Footballking16

How do you figure? Until Notre Dame supplants one of those schools, they will remain a tier behind. Scoreboard is the name of the game.

It's not already been done lol. Until Notre Dame can prove ON the field they belong, they will always be second tier to Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson. Look at the outcomes of the games against these three schools when Notre Dame has played them the last 10-15 years. It's boys against men. A few 4 and 5* athletes doesn't change that.

Because I have zero affiliation with Notre Dame or South Bend and grew up an Indiana fan while also attending Indiana University.

If you want me to say OSU pays their players, I won't because I cannot verify or confirm that. I will say that OSU's success at the national level speaks for itself and is their greatest recruiting tool. That and the shear number of players they put into the NFL. They have a huge advantage over Notre Dame in that regard. Clemson recruits very well regionally (Georgia/SC/NC) and has started recruiting at an elite level nationally. Auburn pulls in some very good talent and we would be the best teams in a lot of states if they weren't located in Alabama.

I think it's fair to say those 3 schools have a monopoly and their pick of the litter for the best yearly talent.

That's the $10mil dollar question. IF I, or anyone else knew, Notre Dame would be there. I don't believe its coaching as Brian Kelly has done about as well as he can do. But there is a noticeable difference when ND takes the field against a Clemson or an Alabama.

I agree that IU needs a bowl victory in some fashion to back up their recent progress, but at the end of the day I don't think it takes away from the great lengths and progress Tom Allen has made. No longer is IU a program where simply making a bowl is a pipe dream and simply being competitive is accepted. IU has the coaching, and more importantly talent to be a consistent 7-8 game winner in the B10.

Notre Dame fans will tell you admission standards and to a degree they are correct as Notre Dame doesn't have the "win at all cost mentality", but honestly not sure at this point what can be done to bridge the gap. Bobref may be on to something about NIL creating more parity but even then have doubts as to what lengths Notre Dame will go to to once again become a title contender.

Well of course, but I'm not a fan of Notre Dame so don't really care either way. But what I've seen from Notre Dame the last two decades in big time games against the country's best in no way resembles a program that is on the verge of breaking through. As I said, a few 4 or 5* athletes doesn't change that. Notre Dame has been physically outclassed by the Clemson's, the Alabama's, and the Ohio State's of the world for the last several years.

Notre Dame is a very good football program and rightfully is in that second tier of teams behind Bama, Clemson, and OSU. But they are light years behind those programs. A couple 4 or 5 athletes doesn't push the needle for me.

Is there a law that states a university HAS to offer scholarship-based sports? I don’t believe there is, only that they have to offer equal representation between men and women. If you’re a mid-major D1 or D2/D3 school without a football program, you’re screwed. These entire athletic departments are funded on revenue generated from the NCAA tournament. Why does the B10 or the SEC need the NCAA going forward? The NCAA exists, or existed, to regulate amateur athletics. Now that amateurism has gone by the wayside, it’s existence to the P5 conferences is meaningless. What is stopping the P5 schools from breaking off, negotiating their own TV contracts, and keeping more of the pie to themselves?

Title IX sports (and the rest of the men’s sports) are funded entirely by P5 basketball and football programs almost exclusively through TV deals stemming from the NCAA Tournament and College Football Playoffs. The NCAA model is now broken and will no longer exist a few years down the road. You’ll see P5 conferences split into their own leagues and universities will adopt club models for the rest of their sports programs.

Don't really like where NIL is going but have to blame the NCAA for it getting to this point. 10-15 years ago the NCAA should have adopted a policy that allowed schools to pay the players in the revenue generating sports some type of monthly/yearly stipend. Paying 85 scholarship football players and an additional 13 basketball scholarship players 25-30k a year on top of a free education is really is chump change if you think about it.

Let's pump the brakes.

lol

New Pal wasn't quite there yet, but Lowell, Dwenger, and Evansville Reitz were all very strong 4A programs right up to the time the SF was implemented so your point is well received. Mishawaka avoided a very strong northern half of the bracket when the IHSAA went to 6 classes.

Since the SF was implemented 3A has been a stronger class than 4A by a mile. Don't think anyone can argue otherwise. 4A is as watered down as it gets. Never said that. But my point still remains. 4A was stronger than 5A when the IHSAA implemented a 6th class and before the SF had run its first cycle. I see nothing noble about playing lesser competition. Neither does Chatard.

I'm not sure defending is the right word, more like putting you in your place. Chatard will play anybody, anywhere, anytime and a lot of times beat you. Has been that way for at least two decades. There's zero advantage or gain for Chatard to petition to remain in 4A when they face stiffer competition in the 3A tournament than they would in 4A in most years.

Mishawka petitioned to remain in 5A as the SF had not run its full cycle and 5A was watered down due to the IHSAA implementing a 6th class. The route to a state final in 5A was easier than in 4A. Nothing noble about it. Due to the SF, 4A has consistently been the "weakest" class top to bottom as many traditional powers (Cathedral and Dwenger) are playing up a class, sometimes two, as has newcomer New Palestine from their true classification. Chatard's path to a state title last year was much tougher than Roncalli's, not to mention the 3A champ beat the 4A champ by 3 TD's earlier in the year. Irrelevant really. Chatard will play more P/P's in the state tournament as a 3A school (and better ones) than they would in 4A, especially with Roncalli bumping up a class.

Don't think he committed to Tennessee to play wideout. Also not sure he's fast enough to play wideout.

Huepel's not going to get a very long honeymoon in Knoxville. Jeremy Pruitt lasted 3 years, Butch Jones lasted 5 years (and was spared due to a couple 9 win seasons), and Dooley before them lasted 3 years. As "prized" as Curry may be, Huepel isn't going to just hand the reigns over to a true freshman QB in win now mode because he delivered a recruit who likely isn't to make a major impact until his upperclassmen years.

You already know it’s going to be the first round game.

Chatard beat Roncalli soundly last year.

Firm believer of defense wins championships. CG as stout as I've seen in a long, long time.

Already linked it dude. An entire thread full of your nonsense in there.