserve the right to disagree with both…I generally do disagree with DT as it turns out…though I don’t make an effort to) but I am interested to hear the life lessons your son learned about people that aren’t like him. Honestly, that should be one of the goals of High School sports…maybe the most important one. I learned some of the most enduring life lessons in HS and College sports. Most often good…but not always. My sense is that your son learned a lot of things - important ones. Please share what you think they are. I honestly believe it’s the most important thing about sports outside of the general idea of competition.

Sorry to be the wet blanket but Linemen don’t win it and haven’t since the second award in 1993 to Bo Barzilauskas. Although they often should. Actually PROBABLY should most years. Look, everybody paying attention knew Zack Martin of Chatard (2008 season) was going to start somewhere on Sundays. EVERYBODY. He’s a pretty certain NFL Hall of Fame player at this point and likely the best Indiana football player in the NFL since Rod Woodson. He wasn’t even considered. DIDN’T GET A SNIFF. I think there is a Marion County or Indianapolis Lineman of the Year award given out - he didn’t win that either. I admit schools promote this stuff like the Oscars these days…which bothers me more than a little. I have no horse in this race. I’d love to see a lineman win - but they don’t. Regardless how great they are. Maybe things will change this year, but to be clear, there have been much worse “travesties” as regards recognition of lineman in years past if one fails to win this year.

Momma, more than great to see you back. I’m assuming as an Irish Momma you must have just briefly dropped in from Cannes on the way to your condo in the Maldives. Nonetheless, I disagree. I have no issue with girls playing “boys” sports….especially if they don’t have any alternative. I do have an issue with the opposite, btw…..which, somewhat insanely and beyond all common sense, seems to put me opposed to the NCAA, the IOC and some others who, apparently, run things these days. I admit that am a well-known troglodyte (from proud truck driving redneck stock) but I kind of get a “kick” out of female kickers. See what I did there? Yeah….pretty sad on my part. Point being, if females can do the job and take the lumps, I’m totally down with it - “Just win!”. Regardless, awfully good to see you hanging out with we “growing older by the day” reprobates again….at least momentarily. Hope the kids are doing great as well, btw. Bless you and yours.

Yeah. If unresolved at that time, then things are going to get REALLY interesting around here. Honestly, I admit that speculating what happens if the HCC declines one or both, not that I’d wish it on CG (I’m a long time CG fan from afar) or Carmel, is damned intriguing.