Lysander

I could see them taking down Mooresville certainly but I don’t think they have the horses to handle Roncalli……that said, I ate a lot of crow after the Roncalli/Mt. Vernon game last year. Still consider that a monster upset.

It’s always a great game. As much as I admire Roncalli, I am of the opinion East Central will have to wait until next year for a Roncalli rematch. I think New Pal is likely the team to beat this year in a strong, resurgent 4A.

Outside of the Indy Metro, any Sectional south of I-70 and east of I-65 with East Central as a participant IS by definition an East Central Invitational. They are the dominant team in any class for that quarter of the State - in any class. The almost annual Roncalli/East Central (or Chatard/East Central in those years Roncalli was unavailable) is a great game for Indiana HS football.

Columbia City 25 Norwell 24 Final "Down goes Frazier"

Roncalli 21 East Central 19 Final Turnover laden game with EC having, I believe, 4 turnovers that most likely cost them the game. No question EC is the dominant football team in Southeast and East central (no pun intended) portion of Indiana.

Chatard 16 Cincy Elder 21 Final Elder clinches it with a 1st down on a 4th and 1 with 47 seconds to go.

Chatard 16 Cincy Elder 21 1:49 left in 4th

Chatard 10 Cincy Elder 21 6:51 left in 4th Roncalli. 21 EC. 19 8:53 left in 4th

Chatard 10 Cincy Elder 21 6:51 left in 4th

Roncalli 21 EC 12 :48 Left in 3rd

Roncalli 21 EC 12 :48 Left in 3rd

Roncall 14 EC 12 5:41 left in 3rd

Chatard 10 Cincy Elder 14 3:25 left in 3rd

Roncalli 14 EC 6 Half

Chatard 10 Cincy Elder 7 Half

Roncalli 14 East Central 6 8:45 in 2nd

Chatard 7 Elder 7 6:00 left in 2nd Roncalli 7 East Central 6 9:22 in 2nd

Chatard 35 Terre Haute North 0 Half I don't think North has a single first down

The game was tied 14-14 when Chatard blocked a field goal after a goal line stand with around 2 minutes to go. Afterwards, Chatard was driving (and appeared to have all the momentum) until a fumble turnover following a pass completion near the 50 yd line with around 1:30 to go. Roncalli marched it down within field goal range and won per Gonzo’s comments above. It really was an entertaining game between 2 teams with very different strengths offensively.

CJ, sorry I didn’t catch you at the game but only saw this thread after I returned home. Heartbreaking loss tonight in the last seconds of the game by the Trojans in a defensive battle. Best luck to Roncalli the rest of the season.

Only in alternating weeks.

I’ve said it for years but 4A “was” most years consistently the best class pound for pound. With that, its best teams have generally gone on to consistently be the dominant players in 5A and, on occasion, break into 6A…which has watered down 4A from its prior glory.

I”ll ask the same (apparently idiotic) question I’ve been asking since this whole debate started. Just why can’t the adjustment be made until the end of the two year period (at the end of next year) as it should have been done normally? Why the urgency to make bumps/drops/adjustments a year early? If I were a conspiracy guy I would say that its all because the IHSAA just couldn’t wait to bump Cathedral to 6A and had to validate that decision somehow…..but then I’m no conspiracy guy….. With that, I’m as ticked off as anybody about Chatard getting moved down to 3A. I really thought they could make a deep run in 4A this year….almost certainly next year (if they could have stayed “up”). Still, 3A has been a heckuva class the last few years and, apparently, Chatard is back in it. Looks like only Memorial will have the honor of pulling off the 3A/4A championship run for the time being.

Well….in my 5 paragraph, since deleted, alcohol-driven novelette I addressed those points. In summary, EC needs more competition. They have CLEARLY outgrown the EIAC by almost every measurable. No Cincy conference is likely to offer (you mentioned that). The Circle City only has 4 football and 6(?) schools in total - so really not that much travel…plus a Helluva lot more equivalent competition for EC. Finally, you can still play any and all the familiar local punching bags (Lawrenceburg excluded as regards being a punching bag) if you want….they still need to fill their schedules too. But, overall it would provide the level of overall conference competition EC is sadly lacking with only a couple of 90 minute drives (on average) annually per sport.