Lysander

Public Service Announcement.....leave the wives and girlfriends at home Friday night....if you want them to return.

I’ll be sporting furs.

I stand corrected. Monster upset......literally tournament changing. Honestly, just never thought a Zionsville team could pull off that type of upset.

I don’t agree it’s lackluster (I enjoy the tournament like kids enjoy Christmas - just because it exists) but I do generally agree about your other points. It would certainly be refreshing to see a State Champion in the top 2 classes come out of North Central or Northwest Indiana (and I don’t mean this as a “dig”, I am serious). Ft. Wayne has already represented well for Northeast Indiana. That said, enjoy Florida. I am digging out of snow.

I’ll make sure to wear my chaps underneath my layers.

Semistate: New Prairie v. East Noble Roncalli v.Memorial State: New Prairie v. Memorial Champion: Dunno

Most things in general about Chatard are unchanged except the offense which is probably 50/50 Run/Pass vs 100% run. If you’ve never seen Chatard its always started with great line play (offense and defense). They will block all the way down the field and through the “penumbra” of the whistle (Bobref might get a kick out of that description). Great line play but doesn’t mean they will all be huge, Solid skill players. Their feature back and receiver are extraordinary. Really good defense that pursues and tackles in a gang. Again, not huge. Great special teams. At the top of their game, they are a lot of fun to watch on both offense and defense. They will generally leave some bumps and bruises.

That was DT’s list of traits/values associated with the “P/P mentality”......NOT the type of kids that go to a P/P. With the exception of his mention of faith/religion (possibly including it), his “P/P mentality” list could be applied to a bunch of solid public programs (New Pal, East Central, CE, Lawrenceburg, HH, GS, SR.........I could go on and on) that show up every year at this time of the year. Its nothing more than the traditional values/traits we have historically attributed to any great program in any sport. It’s not isolated solely to P/Ps (if it is, then HS sports is in a world of hurt). I didn’t call out DT at the time even I thought it was a BS distinction and an insult to good public programs. Where is DT anyway? Figured this would be catnip to him.

Ok. Cool. I’m down with that.

GO, I read this back when you originally posted it and in rereading it again, it remains probably the most thoughtful post I have ever seen on the matter.

Honestly, it’s time to fess up. You’re some kid at Chatard bored in computer class (don’t know if they actually have a computer class at Chatard since that would cost $$....maybe a Cathedral kid, then) having some fun at my expense. Seriously, time to be honest.

Oops, sorry....definitely too subtle for me. That said, I DO think there are advantages though, I have always admitted that. As George Orwell here has pointed out, the Success Factor has kind of tamped down all of those old conversations/discussions.

Hell yes! I’ve always said there are advantages. Just not the ones generally cited. Many of the advantages are the same as you would have found 30-40 years ago in small town schools. Changing times have, to a degree, left us with the P/Ps as analogues of those small towns. Multi-generational kids (good athletes go to college, return “home” and the next generation starts all over), involved parents who keep an eye and their kids...and yours, community and generational pride, respect for coaches, etc. Part of the reason I respect places like HH and GS is because they fit that very model....but even then it’s hard because so many kids once they leave home just don’t come back. In my case, I never went back because there wasn’t much work for gigolos in Franklin County.

You truly have a gift. Nicely stated.

I expect a good game. BTW, that 2016 Concordia team was a monster and doesn’t get enough credit historically. It embarrassed a lot of quality 3A teams.

I have a lot tied up in vehicles. (the picture that keeps on giving......)

I may have to put this up for a car vote on the way. Either way, I am appreciative of all the recommendations.

Suggest you get that “tailgate” invite. Once there, be sure to hold your pinkie finger out after you fill up at the champagne fountain. Talk about your home on Geist a lot........and your vacation place on Sanibel. Gotta bring up Sanibel.... You’ll fit right in (these tips work at HSE gatherings also). Feel free to PM me for any other social tips.

$400/hour for consulting. Gotta pay that tuition.

Even worse......Metamora. I had to sneak into the Ville before the sun came up.

Nice job there.

Every other year in HS football, I would be on the field in Greyhound green and white to receive a Tiger butt-kicking. Even so, it’s a special place. Dick Meador was prowling the sidelines then rather than being the namesake. Two great traditions playing at a classic venue.this weekend. Saturday, huh? I may have to ask my better half permission to attend. She used to be on the sidelines back in those days, as well, in her green and white Greyhound cheerleader uniform. Back in the Jurassic era.

A word of advice to Mooresville. For the love of God and all that is holy, don’t, DON’T drive down to Enlow and play on a Friday!

All the above suggested options sound good (Thanks guys) but, honestly, if I can get great breaded tenderloin AND a bowl of good chili then I’m probably sold. So how’s the chili at the Acme?