Lysander

Not only that, the whole South bracket is HUGELY lopsided. I absolutely believe there was method to the madness but it had nothing to do with competitive balance.

I totally agree with you. I also think that whatever Noblesville does, it needs to go a different direction - like CG has with their offense.

That’s my point. Center Grove’s success is built into their system - it is organic.....although it was a coaching and administrative decision to go that path originally. CG competes at the highest level each and every year against schools that are multiples of their size. That aside, simply attributing New Pal’s success to one player sells them short. A great coach came along roughly 7 years ago and built a hugely successful program up almost overnight. I don’t doubt for a second that he would have found a way to win these last few years without a great RB. But there lies the difference - New Pal has a brilliant coach that harnessed existing talent.

Explain 3A then.

Errrr......do you mean like Center Grove does.....every year? If you are looking for a “model” it’s been staring at us for some years.

Sad to say, but most years those teams listed aren’t even competitive enough to contend for a 3A title. It’s really hard for the remaining schools to get too bent out of shape regarding their travails. You mentioned Castle earlier. Castle can’t even win the SIAC where they are the only 5A school. Dissecting and re-dissecting 6A until you give out 32 trophies isn’t the cure.

5A was incorrectly established for this very purpose. Yet, who has absolutely “OWNED” 5A? 4A schools. The problem isn’t so much size as it is tradition with almost all of the 5A schools (excepting Snider).....which many of us stated would be the case at the time. Make classes 2A - 5A 64 team classes and 1A a 32 team class.

It was literally a contingency of my wife’s acceptance of my marriage proposal some 32 years ago.....along with having to ask her dad. It was not something I had even considered at the time but was critical to her. As it turned out, it has become a center point of our lives in every possible way. A very happy accident for me. Sports was never, ever a consideration.

Agreed. It’s just built into the entire relationship. Very active parents that hold their kids feet to the fire who are generally deferential to coaches and admins.

Really have to respect what Memorial has done, though.....P/P or otherwise. It seems they literally cobbled together a State Championship run from play to play starting the first Friday in Sectionals. Amazing stuff. I cannot give them enough credit.

I’m still hoping you can find those toilet seat horseshoes from back in the day (it’s been 9 years, Bro....damn.......unbelievable.) Sadly, John Deere Grandma and Grandpa have passed since then. Hell.........not so sure about myself these days.

Heck, they forgave him (and Lorenzano) for being Cathedral guys. Dick is a perennial speaker at Chatard events or broadcast games. BTW, he covered the Hamilton Heights/Chatard Regional in 2010. I’ll never forget that day since our home was robbed the morning of the game.

CalPreps (which I think ends up becoming MaxPreps) has the following overall ranking: 1. New Palestine 2. Carmel 3. Bishop Chatard 4. Cathedral 5. Avon I’m down with that. Funny factoid. The Chatard Seniors played the New Pal Seniors as Freshmen. Chatard also played Avon in scrimmage this year. The only team Chatard has NOT played (scrimmage or prior years)as far as I know is Carmel.

Well....there is that as well. That said, I am “privileged” per DT’s declaration on the vacated Roncalli page and any thought I might ever have is clearly suspect. Guess that wooden, outdoor, dugout “sh!tter” in elementary school in Metamora, Indiana I had to use somehow disqualifies me as privileged simply because I could later send my kids to a private school I could afford to pay for.....and have indoor plumbing. Go figure...

First - Can’t be fixed unless you continue to keep carving it down until every big school is a winner...............errr....yeah rah! Despite the fun that many of us might have (me included) as regards declarations of Carmel “softness”, the reality is that outside of certain “trades” (I used the blue collar “word” just to piss off uppity Carmel folks), a ton of folks who have migrated to Carmel came from hard-scrabble, tough minded-beginnings. Their parents were often the successful first generation college competitors who came from small towns and ended up in Carmel. Their kids will be tough and competitive as well. Though I love the “soft” stereotype.....I’ll push it to HSE and Zionsville. Among the uppity ritzy schools one lives to hate.

Congrats to your son. It’s a special thing.

Your a good dude....always known that.

Geeez....... @Gipper thought you were into kidding around until I saw your downtick...let me try a limerick then.....”There once was a girl from Nantucket......” Since the thread is fundamentally moronic, I assumed matching humor would be much more worthwhile.

“Ouch!” Congrats to the Tigers! Incredible season and well deserved 4A Championship. You guys will ALWAYS be the first from 3A to have done it.

No cannibalism recipes, please.

Thanks for the gracious invite @tango but after 3 days on the road, I’m taking a little down time. Good luck to your kids today. I’ll be watching. Go Tigers!

Happy Thanksgiving.....and in Memoriam....

Errrrr........those privates like Columbus East and New Palestine?

Among the most loathsome things I have ever seen written here. Please crawl back into whatever hate filled little hole you slimed up from.