Footballking16

I might be ready to put Illinois ahead of Penn State. Can’t help but to think where Illinois would be ranked today had they not tripped out of the gate to IU of all teams.

Two very good teams, agree with that. Kokomo could make some noise with Bidunga as well. Do you know if Cathedral and BD are scheduled to play again in the regular season?

Xavier Booker has exploded since that first meeting and will be the difference maker in my opinion. Irish return 3-4 other D1 kids as well.

Under my proposal, the field is cut in half AFTER the conclusion of the regular season. In a system that uses a computer ranking formulating W-L record, opp W-L record, SOS, and opponent SOS, no team is mathematically eliminated until the conclusion of the regular season. This kills the argument so many use about teams mailing it in after they start the year 0-3 or 0-4.

Agreed but still believe Cathedral is the heavy favorite unless Tibbs doesn’t play.

Not defending champ Cathedral who has the #1 rated recruit in the country?

I don’t think the MIC is near the gauntlet it used to be. It’d be one thing if CG and Carmel were still around but they aren’t. And no I don’t think New Pal would run roughshod like they do in their current conference but they could more than hold their own. Believe Pike, NC, LN, and LC all have a few guys who go both ways.

How many kids from New Pal play both ways? How many do it out of necessity? New Pal playing a MIC schedule and then turning around and playing in the 4A tournament isn’t the gauntlet you think.

I disagree given current trends and trajectory. Over the next 10 years I’d see NP success rate over current MIC teams as follows: NC 90% Pike 80% LC 60-70% LN 60-70% Warren 50% BD 30-40%

I don’t disagree at all that in an all-in format that appropriately seeds team 1-8 and 1-4 that the first week of the postseason serves as a qualifier. There’s enough data out there that suggests top half Sagarin teams don’t lose to bottom half Sagarin teams and a format that seeds the sectionals accordingly will serve as a de facto qualifier. And if/wgen that happens, hopefully it completely changes the outlook for those who favor the all-in. The current format theoretically gives every team a “chance” to win due to the blind draw. Teams with terrible regular seasons can draw other teams with regular seasons and in some cases be put in the same half of the bracket as two other teams with terrible regular seasons. Everyone on this board knew there was a mathematical certainty that one of West Vigo, Princeton, Washington, or Pike Central would be playing for a sectional championship due to the blind draw. Its scenarios like this why people favor the all-in. In an all-in format that effectively seeds teams 1-8, this scenario effectively ends the second the ball is kicked off in the opening round. Pike Central is losing to a team like Owen Valley by 60 points. In the event the all-in is kept but seeding is properly introduced, the former outlook that everyone has a chance (like they did under the blind draw) immediately evaporates. The next reasonable outlook then becomes, “why are these first round games even happening”? The IHSAA does not want this and that is why seeding will never occur. It’s a precursor to a qualifier. But until seeding happens, you’ll still have a large sect of followers that still believe Cinderella is a real thing.

I think New Pal would more than hold their own. They would have been head over heels better than anybody not named Ben Davis this year.

I’d get New Pal on the horn stat. Maybe Whiteland.

Hopefully just a more competitive state tournament that rewards and takes into account regular season success. I know, I know, wishful thinking on my part.

If that sectional was seeded appropriately, there would have been 4 second half running clocks in the first round. Cut those teams out completely and you have a highly competitive sectional featuring the 4 top half teams.

You seed it then after a few years there’s no other logical choice but to cut the field in half. Appropriate seeding is step 1 to an eventual qualifier. That’s why the IHSAA hasn’t enacted it.

IU’s staff will be turned over here sooner than later and should be available. Hell Tom Allen probably has a job then if he wants it.

LC (12) and LN (13) both would have been in a playoff qualifier using Sagarin that effectively cut the field in half at the conclusion of the regular season. Thanks again for contributing.

Survive and advance right? About the only good thing to come out of last night. Cathedral’s defense needs to figure it out quick or this season is not for long. On another note, LN may need to be put on notice for next year. Believe I heard 4/5 of their offensive lineman were only sophomores who more than held their own against a Cathedral DL with two D1 commits. Couple skill position guys are back next year and I thought LN’s QB was the best player on the field last night by far. He’s only a junior. I see a little Reese Taylor in him.

Carmel and Center Grove are synonymous with suburb. They no longer play in the MIC.

Again, the higher the profile game, the higher level of competition I prefer to see. I don’t see what the problem with that is?

That’s an all-time quote. And that wasn’t sour grapes either which should ring louder as his team won by 4 TDs, it’s just common sense.

Carmel and Center Grove no longer play in the MIC. You probably could have written this the second they were booted. Still need to see the HCC actually win a 6A title before I’m ready to pop bottles. A state title win would finally put a dent in the MIC’s 9-0 immaculate record in state championship games.

Carmel and CG’s removal from the MIC accelerated this by 5 or so years. Still need to see the HCC win a 6A title before I’m ready to dance on the MIC’s grave. That being said, I have no issue saying a Carmel-less and Center Grove-less MIC is now behind the HCC. That’s not really any Earth shattering revelation. And on a side note, when do heads start to roll at Carmel? One of the most disappointing football programs in the state the last few seasons.

A sectional championship barn burner between GS and OV sounds a hell of a lot better than an OV-Pike Central second half running clock, but that’s just me I guess.

In a format that not only allowed 4 of the 7 worst teams in 3A to “make” the tournament, but pitted all four of them on the same side of the bracket, there was always going to be that feeling for one of those schools and communities. It’s the de facto result of a broken tournament.