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1 minute ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Point,
IF YOUR TEAM AND COMMUNITY BELIEVE IN THE SYSTEM IN PLACE, YOU CAN HAVE SUCCESS in 2019 just as well as in 2009, 1999, 1989
Why is it that Russ Radke has success?
Why is it that Bart Curtis took Warsaw to their 1st sectional championship in school history in year 2?
Why cannot that be duplicated at Noblesville?
Did I ever say it couldn't be successful?
All I said is that running a gimmick offense that doesn't translate to the next level, namely D1, could potentially be a turnoff to some. Noblesville is a still growing community with 3,000+ students. It's the 11th largest high school in the state. I don't buy for a minute that there isn't D1 talent or athleticism in that school to where some type of spread or modern offense couldn't be incorporated.
I wish Coach Sharpe the best.
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1 minute ago, DT said:
Sharpe's offense is not gimmicky. Its straight ahead power football.
Going to be awful tough catching up to teams down 3 TDs in the first half running power football.
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3 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Last time the Millers had a winning record was 2001
Simmons Spread
Schieb spread
They are qualified offensive minded coaches
It is ok to be different. Different can work
Kevin Wright ran flexbone at Warren Central, I think that turned out ok, why didn't he get in all shotgun spread ?????
Because Kevin Wright hasn't coached Warren Central in 15 years.....
You want to take a guess at what kind of offense Kevin Wright ran at IMG these last few years?
What's your point.
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4 minutes ago, MICFan34 said:
No... They ran the spread under Simmons and then I-Formation, power run game with Roden. If those two coaches couldn't get it done with a "normal" offense, then I think a "gimmick" offense would fit Noblesville best.
Guess this will be something to track in the coming seasons.
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4 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Which begs the question: Isn't the goal to win games for the school and not turn out D1 athletes??
Couldn't you spin that to also mean running an offense that best fits your personnel gives you the best chance to win? You aren't going to convince me that a school with 3,000 kids can't run some type of modern offense.
9 minutes ago, Knightmare said:Well, I mean, c'mon. Cathedral has WAY better athletes at skill positions than Noblesville. Makes sense to run spread and throw the ball around when you have better athletes. Noblesville does not have those types of kids.
I mean are you telling me that a suburban high school in Indianapolis with 3,000 kids doesn't have the ability to run something other than a gimmick offense?
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Just now, FastpacedO said:
I think Coach Sharpe is well aware he may have to adapt according to what personnel he has in that particular year. It is not impossible to pass out of the T Formation or motion etc the play book can really open up.
I remember a couple of years even your Irish ran some T Formation. I believe they even hit a TD pass out of it in a State Championship game maybe 2006 vs Concord? I'm not positive which one, I'll have to research.
I remember very well, was on that team. We ran a lot of power formations that year (my junior year) and my senior year we ended up running a bunch of shotgun and Cathedral has ever since. And it's paid dividends. You're seeing more and more D1 caliber QBs coming to Cathedral because Cathedral finally opened up their playbook.
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1 minute ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Purdue just signed a 4 star QB out of New Jersey
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/michael-alaimo/kmw7wHGLEea-8KA2nzwbTA/football/stats.htm
Brohm in his presser made mention to the fact that do not let the stats fool you, he plays in a great tough conference and his HS teams win and he is a big part of the reason but not because he is throwing 40 times a game.
Speaking of running offenses and big schools: This guy does pretty good out in California, just won a state title, their old conference kicked them out a year earlier and bumped them into De La Salle's conference.
https://www.coachtimmurphy.com/#/
This is where we got out double tight single wing 86% run offense as well.
Ok I'm not saying there aren't exceptions to the rule, simply said it may be a turn off to certain players. If you're an 8th grader living in Noblesville and aspire to play QB at the next level and you have schools like Cathedral and Guerin running a spread offense it may appeal more to you. Being in the largest metropolitan area in the state, you have multiple options as to where attend high school.
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9 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:
Colleges and universities should dictate what offense and defense a high school should run?
No. Never said that.
9 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:Colleges and universities will find you if you are good enough to play at the next level.
Agree, although it's tough to gauge how good a QB is handing off 50 times a game.
9 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:Also, if a certain style of football turns away potential players, do they really love playing the game? Are those the type of players a coach would want?
Non-sequitur. If I'm a 6'3 200 lb kid with a lively arm living in Noblesville and my local high school runs a misdirection, power offense and I have aspirations of playing at the next level, how does that help me get there? Why wouldn't I go play at Guerin, Cathedral, Chatard, or take advantage of open enrollment and go play at a neighboring county school who throws the ball all around the field?
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1 hour ago, Knightmare said:
You would have a really hard time convincing me Noblesville has the athletes to line up in spread, and throw it all over the place and run by people. If they had those athletes, their record the last few years would reflect that. Running an unconventional offense with misdirection will offset the lack of great athletes and dominate offensive linemen, because they are NOT a "run it down your throat" offense. In games Noblesville has won the last two years, they have scored 20, 21, 10, 10, and 21 points. Complementary football would be their best friend, which is why his offense is a GREAT fit.
Having a good QB makes his offense that more dangerous because they can throw the ball as well, so pick your poison. Great WRs are also great athletes, so giving them the football makes sense, no matter how they get the ball. As far as no blocking TEs, I'm sure they can convert LBs to TEs or just use more offensive linemen.
Get what you're saying, but Noblesville is a massive school district. If Fishers and HSE can run the spread, why can't Noblesville? I just think an unconventional offense like that MAY be a turn off to some as it doesn't really translate to the next level.
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18 minutes ago, Knightmare said:
Steele is MUCH better than Spegal. What Steele has done in the MIC should be weighted much higher than what Spegal has done in the HHC, and that competition will transfer well to college. I think being hurt his Junior year actually HELPS Steele because who knows how beat up he would be after the CG state run.
What Spegal has done at New Pal is great, but Steele is the better RB. I think D1 teams are hesitant to offer Steele because his workload has been crazy at CG, and they are worried about his long-term health.
got my popcorn ready.......
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3 minutes ago, gonzoron said:
Why don't you start your own site?
He tried to...
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10 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:
Bottom line, he was barely .500 during his last tenure at Rutgers and that was before they were a member of the Big 10.
And it's no coincidence his teams got better in the Big East once teams like Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College were replaced with the likes of South Florida, UConn, and Cincinnati.
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5 minutes ago, DT said:
There is not much gap between the Bottom 5 (RU/IU/UI/PU/NW) in terms of composite roster rank. They are all battling for the title of Tallest Midget.
Not disagreeing, still more talent than NW and Illinois though.
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3 minutes ago, itiswhatitis said:
Gee I wonder who they'll hire for the new AD?
Chris Reynolds (former PG under Knight) who is Bradley's current AD is my preference but I think they'll take a strong look at Pat Kraft from Temple. IU alum who was previous assistant AD at Indiana a few years back. He seems more qualified than Reynolds.
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4 minutes ago, DT said:
We will have to look at the 2020 composite rankings when they are available. You must be anticipating big changes
I know for sure Illinois' composite is skewed because they added a bunch of grad transfers who will no longer be on next years team.
Northwestern's lone 5* was QB Hunter Johnson who was benched halfway through the year and looks to be in completely over his head.
Illinois and Northwestern lose a ton to graduation while Purdue brings back just about all of it's talent who were either true freshman or sophomores. On paper Purdue will have a more talented roster than either Ill or NW if we're strictly looking at HS recruiting rankings, that's a given. But it's still young talent. Not going to win many places when your most talented players are freshman and sophomores.
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8 minutes ago, DT said:
Im jaded
LOL
Maybe.
But that isn't why Glass is retiring.
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4 minutes ago, DT said:
Both IL and NW have more talent than PU according to the composite rankings.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/?Conference=Big-Ten
That was for this year. Purdue's recruiting classes from 15, 16. and 17 were atrocious.
Purdue had better and more highly ranked recruiting classes in 2018, 2019, and this incoming 2020 class than both Illinois and Northwestern.
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5 minutes ago, DT said:
I just dont feel that IU is that far ahead of either.
Maybe not in terms of talent, but IU has
-much more continuity
-depth and experience
-momentum
and the gap is widening.
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32 minutes ago, DT said:
If I were picking today, and based on the roster prognosis outlined in this thread, I would take PU 7th in the west for the 2020 season.
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Nebraska
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Could certainly see it happening, but Illinois doesn't have near the talent that Purdue has and neither does Northwestern. Been underwhelmed with Frost.
Purdue is certainly young and I think that may be there downfall for next year, especially if they can't get healthy, but their roster isn't the worst in the West.
4 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:So in theory, SHORTER, transfers, sits out a year and as a RS JR, he is eligible to be playing for Purdue when Bell is a true JR with Milton Wright and RS SR Amad Anderson to go along with RS SOPH TJ SHEFFIELD and perhaps Mershawn Rice who would be RS SOPH as well. Along with whoever else they bring in.
That is of course if Shorter can get one of the exclusive NCAA Waivers for immediate eligibility
Is Shorter committed to Purdue or even a Purdue lean? Am I missing something other than he would be a really good pick up for wherever he lands?
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11 minutes ago, DT said:
I think they did what they had to do. But there is just as good a chance it will go bad as it will go well. Im concerned about Rutgers and Maryland. Im a huge believer in Schiano and expect him to have quick success. maryland is full of talent, they are just poorly coached and the program has had many setbacks. They will get that fixed. Im not convinced that what Allen has done is sustainable. History says it is not. 7 years is a long commitment. But it also shows total faith in the current direction.
It'll be 2-3 years minimum before Rutgers is even competitive. Their roster is HORRID and that isn't going to change overnight.
Maryland like Rutgers will continue to struggle trying to compete against teams outside their recruiting base.
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45 minutes ago, DT said:
Glass probably doesn't want to be around when the reality of the $28M he committed to Allen becomes a huge burden to the University, especially when IU slips back to 6-6, 5-7 type seasons.
Didn't you just advocate that you were in favor of Allen's extension?
What's the alternative? Let him walk, hire an unknown and pay him $2-3mil a year and watch them win 4 and 5 games for eternity?
Can't have it both ways.
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3 minutes ago, DT said:
Where is Purdue if Bell, Karlaftis and Moore all go pro after next season?
Moore is the only player draft eligible.
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9 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Plummer can extend with his Feet, however in game reps this past year, he struggled with getting the ball out on time consistently and reading B10 defenses, however, some of that was expected being a RS FROSH in the b10.
Passing Rushing Rk Date School Opponent Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD 7 Games 145 242 59.9 1605 11 8 124.0 62 56 0.9 0 1 2019-09-14 Purdue Texas Christian L 13 29 44.8 181 1 2 94.8 7 -4 -0.6 0 2 2019-09-28 Purdue Minnesota L 23 41 56.1 245 2 2 112.6 8 29 3.6 0 3 2019-10-05 Purdue @ Penn State L 13 27 48.1 119 1 0 97.4 14 -65 -4.6 0 4 2019-10-12 Purdue Maryland W 33 41 80.5 420 3 0 190.7 5 13 2.6 0 5 2019-10-19 Purdue @ Iowa L 30 50 60.0 327 2 1 124.1 7 4 0.6 0 6 2019-10-26 Purdue Illinois L 8 20 40.0 71 0 1 59.8 9 18 2.0 0 7 2019-11-02 Purdue Nebraska W 25 34 73.5 242 2 2 141.0 12 61 5.1 0 O'Connell gets the ball out on time with some serious zip, however, he lacks some movement with his feet that Plummer has an advantage on.
Passing Rushing Rk Date School Opponent Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD 6 Games 1 2019-10-05 Purdue @ Penn State L 1 1 100.0 4 0 0 133.6 0 0 0 2 2019-10-26 Purdue Illinois L 7 13 53.8 65 1 0 121.2 1 2 2.0 0 3 2019-11-02 Purdue Nebraska W 6 7 85.7 62 0 0 160.1 1 1 1.0 0 4 2019-11-09 Purdue @ Northwestern W 34 50 68.0 271 2 2 118.7 5 4 0.8 0 5 2019-11-23 Purdue @ Wisconsin L 26 43 60.5 289 2 1 127.6 5 -10 -2.0 0 6 2019-11-30 Purdue Indiana L 28 49 57.1 408 3 1 143.2 3 -6 -2.0 0 Is the transfer in that Tweet Shorter? Has he committed to Purdue or seriously considering them? Unless he receives a waiver, doubt he ever gets the chance to play with Rondale as I think Rondale is gone after this year.
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12 minutes ago, DT said:
Noted
I misread your previous post. So Plummer is the heir apparent ? Is OConnell a walkon?
I'm guessing Plummer is the more "talented" of the two based on his recruiting ranking but O'Connell has been there the longest, and while he's technically a walk-on he looked anything but in the few times I saw him. Throws a very good ball. Decision making wasn't great but again I'm guessing that has a lot to do with starting the year as a 4th string QB. Give him reps at the 1 for a full spring and he could end up being pretty good. Plummer likely won't be healthy for spring ball.
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Noblesville HC
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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They do, most them being OL/DL. Center Grove has a phenomenal strength and conditioning program.
what are you asking?
What do you consider it? Tight splits, misdirection, all attempts at deception. It's different from the norm, to stand out. Look up the definition of gimmick.
I can't answer that, I don't follow Noblesville closely enough.
I would say so but that's not necessarily a bad thing.