Lysander

34 minutes ago, tango said:

Maybe 5 p/p champions?  Would that be a record? Not predicting anything, just making an observation. 

Might want to keep that thought on the down-low, the loonies over on Facebook already have the pitchforks and torches out and are marching in the streets about it.

15 minutes ago, Knight82 said:

What a great game.  Looked like Marian took a few series to understand the speed of Chatard, as the Knights have not played anyone of the caliber of Chatard this season.  But Marian certainly made it a fantastic finish.  The second half was just battling back and forth, but the Knights just couldn't get ahead.  Proud of the effort our boys gave - heartbreaking finish for the Knights.

Classic game.  Marian is a helluva team.  My wife literally couldn't watch the game. 

Kudos to Marian.  

1 minute ago, CaptainHook said:

Roncalli is good...I tied to tell everyone last week.

I've been telling folks that since Week 2.  

13 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said:

I thought Chatard/Marian was going to be the finish of the night. 

It was a nail-biter. 

2 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Don't know if you've been watching much of this, but Webster for Westfield is a beast.

Yep.  Been watching since late 3rd Q. Westfield is just dominating now.

Westfield 41

Merrillville 16

11:52 left in 4th

Westfield 34

Merrillville. 16

1:20 left in 3rd

Merrillville punting from 6 yd line

1 minute ago, gonzoron said:

Webo 35, Mater Dei 7 10:49 4th

Chatard 18, Marian 13 final

Chatard intercepts with 1:30 left.  Marian was driving.

Chatard probably had 450+ yards but just could not shake Marian.  Marian is solid.

Chatard     18

Marian 13

Marian has ball on 50

2;00 minutes

Chatard 18

Marian 13

5:05 left in Game,  Chatard receiving kickoff.

Just now, Staxawax said:

Anyone have a Roncalli/Mooresville update?

Roncalli up 35-14.  11:06 left in 4th

Chatard 18-7.

Missed every EP tonight.

Mid 4th.

Just now, gonzoron said:

No sir. Going to Danville tomorrow. Person I go to see still sidelined due to Covid lingering symptoms. Lung issues.

Sorry to hear that.

1 minute ago, gonzoron said:

Hamilton Heights Lady Huskies 48, Lebanon Lady Tigers 43 final. 

Ooops, wrong website!!!

Are you at the hoops game?

Roncalli.  28

Mooresville. 14

Half

Chatard.   12

Marian.       7

Half

Chatard.  13

Marian.     7

3:00 left in 2nd.  

Chatard 12-0

blocked EP

Chatard 6

Marian.  0

72 yd TD run by QB. Missed EP

1 hour ago, George Orwell 2 said:

Lysander and some others may remember a dissertation I posted a few years ago on the impossibility of identifying endogenous and exogenous characteristics with respect to high school football.  For everyone's benefit, I will not repeat it here.   

Many of us recall it.

9 hours ago, George Orwell 2 said:

Thank you, Lysander.  I appreciate the sentiment and if it weren't for one unfortunate fact, I would do just that.  But . . . well, you know . . . I'm dead.  Sooooo . . . . . . yeah.  

Yes.  That “dead” thing can tend to get in the way.

But at least you can still vote......

My guess is that the percentage of boys playing football gets higher the smaller the school size......just a guess.

Chatard would be roughly 35% based on a quick calculation.

Hmmmm.....I tried to stir the pot just a little and we end up doing transcendental meditation.

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4 hours ago, Bobref said:

I hope it works out this way. It will be grist for the GID mill for months to come.

Years even....

2 hours ago, Esso Ayche said:

I 100% agree that the sample size is too small to get a full, meaningful grasp.  Without a doubt.  For me it was a starting point (10 year sample size) to get my head better wrapped around the conversations, and that three year window just happened to fit into it.  I would someday like to jump back another decade or two (or three?) to pick up a bigger representation across the board.  It was very interesting for me to dig into the numbers/results and, truthfully, see who these teams were losing to.  It is one thing to see who is winning, but I find it much more interesting to see who was on the cusp of winning.  So many great teams that just get stuck behind a juggernaut of a team/program and can't break through that ceiling.

Like you said, I'm sure there a lot of sectionals that have zero PPs, and many with multiple... that would be an interesting secondary, parallel study to see how many PPs are in the average "non-zero" PP sectionals... and how they collectively fare compared to those that don't have other PPs down the line until regionals or semi-state.  28 comes to mind as a heavy PP sectional.  I'm certain there are many others.

Still, I find that three year window (no matter how fortuitous to my sample) to be a very fascinating snap shot, whether it was PPs or publics doing that work.  Three years, four schools, twelve titles.  Amazing.  Across 50 states, I'd be interested if there have been comparative three year dynasties across four classes of football like that.  I'd bet not, but honestly I don't keep up with much beyond SWI... and barely that!

I appreciate the constructive feedback, for certain.  I knew going into it that there was not nearly enough information in the greater scheme of things to come to any meaningful "conclusion" in the overall conversation.  I know without a doubt there are a huge number on here who know this topic (and all the gory details) inside and out, but I found some of these numbers (sample size be damned!) too compelling not to share for those that might not have been around in those days (I can't be the ONLY transplant, can I??). Plus, it got me out of putting up Christmas decorations with my wife... because from across the room all spreadsheets look like real work!! (And honestly, who puts up Christmas decorations before Thanksgiving??)

Perhaps you and “George Orwell”  might best offer your skills to the IHSAA.

1 minute ago, Yuccaguy said:

And I must apologize Lysander....   The "board" of the IHSAA made a change in the summer that extended the 'Mercy Rule' to the Semi-State that most officials did not receive an update on on until the past week....go figure!  

So this week (because of advertisers) will be the last week of the "Mercy Rule".....

I’m no “rat”.  I don’t give up friends.

More seriously, best wishes!